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- 06-01-2005, 08:11 PM #1slowdown698Guest
- 06-02-2005, 08:33 AM #2bampGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
"slowdown698" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> REQ: Motorola Phone Tools.
ebay!
bamp
- 06-02-2005, 03:27 PM #3Orc GeneralGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
"bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
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> "slowdown698" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > REQ: Motorola Phone Tools.
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> ebay!
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> bamp
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nah! I use the program available at www.bearshare.com to download MPT )
- 06-03-2005, 08:34 AM #4bampGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
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> "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
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>> "slowdown698" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:fVtne.6372$Lb.2865@trndny05...
>> > REQ: Motorola Phone Tools.
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>> ebay!
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>> bamp
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> nah! I use the program available at www.bearshare.com to download MPT
> )
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Stolen software!!
bamp
- 06-03-2005, 12:06 PM #5notGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:59 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
wrote:
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>>> "slowdown698" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:fVtne.6372$Lb.2865@trndny05...
>>> > REQ: Motorola Phone Tools.
try this... v3.11h
http://www.nodevice.com/Telephone/Motorola/30163.html
- 06-03-2005, 12:11 PM #6notGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:59 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
wrote:
>Stolen software!!
horse****. it should come with the phone.
- 06-03-2005, 06:26 PM #7bampGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
"not" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:59 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
> wrote:
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>>Stolen software!!
>
> horse****. it should come with the phone.
But it don't, computers don't come with Microsoft "Office", unless you pay
for it. Same thing, stolen software.
bamp
- 06-03-2005, 10:41 PM #8notGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:26:03 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
wrote:
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>"not" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:59 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
>> wrote:
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>>>Stolen software!!
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>> horse****. it should come with the phone.
>
>But it don't, computers don't come with Microsoft "Office", unless you pay
>for it. Same thing, stolen software.
>
>bamp
>
sorry. argument doesn't fly. it's more like buying a box with no DOS
at all... gotta have an interface.
i'll happily buy the data cable, but the software should come
packaged.. period. and i'll feel no qualms whatsoever in finding it
any way i can. end of discussion.
- 06-04-2005, 11:52 AM #9Todd CopelandGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
"not" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> sorry. argument doesn't fly. it's more like buying a box with no DOS
> at all... gotta have an interface.
> i'll happily buy the data cable, but the software should come
> packaged.. period. and i'll feel no qualms whatsoever in finding it
> any way i can. end of discussion.
Actually you analogy is incorrect. You cannot use a computer with an OS but
you can use a mobile phone w/o a PC cable and software. So bamp's example
was more to the point. That being said... data cables _are_ sold with MPTs
but the poster is not looking to _buy_ MPT, he's looking to steal it.
So to follow your example, it's like buying a bare bones computer with no OS
and then asking someone to send you a pirated copy of Windows to load onto
it.
- 06-05-2005, 02:49 PM #10?Guest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
The MOTOROLAS that are sold in other countries come with a USB cable and
PHONE TOOLS. As well as FULL VERSION games. It's the same as verizon
crippling the bluetooth on a v710 so you can only use headsets and not
transfer anything else. They all want to take money from you for stuff that
should come with a 300 to 500 dollar phone.
"not" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:59 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
> wrote:
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>>Stolen software!!
>
> horse****. it should come with the phone.
- 06-05-2005, 02:51 PM #11?Guest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
A better analogy would be your computer coming without a mouse.
"bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
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> "not" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:59 -0500, "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Stolen software!!
>>
>> horse****. it should come with the phone.
>
> But it don't, computers don't come with Microsoft "Office", unless you pay
> for it. Same thing, stolen software.
>
> bamp
>
- 06-05-2005, 06:28 PM #12Alan BremnerGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:49:37 GMT, "?" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The MOTOROLAS that are sold in other countries come with a USB cable and
>PHONE TOOLS. As well as FULL VERSION games.
My V3 sold in the UK (fancy box, GSM stock unlocked to any network)
came with MPT Lite, not the full Deluxe version.
>It's the same as verizon crippling the bluetooth on a v710 so you can only use
>headsets and not transfer anything else. They all want to take money from
>you for stuff that should come with a 300 to 500 dollar phone.
Sourcing warez only deprives the software vendor of revenue, and they
(BVRP) have no control over what Motorola or network operators provide
to customers.
Al
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- 06-06-2005, 11:41 PM #13lun4tikGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
What is the difference between MPT Lite and the full version?
BTW the software company was paid by MOTOROLA long ago in the process.
They are not paid based on how many overpriced copys are sold by the
individual phone companies. Who has purchased their copy directly from
BVRP? Like I said it's your provider that is trying to extract more loot
form your pocket.
"Alan Bremner" <[email protected] (Alan B)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:49:37 GMT, "?" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> The MOTOROLAS that are sold in other countries come with a USB cable and
>>PHONE TOOLS. As well as FULL VERSION games.
>
> My V3 sold in the UK (fancy box, GSM stock unlocked to any network)
> came with MPT Lite, not the full Deluxe version.
>
>>It's the same as verizon crippling the bluetooth on a v710 so you can only
>>use
>>headsets and not transfer anything else. They all want to take money from
>>you for stuff that should come with a 300 to 500 dollar phone.
>
> Sourcing warez only deprives the software vendor of revenue, and they
> (BVRP) have no control over what Motorola or network operators provide
> to customers.
>
> Al
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- 06-06-2005, 11:57 PM #14lun4tikGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
I just looked at the BVRP website again and I also looked at the wrong
version of phone tools and it's the exact same thing.
"Alan Bremner" <[email protected] (Alan B)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:49:37 GMT, "?" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The MOTOROLAS that are sold in other countries come with a USB cable and
>>PHONE TOOLS. As well as FULL VERSION games.
>
> My V3 sold in the UK (fancy box, GSM stock unlocked to any network)
> came with MPT Lite, not the full Deluxe version.
>
>>It's the same as verizon crippling the bluetooth on a v710 so you can only
>>use
>>headsets and not transfer anything else. They all want to take money from
>>you for stuff that should come with a 300 to 500 dollar phone.
>
> Sourcing warez only deprives the software vendor of revenue, and they
> (BVRP) have no control over what Motorola or network operators provide
> to customers.
>
> Al
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- 06-09-2005, 08:54 PM #15brobinGuest
Re: Motorola Phone Tools.
Where did you learn this? I find it hard to believe that BVRP gets nothing
based on each copy of their work. But if you have documentation to back up
your assertion I'd appreciate seeing it.
Given that what you say is is true and only Motorola and/or their dealers
keep all the revenue, does that somehow justify making or using it free as
"warez?"
If, as you claim, Motorola did buy a fully paid up license for unlimited
distribution, are they not entitled to recoup and profit from that
investment through sale of that software? And finally, notwithstanding any
of the financial arrangements between BVRP and Motorola, why, under any
circumstances, would anyone be entitled to a free copy of something that is
not offered for free?
If you think that it's wrong for a company not to bundle the software with
the phone simply don't buy that company's phone and go with the company who
offers what you want. Want Motorola with bundled software? Buy it that
way - there are independent dealers who sell it that way.
All the arguments justifying theft through "warez" are nothing more than
excuses from spoiled brats too cheap to pay their own way and too cowardly
to actually walk into the store and shoplift it.
"lun4tik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> BTW the software company was paid by MOTOROLA long ago in the process.
> They are not paid based on how many overpriced copys are sold by the
> individual phone companies.
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