motorola mobile phone tools

No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.

From:CJD
[email protected]

> Do you, or have you used PST...
> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying the
>> CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added and some
>> were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better ones) I paid a
>> few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've either taken from
>> my CDs or found offered for free.
>> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay so
>> I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data Pilot.
>> Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for the things I
>> use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for the things I
>> provide. I figure that if something is worth using or having it's
>> worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable price. If everything
>> is free for the taking there won't be much incentive to create
>> anything will there? If you want to justify stealing by the fact
>> that it can be done by just "clicking a link," that's fine, I'm not
>> here to judge you - but don't try to justify theft just because it's
>> easy and you won't get caught. It would probably be easy to steal
>> the tires off your car but I doubt you'd tip your hat to the thief
>> and say "that's OK, it was fair game because it was easy to steal."
>> Lastly, please don't justify your actions by accusing someone whom
>> you don't know and have never met of doing the same thing.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> From:CJD
>> [email protected]
>>
>>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you paid
>>> for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't have a
>>> single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds either, and
>>> the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
>>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your cell,
>>> and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a link to a full
>>> version download, you would go out and buy it, is that what you
>>> expect one to believe?
>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal them.
>>>> What can you send me?
>>>>
>>>> From:rg
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and the
>>>>>> software was part of the package price. If you want to steal the
>>>>>> software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab one and run. If
>>>>>> you think you're entitled to a new battery or headset grab those
>>>>>> too. You can buy the software on ebay for under $10 so what's the
>>>>>> big deal about paying? Any version from 2.11 on will upgrade
>>>>>> itself on installation. If you somehow feel entitled to use it
>>>>>> without actually buying it, you can download it from several
>>>>>> places if you know how to use Google. But that's probably too
>>>>>> much like work.
>>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
>>>>>> some free stuff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From:CJD
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed it
>>>>> and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
>>>>> spending your money why should I?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
>>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I think
>>>>>>>> you will have to pay like the rest of us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free version of
>>>>>>>>> the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably version 3.0.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I have is the A630
>>>>>>>>> which is used on the T-mobile network!

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For some reason, I just do not believe you at all :-)
"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.
>
> From:CJD
> [email protected]
>
> > Do you, or have you used PST...
> > "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying the
> >> CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added and some
> >> were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better ones) I paid a
> >> few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've either taken from
> >> my CDs or found offered for free.
> >> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay so
> >> I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data Pilot.
> >> Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for the things I
> >> use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for the things I
> >> provide. I figure that if something is worth using or having it's
> >> worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable price. If everything
> >> is free for the taking there won't be much incentive to create
> >> anything will there? If you want to justify stealing by the fact
> >> that it can be done by just "clicking a link," that's fine, I'm not
> >> here to judge you - but don't try to justify theft just because it's
> >> easy and you won't get caught. It would probably be easy to steal
> >> the tires off your car but I doubt you'd tip your hat to the thief
> >> and say "that's OK, it was fair game because it was easy to steal."
> >> Lastly, please don't justify your actions by accusing someone whom
> >> you don't know and have never met of doing the same thing.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >>
> >> From:CJD
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you paid
> >>> for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't have a
> >>> single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds either, and
> >>> the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
> >>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your cell,
> >>> and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a link to a full
> >>> version download, you would go out and buy it, is that what you
> >>> expect one to believe?
> >>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal them.
> >>>> What can you send me?
> >>>>
> >>>> From:rg
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and the
> >>>>>> software was part of the package price. If you want to steal the
> >>>>>> software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab one and run. If
> >>>>>> you think you're entitled to a new battery or headset grab those
> >>>>>> too. You can buy the software on ebay for under $10 so what's the
> >>>>>> big deal about paying? Any version from 2.11 on will upgrade
> >>>>>> itself on installation. If you somehow feel entitled to use it
> >>>>>> without actually buying it, you can download it from several
> >>>>>> places if you know how to use Google. But that's probably too
> >>>>>> much like work.
> >>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
> >>>>>> some free stuff?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From:CJD
> >>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed it
> >>>>> and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
> >>>>> spending your money why should I?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
> >>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I think
> >>>>>>>> you will have to pay like the rest of us.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free version of
> >>>>>>>>> the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably version 3.0.
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I have is the A630
> >>>>>>>>> which is used on the T-mobile network!
>
>

For some reason? What reason? If accusing me of being a liar (what's my
motivation?) helps you justify your lack of scruples so be it.

Rather than respond to the points I make (I guess you can't) you instead
try to somehow imply that I'm the same as you, as if that would make it
right, and when that fails, simply start calling me a liar with
absolutely no evidence to back yourself up. With a mind like that I
guess I'm not surprised that you have to steal to get by. At least you
don't try to hide it.

Not sure why it makes a difference to you, but I don't have or use PST
because I'm perfectly happy with the way my v3 works and, moreso, if I
did want to change something, I'm afraid I'd screw it up if I tried. The
only thing I've ever wanted to add was the ability to add java apps (not
just games) and I learned how to do that through Bluetooth without
changing anything (as described in my blog). I've been using Motorola
phones for over 20 years so I'm quite used to the way they work and I
accept them for what they are.

Have a good life... I just hope your neighbors have sturdy locks.


From:CJD
[email protected]

> For some reason, I just do not believe you at all :-)
> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.
>>
>> From:CJD
>> [email protected]
>>
>>> Do you, or have you used PST...
>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying the
>>>> CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added and some
>>>> were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better ones) I paid a
>>>> few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've either taken from
>>>> my CDs or found offered for free.
>>>> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay
>>>> so I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data
>>>> Pilot. Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for
>>>> the things I use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for
>>>> the things I provide. I figure that if something is worth using or
>>>> having it's worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable price.
>>>> If everything is free for the taking there won't be much incentive
>>>> to create anything will there? If you want to justify stealing by
>>>> the fact that it can be done by just "clicking a link," that's
>>>> fine, I'm not here to judge you - but don't try to justify theft
>>>> just because it's easy and you won't get caught. It would probably
>>>> be easy to steal the tires off your car but I doubt you'd tip your
>>>> hat to the thief and say "that's OK, it was fair game because it
>>>> was easy to steal." Lastly, please don't justify your actions by
>>>> accusing someone whom you don't know and have never met of doing
>>>> the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From:CJD
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you paid
>>>>> for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't have a
>>>>> single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds either,
>>>>> and the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
>>>>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your cell,
>>>>> and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a link to a
>>>>> full version download, you would go out and buy it, is that what
>>>>> you expect one to believe?
>>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal them.
>>>>>> What can you send me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From:rg
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and the
>>>>>>>> software was part of the package price. If you want to steal
>>>>>>>> the software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab one and
>>>>>>>> run. If you think you're entitled to a new battery or headset
>>>>>>>> grab those too. You can buy the software on ebay for under $10
>>>>>>>> so what's the big deal about paying? Any version from 2.11 on
>>>>>>>> will upgrade itself on installation. If you somehow feel
>>>>>>>> entitled to use it without actually buying it, you can
>>>>>>>> download it from several places if you know how to use Google.
>>>>>>>> But that's probably too much like work.
>>>>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
>>>>>>>> some free stuff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From:CJD
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed
>>>>>>> it and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
>>>>>>> spending your money why should I?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I
>>>>>>>>>> think you will have to pay like the rest of us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free version
>>>>>>>>>>> of the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably version 3.0.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I have is the A630
>>>>>>>>>>> which is used on the T-mobile network!

Points? What points, all I see are melodramatic statements about stealing
headsets and batteries, and neighbors having sturdy locks lol
Do you actually believe that because someone has no problem using readily
available materials on the net, instead of running out like a happy consumer
and buying it, they steal from their local Cellular shop and break into
their neighbors houses? Get a grip bud, and give me a break.
It's preachers like you that have gigs of warez stored on hdds, then go
online and say "SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!"
And I said I didn't believe you, if you can't handle that, therapy is
available to help with your insecurities I'm sure.
Btw- you can enable the java app loader using p2kman.
"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:lB%[email protected]...
> For some reason? What reason? If accusing me of being a liar (what's my
> motivation?) helps you justify your lack of scruples so be it.
>
> Rather than respond to the points I make (I guess you can't) you instead
> try to somehow imply that I'm the same as you, as if that would make it
> right, and when that fails, simply start calling me a liar with
> absolutely no evidence to back yourself up. With a mind like that I
> guess I'm not surprised that you have to steal to get by. At least you
> don't try to hide it.
>
> Not sure why it makes a difference to you, but I don't have or use PST
> because I'm perfectly happy with the way my v3 works and, moreso, if I
> did want to change something, I'm afraid I'd screw it up if I tried. The
> only thing I've ever wanted to add was the ability to add java apps (not
> just games) and I learned how to do that through Bluetooth without
> changing anything (as described in my blog). I've been using Motorola
> phones for over 20 years so I'm quite used to the way they work and I
> accept them for what they are.
>
> Have a good life... I just hope your neighbors have sturdy locks.
>
>
> From:CJD
> [email protected]
>
> > For some reason, I just do not believe you at all :-)
> > "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.
> >>
> >> From:CJD
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >>> Do you, or have you used PST...
> >>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying the
> >>>> CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added and some
> >>>> were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better ones) I paid a
> >>>> few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've either taken from
> >>>> my CDs or found offered for free.
> >>>> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay
> >>>> so I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data
> >>>> Pilot. Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for
> >>>> the things I use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for
> >>>> the things I provide. I figure that if something is worth using or
> >>>> having it's worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable price.
> >>>> If everything is free for the taking there won't be much incentive
> >>>> to create anything will there? If you want to justify stealing by
> >>>> the fact that it can be done by just "clicking a link," that's
> >>>> fine, I'm not here to judge you - but don't try to justify theft
> >>>> just because it's easy and you won't get caught. It would probably
> >>>> be easy to steal the tires off your car but I doubt you'd tip your
> >>>> hat to the thief and say "that's OK, it was fair game because it
> >>>> was easy to steal." Lastly, please don't justify your actions by
> >>>> accusing someone whom you don't know and have never met of doing
> >>>> the same thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From:CJD
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you paid
> >>>>> for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't have a
> >>>>> single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds either,
> >>>>> and the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
> >>>>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your cell,
> >>>>> and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a link to a
> >>>>> full version download, you would go out and buy it, is that what
> >>>>> you expect one to believe?
> >>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal them.
> >>>>>> What can you send me?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From:rg
> >>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and the
> >>>>>>>> software was part of the package price. If you want to steal
> >>>>>>>> the software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab one and
> >>>>>>>> run. If you think you're entitled to a new battery or headset
> >>>>>>>> grab those too. You can buy the software on ebay for under $10
> >>>>>>>> so what's the big deal about paying? Any version from 2.11 on
> >>>>>>>> will upgrade itself on installation. If you somehow feel
> >>>>>>>> entitled to use it without actually buying it, you can
> >>>>>>>> download it from several places if you know how to use Google.
> >>>>>>>> But that's probably too much like work.
> >>>>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
> >>>>>>>> some free stuff?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From:CJD
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed
> >>>>>>> it and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
> >>>>>>> spending your money why should I?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
> >>>>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I
> >>>>>>>>>> think you will have to pay like the rest of us.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free version
> >>>>>>>>>>> of the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably version 3.0.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I have is the A630
> >>>>>>>>>>> which is used on the T-mobile network!
>
>

I never said "Shame on you." I specifically said I'm not here to judge
you. Feeling guilty?
I'm fine with a nameless person who doesn't know anything about me
calling me a liar but you said you had a reason for doing so and I just
asked what it is. But you don't want to tell me. Cool.

So if something is "readily available on the net" (but apparently not to
you 'cause you couldn't find it) then it's OK not to pay for it. OK, I
got it now. I learn something new everyday. So, does that apply to all
readily available items where ever they might be or just those on the
net? I just want to know where the proper place to draw the line is so I
can align my moral compass with yours.

Enjoy your loot and have a good life!

From:CJD
[email protected]

> Points? What points, all I see are melodramatic statements about
> stealing headsets and batteries, and neighbors having sturdy locks lol
> Do you actually believe that because someone has no problem using
> readily available materials on the net, instead of running out like a
> happy consumer and buying it, they steal from their local Cellular
> shop and break into their neighbors houses? Get a grip bud, and give
> me a break.
> It's preachers like you that have gigs of warez stored on hdds, then
> go online and say "SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!"
> And I said I didn't believe you, if you can't handle that, therapy is
> available to help with your insecurities I'm sure.
> Btw- you can enable the java app loader using p2kman.
> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:lB%[email protected]...
>> For some reason? What reason? If accusing me of being a liar (what's
>> my motivation?) helps you justify your lack of scruples so be it.
>>
>> Rather than respond to the points I make (I guess you can't) you
>> instead try to somehow imply that I'm the same as you, as if that
>> would make it right, and when that fails, simply start calling me a
>> liar with absolutely no evidence to back yourself up. With a mind
>> like that I guess I'm not surprised that you have to steal to get
>> by. At least you don't try to hide it.
>>
>> Not sure why it makes a difference to you, but I don't have or use
>> PST because I'm perfectly happy with the way my v3 works and,
>> moreso, if I did want to change something, I'm afraid I'd screw it
>> up if I tried. The only thing I've ever wanted to add was the
>> ability to add java apps (not just games) and I learned how to do
>> that through Bluetooth without changing anything (as described in my
>> blog). I've been using Motorola phones for over 20 years so I'm
>> quite used to the way they work and I accept them for what they are.
>>
>> Have a good life... I just hope your neighbors have sturdy locks.
>>
>>
>> From:CJD
>> [email protected]
>>
>>> For some reason, I just do not believe you at all :-)
>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.
>>>>
>>>> From:CJD
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>> Do you, or have you used PST...
>>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying
>>>>>> the CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added
>>>>>> and some were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better
>>>>>> ones) I paid a few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've
>>>>>> either taken from my CDs or found offered for free.
>>>>>> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay
>>>>>> so I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data
>>>>>> Pilot. Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for
>>>>>> the things I use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for
>>>>>> the things I provide. I figure that if something is worth using
>>>>>> or having it's worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable
>>>>>> price. If everything is free for the taking there won't be much
>>>>>> incentive to create anything will there? If you want to justify
>>>>>> stealing by the fact that it can be done by just "clicking a
>>>>>> link," that's fine, I'm not here to judge you - but don't try to
>>>>>> justify theft just because it's easy and you won't get caught.
>>>>>> It would probably be easy to steal the tires off your car but I
>>>>>> doubt you'd tip your hat to the thief and say "that's OK, it was
>>>>>> fair game because it was easy to steal." Lastly, please don't
>>>>>> justify your actions by accusing someone whom you don't know and
>>>>>> have never met of doing the same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From:CJD
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you
>>>>>>> paid for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't
>>>>>>> have a single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds
>>>>>>> either, and the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
>>>>>>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your
>>>>>>> cell, and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a
>>>>>>> link to a full version download, you would go out and buy it,
>>>>>>> is that what you expect one to believe?
>>>>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal
>>>>>>>> them. What can you send me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From:rg
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR"
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and
>>>>>>>>>> the software was part of the package price. If you want to
>>>>>>>>>> steal the software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab
>>>>>>>>>> one and run. If you think you're entitled to a new battery
>>>>>>>>>> or headset grab those too. You can buy the software on ebay
>>>>>>>>>> for under $10 so what's the big deal about paying? Any
>>>>>>>>>> version from 2.11 on will upgrade itself on installation.
>>>>>>>>>> If you somehow feel entitled to use it without actually
>>>>>>>>>> buying it, you can download it from several places if you
>>>>>>>>>> know how to use Google. But that's probably too much like
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
>>>>>>>>>> some free stuff?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From:CJD
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed
>>>>>>>>> it and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
>>>>>>>>> spending your money why should I?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think you will have to pay like the rest of us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 3.0. Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have is the A630 which is used on the T-mobile network!

You know exactly what I meant, just as I never said you were a liar, feeling
foolish?
You're obviously pulling at straws given your last post bruce, and giving
there can be no middle ground here, or proof either way, this can continue
on and on. You say you are not here to judge, re-read your posts and see if
you can spout that again lol

Enjoy your gigs BruceRicheous and have a good life!
"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I never said "Shame on you." I specifically said I'm not here to judge
> you. Feeling guilty?
> I'm fine with a nameless person who doesn't know anything about me
> calling me a liar but you said you had a reason for doing so and I just
> asked what it is. But you don't want to tell me. Cool.
>
> So if something is "readily available on the net" (but apparently not to
> you 'cause you couldn't find it) then it's OK not to pay for it. OK, I
> got it now. I learn something new everyday. So, does that apply to all
> readily available items where ever they might be or just those on the
> net? I just want to know where the proper place to draw the line is so I
> can align my moral compass with yours.
>
> Enjoy your loot and have a good life!
>
> From:CJD
> [email protected]
>
> > Points? What points, all I see are melodramatic statements about
> > stealing headsets and batteries, and neighbors having sturdy locks lol
> > Do you actually believe that because someone has no problem using
> > readily available materials on the net, instead of running out like a
> > happy consumer and buying it, they steal from their local Cellular
> > shop and break into their neighbors houses? Get a grip bud, and give
> > me a break.
> > It's preachers like you that have gigs of warez stored on hdds, then
> > go online and say "SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!"
> > And I said I didn't believe you, if you can't handle that, therapy is
> > available to help with your insecurities I'm sure.
> > Btw- you can enable the java app loader using p2kman.
> > "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:lB%[email protected]...
> >> For some reason? What reason? If accusing me of being a liar (what's
> >> my motivation?) helps you justify your lack of scruples so be it.
> >>
> >> Rather than respond to the points I make (I guess you can't) you
> >> instead try to somehow imply that I'm the same as you, as if that
> >> would make it right, and when that fails, simply start calling me a
> >> liar with absolutely no evidence to back yourself up. With a mind
> >> like that I guess I'm not surprised that you have to steal to get
> >> by. At least you don't try to hide it.
> >>
> >> Not sure why it makes a difference to you, but I don't have or use
> >> PST because I'm perfectly happy with the way my v3 works and,
> >> moreso, if I did want to change something, I'm afraid I'd screw it
> >> up if I tried. The only thing I've ever wanted to add was the
> >> ability to add java apps (not just games) and I learned how to do
> >> that through Bluetooth without changing anything (as described in my
> >> blog). I've been using Motorola phones for over 20 years so I'm
> >> quite used to the way they work and I accept them for what they are.
> >>
> >> Have a good life... I just hope your neighbors have sturdy locks.
> >>
> >>
> >> From:CJD
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >>> For some reason, I just do not believe you at all :-)
> >>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>> No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> From:CJD
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>>> Do you, or have you used PST...
> >>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>>>> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying
> >>>>>> the CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added
> >>>>>> and some were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better
> >>>>>> ones) I paid a few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've
> >>>>>> either taken from my CDs or found offered for free.
> >>>>>> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay
> >>>>>> so I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data
> >>>>>> Pilot. Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for
> >>>>>> the things I use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for
> >>>>>> the things I provide. I figure that if something is worth using
> >>>>>> or having it's worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable
> >>>>>> price. If everything is free for the taking there won't be much
> >>>>>> incentive to create anything will there? If you want to justify
> >>>>>> stealing by the fact that it can be done by just "clicking a
> >>>>>> link," that's fine, I'm not here to judge you - but don't try to
> >>>>>> justify theft just because it's easy and you won't get caught.
> >>>>>> It would probably be easy to steal the tires off your car but I
> >>>>>> doubt you'd tip your hat to the thief and say "that's OK, it was
> >>>>>> fair game because it was easy to steal." Lastly, please don't
> >>>>>> justify your actions by accusing someone whom you don't know and
> >>>>>> have never met of doing the same thing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From:CJD
> >>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you
> >>>>>>> paid for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't
> >>>>>>> have a single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds
> >>>>>>> either, and the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
> >>>>>>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your
> >>>>>>> cell, and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a
> >>>>>>> link to a full version download, you would go out and buy it,
> >>>>>>> is that what you expect one to believe?
> >>>>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>>>>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal
> >>>>>>>> them. What can you send me?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From:rg
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR"
> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and
> >>>>>>>>>> the software was part of the package price. If you want to
> >>>>>>>>>> steal the software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab
> >>>>>>>>>> one and run. If you think you're entitled to a new battery
> >>>>>>>>>> or headset grab those too. You can buy the software on ebay
> >>>>>>>>>> for under $10 so what's the big deal about paying? Any
> >>>>>>>>>> version from 2.11 on will upgrade itself on installation.
> >>>>>>>>>> If you somehow feel entitled to use it without actually
> >>>>>>>>>> buying it, you can download it from several places if you
> >>>>>>>>>> know how to use Google. But that's probably too much like
> >>>>>>>>>> work.
> >>>>>>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
> >>>>>>>>>> some free stuff?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> From:CJD
> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed
> >>>>>>>>> it and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
> >>>>>>>>> spending your money why should I?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think you will have to pay like the rest of us.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version of the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version 3.0. Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have is the A630 which is used on the T-mobile network!
>
>

And be sure to use your seatbelt and don't drink and drive.



On Wed, 11 May 2005 02:25:38 -0400, "CJD" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You know exactly what I meant, just as I never said you were a liar, feeling
>foolish?
> You're obviously pulling at straws given your last post bruce, and giving
>there can be no middle ground here, or proof either way, this can continue
>on and on. You say you are not here to judge, re-read your posts and see if
>you can spout that again lol
>
>Enjoy your gigs BruceRicheous and have a good life!
>"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I never said "Shame on you." I specifically said I'm not here to judge
>> you. Feeling guilty?
>> I'm fine with a nameless person who doesn't know anything about me
>> calling me a liar but you said you had a reason for doing so and I just
>> asked what it is. But you don't want to tell me. Cool.
>>
>> So if something is "readily available on the net" (but apparently not to
>> you 'cause you couldn't find it) then it's OK not to pay for it. OK, I
>> got it now. I learn something new everyday. So, does that apply to all
>> readily available items where ever they might be or just those on the
>> net? I just want to know where the proper place to draw the line is so I
>> can align my moral compass with yours.
>>
>> Enjoy your loot and have a good life!
>>
>> From:CJD
>> [email protected]
>>
>> > Points? What points, all I see are melodramatic statements about
>> > stealing headsets and batteries, and neighbors having sturdy locks lol
>> > Do you actually believe that because someone has no problem using
>> > readily available materials on the net, instead of running out like a
>> > happy consumer and buying it, they steal from their local Cellular
>> > shop and break into their neighbors houses? Get a grip bud, and give
>> > me a break.
>> > It's preachers like you that have gigs of warez stored on hdds, then
>> > go online and say "SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!"
>> > And I said I didn't believe you, if you can't handle that, therapy is
>> > available to help with your insecurities I'm sure.
>> > Btw- you can enable the java app loader using p2kman.
>> > "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:lB%[email protected]...
>> >> For some reason? What reason? If accusing me of being a liar (what's
>> >> my motivation?) helps you justify your lack of scruples so be it.
>> >>
>> >> Rather than respond to the points I make (I guess you can't) you
>> >> instead try to somehow imply that I'm the same as you, as if that
>> >> would make it right, and when that fails, simply start calling me a
>> >> liar with absolutely no evidence to back yourself up. With a mind
>> >> like that I guess I'm not surprised that you have to steal to get
>> >> by. At least you don't try to hide it.
>> >>
>> >> Not sure why it makes a difference to you, but I don't have or use
>> >> PST because I'm perfectly happy with the way my v3 works and,
>> >> moreso, if I did want to change something, I'm afraid I'd screw it
>> >> up if I tried. The only thing I've ever wanted to add was the
>> >> ability to add java apps (not just games) and I learned how to do
>> >> that through Bluetooth without changing anything (as described in my
>> >> blog). I've been using Motorola phones for over 20 years so I'm
>> >> quite used to the way they work and I accept them for what they are.
>> >>
>> >> Have a good life... I just hope your neighbors have sturdy locks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From:CJD
>> >> [email protected]
>> >>
>> >>> For some reason, I just do not believe you at all :-)
>> >>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>> news:[email protected]...
>> >>>> No, I haven't used PST and don't have it. I have no need for it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From:CJD
>> >>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Do you, or have you used PST...
>> >>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:[email protected]...
>> >>>>>> I've never d/l'd MP3s from the net because I don't mind buying
>> >>>>>> the CDs to use in my car. I only have a few games that I added
>> >>>>>> and some were offered free at zedge.no and some (the better
>> >>>>>> ones) I paid a few bucks apiece for. Ringtones I've added I've
>> >>>>>> either taken from my CDs or found offered for free.
>> >>>>>> If I didn't have MPT bundled I'd probably have bought it on ebay
>> >>>>>> so I'd have it on disk. I did pay full price for a copy of Data
>> >>>>>> Pilot. Believe it or not, I don't mind paying a fair price for
>> >>>>>> the things I use just as I don't mind charging a fair price for
>> >>>>>> the things I provide. I figure that if something is worth using
>> >>>>>> or having it's worth paying the guy who made it a reasonable
>> >>>>>> price. If everything is free for the taking there won't be much
>> >>>>>> incentive to create anything will there? If you want to justify
>> >>>>>> stealing by the fact that it can be done by just "clicking a
>> >>>>>> link," that's fine, I'm not here to judge you - but don't try to
>> >>>>>> justify theft just because it's easy and you won't get caught.
>> >>>>>> It would probably be easy to steal the tires off your car but I
>> >>>>>> doubt you'd tip your hat to the thief and say "that's OK, it was
>> >>>>>> fair game because it was easy to steal." Lastly, please don't
>> >>>>>> justify your actions by accusing someone whom you don't know and
>> >>>>>> have never met of doing the same thing.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cheers!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> From:CJD
>> >>>>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Oh and how the richeous come forth, what a crock. I bet you
>> >>>>>>> paid for your ringtones, games, etc as well. Probably don't
>> >>>>>>> have a single mp3 that's not from one of your store bought cds
>> >>>>>>> either, and the list goes on. Gimme a freakin break.
>> >>>>>>> You are actually saying, that if mpt did not come with your
>> >>>>>>> cell, and you had a choice between buying it, or clicking a
>> >>>>>>> link to a full version download, you would go out and buy it,
>> >>>>>>> is that what you expect one to believe?
>> >>>>>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>> >>>>>>>> Oh, I like things for free as long as I don't have to steal
>> >>>>>>>> them. What can you send me?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> From:rg
>> >>>>>>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR"
>> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and
>> >>>>>>>>>> the software was part of the package price. If you want to
>> >>>>>>>>>> steal the software just walk into any Motorola dealer, grab
>> >>>>>>>>>> one and run. If you think you're entitled to a new battery
>> >>>>>>>>>> or headset grab those too. You can buy the software on ebay
>> >>>>>>>>>> for under $10 so what's the big deal about paying? Any
>> >>>>>>>>>> version from 2.11 on will upgrade itself on installation.
>> >>>>>>>>>> If you somehow feel entitled to use it without actually
>> >>>>>>>>>> buying it, you can download it from several places if you
>> >>>>>>>>>> know how to use Google. But that's probably too much like
>> >>>>>>>>>> work.
>> >>>>>>>>>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me
>> >>>>>>>>>> some free stuff?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> From:CJD
>> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed
>> >>>>>>>>> it and upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy
>> >>>>>>>>> spending your money why should I?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Zap Eagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> think you will have to pay like the rest of us.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Thick_9" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version of the motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version 3.0. Thanks in advance. If needed, the phone I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have is the A630 which is used on the T-mobile network!
>>
>>
>

agreed.
"Spectrum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> And be sure to use your seatbelt and don't drink and drive.
>
>
>

On Mon, 09 May 2005 17:22:05 GMT, meme
<[email protected]> wrote:

> alt.binaries.cellular-phones.warez
Thanks, meme

Zap Eagle Wrote:
> "rg" [email protected] wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR" [email protected] wrote:
> -
> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and the
> software
> was part of the package price. If you want to steal the software just
> walk into any Motorola dealer, grab one and run. If you think you're
> entitled to a new battery or headset grab those too. You can buy the
> software on ebay for under $10 so what's the big deal about paying?
> Any
> version from 2.11 on will upgrade itself on installation. If you
> somehow feel entitled to use it without actually buying it, you can
> download it from several places if you know how to use Google. But
> that's probably too much like work.
> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me some
> free
> stuff?
>
> From:CJD
> [email protected]
> -
>
>
> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed it and
> upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
>
> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy spending
> your
> money why should I?
>
> --
> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
>
> "Zap Eagle" [email protected] wrote in message
> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I think you
> will have to pay like the rest of us.
>
> "Thick_9" [email protected] wrote in message
> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free version of the
> motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably version 3.0. Thanks in
> advance. If needed, the phone I have is the A630 which is used on
> the T-mobile network!-
> -
> -
> Ah, Kazaa. Check out Google about the virtues of Kazaa.
> Notwithstanding,
> It is an illegal copy if you obtained it that way. Legal free stuff
> is
> good, I do not need to know where to obtain illegal stuff. If one can
> afford it, charge it or don't buy it. Need a new car? Do you steal
> it?
No but I expect the company to upgrade things that need to be for free
once I buy one, cars are way to expensive.


--
methusela

Well sir, you will be sorely disappointed when you buy your next car. The
only things they'll upgrade for free are recall items. As far as cars being
way too expensive, that's a subjective analysis. What you probably mean is
that they are way too expensive relative to your income. In the US, at
least, virtually ANYbody can (and does) own a car at virtually every level
income so they can't be too expensive.

"methusela" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Zap Eagle Wrote:
>> "rg" [email protected] wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:21:18 GMT, "BruceR" [email protected] wrote:
>> -
>> I know I paid for mine. It came bundled with the phone and the
>> software
>> was part of the package price. If you want to steal the software just
>> walk into any Motorola dealer, grab one and run. If you think you're
>> entitled to a new battery or headset grab those too. You can buy the
>> software on ebay for under $10 so what's the big deal about paying?
>> Any
>> version from 2.11 on will upgrade itself on installation. If you
>> somehow feel entitled to use it without actually buying it, you can
>> download it from several places if you know how to use Google. But
>> that's probably too much like work.
>> By the way, what business are you in? Maybe you could send me some
>> free
>> stuff?
>>
>> From:CJD
>> [email protected]
>> -
>>
>>
>> I got version 3.0 full from Kazaa++ clean and green. Installed it and
>> upgraded to 3.20 no problem works great.
>>
>> I would love to send you something free but since you enjoy spending
>> your
>> money why should I?
>>
>> --
>> Ya right, and you are saying you actually paid for it?
>>
>> "Zap Eagle" [email protected] wrote in message
>> news:0z9fe.63195$c24.59512@attbi_s72...
>> As far as I know they don't provide a "free version", I think you
>> will have to pay like the rest of us.
>>
>> "Thick_9" [email protected] wrote in message
>> news:zc8fe.1627$7G.774@trndny01...
>> Does anyone have a site where I can download a free version of the
>> motorola mobile phone tools? Preferably version 3.0. Thanks in
>> advance. If needed, the phone I have is the A630 which is used on
>> the T-mobile network!-
>> -
>> -
>> Ah, Kazaa. Check out Google about the virtues of Kazaa.
>> Notwithstanding,
>> It is an illegal copy if you obtained it that way. Legal free stuff
>> is
>> good, I do not need to know where to obtain illegal stuff. If one can
>> afford it, charge it or don't buy it. Need a new car? Do you steal
>> it?
> No but I expect the company to upgrade things that need to be for free
> once I buy one, cars are way to expensive.
>
>
> --
> methusela