Any suggestions on how to deal with Verizon on this issue?

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:16:38 GMT, USENET READER
<[email protected]> wrote:

>By asking for extended warranty coverage before the warranty runs out,
>you mean I don't have to ask for it when I first buy the phone? So I
>can forgo this coverage until just before the warranty runs out?

Precisely. What's the point in paying for extended warranty coverage
while the original manufacturer's warranty is still in effect? This
coverage is provided by VZW. It is not the same thing as the
insurance you can buy. So yes, wait until your 11th month of
ownership before signing up.

>Another question - my billing cycle starts on the 17th of the month.
>It's August 28th and I hvae already gone 700 minutes into a 1100 minute
>contract.

Dude, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you're screwed right
there.

>If I buy the phone now, and sign a new two-year contract, I
>know I will still have the same bill date, but Verizon will pro-rate my
>minutes and I know I will end up getting screwed on the tail end of my
>current plan and the prorated part of the first month of the new plan -
>basically I will be over the 36.666 minutes per day and end up paying
>$0.40 per minutes over the approximately 550 miuntes I get in a half
>month. So I might wait until just before the end of the billing cycle
>and then get the new phone and the new two-year contract so it can be
>effective starting the 1st day of the new billing period. Or is there a
>way to buy a phone today and ask Verizon to have the new contract go
>into effect on the desired start date?

Talk to the manager. If you are staying on the same plan, I don't see
why they would need to prorate. If you aren't, I'd just wait until
your billing date gets closer. But if you only have 400 minutes left
for the rest of your month and continue to use it at the same rate,
you will be getting hit with one hell of an overage charge anyways.

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:16:38 GMT, USENET READER
<[email protected]> wrote:

>By asking for extended warranty coverage before the warranty runs out,
>you mean I don't have to ask for it when I first buy the phone? So I
>can forgo this coverage until just before the warranty runs out?

Precisely. What's the point in paying for extended warranty coverage
while the original manufacturer's warranty is still in effect? This
coverage is provided by VZW. It is not the same thing as the
insurance you can buy. So yes, wait until your 11th month of
ownership before signing up.

>Another question - my billing cycle starts on the 17th of the month.
>It's August 28th and I hvae already gone 700 minutes into a 1100 minute
>contract.

Dude, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you're screwed right
there.

>If I buy the phone now, and sign a new two-year contract, I
>know I will still have the same bill date, but Verizon will pro-rate my
>minutes and I know I will end up getting screwed on the tail end of my
>current plan and the prorated part of the first month of the new plan -
>basically I will be over the 36.666 minutes per day and end up paying
>$0.40 per minutes over the approximately 550 miuntes I get in a half
>month. So I might wait until just before the end of the billing cycle
>and then get the new phone and the new two-year contract so it can be
>effective starting the 1st day of the new billing period. Or is there a
>way to buy a phone today and ask Verizon to have the new contract go
>into effect on the desired start date?

Talk to the manager. If you are staying on the same plan, I don't see
why they would need to prorate. If you aren't, I'd just wait until
your billing date gets closer. But if you only have 400 minutes left
for the rest of your month and continue to use it at the same rate,
you will be getting hit with one hell of an overage charge anyways.

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:59:25 GMT, USENET READER
<[email protected]> wrote:

>No - it was a working V710 that was secured to the base by a nylon
>wire-tie that was wrapped around the phone, perhaps compressing the case
>of the phone together and thereby pushing the keypad up and exposing the
>edges of the key.

There have been scattered reports of "moving keypads" on the V710, but
mine is as solid as the proverbial, umm, rock.

>One thing I have been reading about the phone is that there is possibly
>no way to store the images shot on the camere on the removable flash
>card - does that mean the images only stay in the phone's memory to be
>sent via pic messaging? Does this mean I can't store the images on the
>flash card and remove the card and read it on my desktop?

Nope. You can move images back and forth from the phone to your
desktop via the SD card adapter for Transflash (included with the TF
card when you buy it) and the SD reader on your PC. I've done it a
bunch of times. The only extra step is if you store the image in the
phone...hit the Menu key and move it to the TF card (which shows up in
the phone as "TRI-MMC" for some reason).

>Are there card readers available for the transflash cards that work on
>desktop USB ports instead of laptops?

There are no TF card readers as far as I know...the TF card should
come with an SD adapter, which converts it to a full-sized SD card
readable by anything that reads SD cards. My laptop has an SD slot
built in (as does my PDA) and it works fine. You slide the TF card
into the SD adapter and then insert that card into the SD slot.

There are a zillion USB readers for SD cards or multiple cards... all
the ones I've used work on both desktop and laptop computers.

There are "issues" with the V710 which are pretty much outlined here:

http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html

(scroll down past the wordy rant at the top)

If you're interested in the phone, you should read this - particularly
the "Things I Like" and "Things I Dislike" section and see if any of
it applies to you.

For me, virtually none of the oft-stated "issues" either show up on my
phone or apply to me in how I use the phone. I use the phone for,
well, phone calls, which it handles quite well via the very good RF
section in the phone. No, not very good, excellent. I also use
Bluetooth, but only use the services included in the V710 -
handsfree/speakerphone and data connections to the Internet, and all
of it works well.

It's up to you if the phone, as it currently stands, meets your needs.
For what *I* want, I'm thrilled with it. It's the best phone I've
ever owned, and performs like a champion. Ignore the trolls like
Killer Child Madness and read the above linked page.

Mike

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:59:25 GMT, USENET READER
<[email protected]> wrote:

>No - it was a working V710 that was secured to the base by a nylon
>wire-tie that was wrapped around the phone, perhaps compressing the case
>of the phone together and thereby pushing the keypad up and exposing the
>edges of the key.

There have been scattered reports of "moving keypads" on the V710, but
mine is as solid as the proverbial, umm, rock.

>One thing I have been reading about the phone is that there is possibly
>no way to store the images shot on the camere on the removable flash
>card - does that mean the images only stay in the phone's memory to be
>sent via pic messaging? Does this mean I can't store the images on the
>flash card and remove the card and read it on my desktop?

Nope. You can move images back and forth from the phone to your
desktop via the SD card adapter for Transflash (included with the TF
card when you buy it) and the SD reader on your PC. I've done it a
bunch of times. The only extra step is if you store the image in the
phone...hit the Menu key and move it to the TF card (which shows up in
the phone as "TRI-MMC" for some reason).

>Are there card readers available for the transflash cards that work on
>desktop USB ports instead of laptops?

There are no TF card readers as far as I know...the TF card should
come with an SD adapter, which converts it to a full-sized SD card
readable by anything that reads SD cards. My laptop has an SD slot
built in (as does my PDA) and it works fine. You slide the TF card
into the SD adapter and then insert that card into the SD slot.

There are a zillion USB readers for SD cards or multiple cards... all
the ones I've used work on both desktop and laptop computers.

There are "issues" with the V710 which are pretty much outlined here:

http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html

(scroll down past the wordy rant at the top)

If you're interested in the phone, you should read this - particularly
the "Things I Like" and "Things I Dislike" section and see if any of
it applies to you.

For me, virtually none of the oft-stated "issues" either show up on my
phone or apply to me in how I use the phone. I use the phone for,
well, phone calls, which it handles quite well via the very good RF
section in the phone. No, not very good, excellent. I also use
Bluetooth, but only use the services included in the V710 -
handsfree/speakerphone and data connections to the Internet, and all
of it works well.

It's up to you if the phone, as it currently stands, meets your needs.
For what *I* want, I'm thrilled with it. It's the best phone I've
ever owned, and performs like a champion. Ignore the trolls like
Killer Child Madness and read the above linked page.

Mike