V635 Caller ID

IS there a way to disable my own caller ID permanantly, when calling other
parties...and not just call by call.

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In article <[email protected]>, "TicTac" <[email protected]> writes:
> IS there a way to disable my own caller ID permanantly, when calling other
> parties...and not just call by call.

There is no way to keep your own carrier from knowing your number.

Thus, defaulting to "No Caller ID" would logically be handled in
your carrier's equipment.

I have a Motorola V60S with service from Verizon. By default one
would dial *82 to suppress transmission of Caller ID. But when I
signed up for service I specified that Caller ID was to be suppressed
by default. So from my phone (and my wife's) one must dial *82 to
_enable_ Caller ID on a particular call.

For certain favored (?) people I have preprogrammed *82 into the
phonebook, so they always get my Caller ID information. I do
forget sometimes when _returning_ a call from that person, as
just using the "call them back" feature does not automatically
insert *82. The only other problem I had was in a remote area
not in the normal Verizon service area where *82 prevented calls
from completing. But when I went back a year later that area had
been upgraded.

Go to SETTINGS/IN-CALL Setup/My Caller ID select All Calls: Hide ID




On 1 Sep 2005 17:03:30 -0500, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, "TicTac" <[email protected]> writes:
>> IS there a way to disable my own caller ID permanantly, when calling other
>> parties...and not just call by call.
>
>There is no way to keep your own carrier from knowing your number.
>
>Thus, defaulting to "No Caller ID" would logically be handled in
>your carrier's equipment.
>
>I have a Motorola V60S with service from Verizon. By default one
>would dial *82 to suppress transmission of Caller ID. But when I
>signed up for service I specified that Caller ID was to be suppressed
>by default. So from my phone (and my wife's) one must dial *82 to
>_enable_ Caller ID on a particular call.
>
>For certain favored (?) people I have preprogrammed *82 into the
>phonebook, so they always get my Caller ID information. I do
>forget sometimes when _returning_ a call from that person, as
>just using the "call them back" feature does not automatically
>insert *82. The only other problem I had was in a remote area
>not in the normal Verizon service area where *82 prevented calls
>from completing. But when I went back a year later that area had
>been upgraded.

"Larry Kilgallen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "TicTac"
> <[email protected]> writes:
>> IS there a way to disable my own caller ID permanantly, when calling
>> other
>> parties...and not just call by call.
>
> There is no way to keep your own carrier from knowing your number.
>
> Thus, defaulting to "No Caller ID" would logically be handled in
> your carrier's equipment.

I realize that my carrier will always know my number, it's the other party
I'm calling, that I would like not to see my number. I'm in Canada, on
Rogers, and Rogers can, and will apply that feature via the system, for a
fee. Most phones I've had, have the feature built in...Nokia3595,
SamsungP207 both have the option of not sending own caller ID when making
calls.

With the 635...the only thing I can find, is blocking my ID call by call.

T, I went there (sorry for the different accounts, I'm on a different
computer) and the only option is next call only....when that is selected,
the next option is to show or hide ID, but it only works for the next call
only! The All Calls option just isn't there!

Tictac
"T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Go to SETTINGS/IN-CALL Setup/My Caller ID select All Calls: Hide ID
>
>
>
>
> On 1 Sep 2005 17:03:30 -0500, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, "TicTac"
>><[email protected]> writes:
>>> IS there a way to disable my own caller ID permanantly, when calling
>>> other
>>> parties...and not just call by call.
>>
>>There is no way to keep your own carrier from knowing your number.
>>
>>Thus, defaulting to "No Caller ID" would logically be handled in
>>your carrier's equipment.
>>
>>I have a Motorola V60S with service from Verizon. By default one
>>would dial *82 to suppress transmission of Caller ID. But when I
>>signed up for service I specified that Caller ID was to be suppressed
>>by default. So from my phone (and my wife's) one must dial *82 to
>>_enable_ Caller ID on a particular call.
>>
>>For certain favored (?) people I have preprogrammed *82 into the
>>phonebook, so they always get my Caller ID information. I do
>>forget sometimes when _returning_ a call from that person, as
>>just using the "call them back" feature does not automatically
>>insert *82. The only other problem I had was in a remote area
>>not in the normal Verizon service area where *82 prevented calls
>>from completing. But when I went back a year later that area had
>>been upgraded.
>

In article <[email protected]>, "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> "Larry Kilgallen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>, "TicTac"
>> <[email protected]> writes:
>>> IS there a way to disable my own caller ID permanantly, when calling
>>> other
>>> parties...and not just call by call.
>>
>> There is no way to keep your own carrier from knowing your number.
>>
>> Thus, defaulting to "No Caller ID" would logically be handled in
>> your carrier's equipment.
>
> I realize that my carrier will always know my number, it's the other party
> I'm calling, that I would like not to see my number. I'm in Canada, on
> Rogers, and Rogers can, and will apply that feature via the system, for a
> fee.

So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.

> Most phones I've had, have the feature built in...Nokia3595,
> SamsungP207 both have the option of not sending own caller ID when making
> calls.

But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches do.
If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes you think
they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did not pay the
fee ?

Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now using,
until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when calling, has the
option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller ID:2Hide Number.....with
that option selected, every call I make shows up as being a private
number....the V635 I have, only offers that on a call per call basis...and
is somewhat cumbersome.

Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for free. Rogers
charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some, if not most phones,
have the option of blocking your ID at the source.

I know what you are saying about the feature being network dependent...but
I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my SamsungP207 does it...My
wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going
back.

Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's the phone
that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers) offer. $29.26, taxes
included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited evenings, unlimited weekends, call
display, call forwarding, conference calling, per second billing, detailed
billing, 10 cent long distance, and probably some other things I've
forgotten about....all in all, it's a good plan, for my use. I like the 635.
Having to pay an extra $25 because Motorola lacks one feature that all the
other phones I have/had, is a shame.



> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.

> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches do.
> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes you think
> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did not pay the
> fee ?
>

This can be easily fixed by doing a simple SEEMS edit:
SEEM 0032_0000: Offset 14: bit 0: set to on (1) to turn on the All Calls
menu item.
See www.motomodders.net for info on SEEMS editing.

From:Not a Re@l N@me
[email protected]

> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now
> using, until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when
> calling, has the option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller
> ID:2Hide Number.....with that option selected, every call I make
> shows up as being a private number....the V635 I have, only offers
> that on a call per call basis...and is somewhat cumbersome.
>
> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for free.
> Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some, if not
> most phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the source.
>
> I know what you are saying about the feature being network
> dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my
> SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the
> MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>
> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's the
> phone that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers) offer.
> $29.26, taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited evenings,
> unlimited weekends, call display, call forwarding, conference
> calling, per second billing, detailed billing, 10 cent long
> distance, and probably some other things I've forgotten about....all
> in all, it's a good plan, for my use. I like the 635. Having to pay
> an extra $25 because Motorola lacks one feature that all the other
> phones I have/had, is a shame.
>
>
>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>
>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches
>> do. If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes
>> you think they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you
>> did not pay the fee ?

The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their flex file.
Blame the operator.

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"Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now using,
> until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when calling, has the
> option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller ID:2Hide Number.....with
> that option selected, every call I make shows up as being a private
> number....the V635 I have, only offers that on a call per call basis...and
> is somewhat cumbersome.
>
> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for free.
> Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some, if not most
> phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the source.
>
> I know what you are saying about the feature being network dependent...but
> I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my SamsungP207 does it...My
> wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's
> going back.
>
> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's the phone
> that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers) offer. $29.26, taxes
> included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited evenings, unlimited weekends,
> call display, call forwarding, conference calling, per second billing,
> detailed billing, 10 cent long distance, and probably some other things
> I've forgotten about....all in all, it's a good plan, for my use. I like
> the 635. Having to pay an extra $25 because Motorola lacks one feature
> that all the other phones I have/had, is a shame.
>
>
>
>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>
>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches do.
>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes you think
>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did not pay the
>> fee ?
>>
>
>

To everyone who read, or replied:

Thank you very much for your repsonses and interest. I hope that individuals
from Motorola read this thread as well.

From the repsonses, I see it is possible to turn on this feature. Was it the
operator (re:carrier re:Rogers) that had this feature turned off in the
manufacturing of the V635 for them? Most likely! Is it worth my time (and
I've already spent about 45 mintues) trying to find the appropriate
software, and learn how to alter this setting? Not really. Not when there
are other phones out there that do what I want. Is Rogers trying to scam
it's customers for that extra $25? Most likely. However, what bothers me
most, is the response I received from Motorola itself:

"Regarding your concern, unfrortunately it is not possible to block your
telephone number to other people's Caller ID on all calls with the Motorola
V635. If you would like to submit ideas you may have regarding the design of
our existing or future products, you may contact our New Ideas Group at
1-847-576-5184."

It is possible. But for whatever reason, it's been disabled. Why produce a
phone with features disabled? Unless you plan on activating them in the
future, calling it a new model, and charging more $. Disgusting practices,
for Motorola, and/or Rogers!! Bell and Samsung are looking better and
better.

I like the v635. I was even contemplating paying the $25 to have my number
blocked by the carrier. If I had the time or access to the resources needed
to alter the phone myself, I might of considered keeping the phone. The
phone only has 26 minutes on it, and I've only had it for 16 days. I still
have time to return it to Rogers for a full credit. Too bad. I still have
the P207 from Samsung, and although it lacks vibe/ring mode (at the same
time) it's a nice phone....and it does block my caller ID from all outgoing
calls.

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"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their flex
> file.
> Blame the operator.
>
> --
> Steve
> "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now using,
>> until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when calling, has the
>> option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller ID:2Hide Number.....with
>> that option selected, every call I make shows up as being a private
>> number....the V635 I have, only offers that on a call per call
>> basis...and is somewhat cumbersome.
>>
>> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for free.
>> Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some, if not most
>> phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the source.
>>
>> I know what you are saying about the feature being network
>> dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my
>> SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the
>> MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>>
>> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's the phone
>> that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers) offer. $29.26,
>> taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited evenings, unlimited
>> weekends, call display, call forwarding, conference calling, per second
>> billing, detailed billing, 10 cent long distance, and probably some other
>> things I've forgotten about....all in all, it's a good plan, for my use.
>> I like the 635. Having to pay an extra $25 because Motorola lacks one
>> feature that all the other phones I have/had, is a shame.
>>
>>
>>
>>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>>
>>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches do.
>>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes you
>>> think
>>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did not pay
>>> the
>>> fee ?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

As stated in previous posting, Blame the operator, not Motorola.
Operators decide what is turned on and off in their Flex files.

My V635 feature turned on since it does not have the Rogers flex file
loaded.


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Steve
"TicTac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> To everyone who read, or replied:
>
> Thank you very much for your repsonses and interest. I hope that
> individuals from Motorola read this thread as well.
>
> From the repsonses, I see it is possible to turn on this feature. Was it
> the operator (re:carrier re:Rogers) that had this feature turned off in
> the manufacturing of the V635 for them? Most likely! Is it worth my time
> (and I've already spent about 45 mintues) trying to find the appropriate
> software, and learn how to alter this setting? Not really. Not when there
> are other phones out there that do what I want. Is Rogers trying to scam
> it's customers for that extra $25? Most likely. However, what bothers me
> most, is the response I received from Motorola itself:
>
> "Regarding your concern, unfrortunately it is not possible to block your
> telephone number to other people's Caller ID on all calls with the
> Motorola V635. If you would like to submit ideas you may have regarding
> the design of our existing or future products, you may contact our New
> Ideas Group at 1-847-576-5184."
>
> It is possible. But for whatever reason, it's been disabled. Why produce a
> phone with features disabled? Unless you plan on activating them in the
> future, calling it a new model, and charging more $. Disgusting practices,
> for Motorola, and/or Rogers!! Bell and Samsung are looking better and
> better.
>
> I like the v635. I was even contemplating paying the $25 to have my number
> blocked by the carrier. If I had the time or access to the resources
> needed to alter the phone myself, I might of considered keeping the phone.
> The phone only has 26 minutes on it, and I've only had it for 16 days. I
> still have time to return it to Rogers for a full credit. Too bad. I still
> have the P207 from Samsung, and although it lacks vibe/ring mode (at the
> same time) it's a nice phone....and it does block my caller ID from all
> outgoing calls.
>
> --
> RC
>
> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their flex
>> file.
>> Blame the operator.
>>
>> --
>> Steve
>> "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now
>>> using, until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when calling,
>>> has the option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller ID:2Hide
>>> Number.....with that option selected, every call I make shows up as
>>> being a private number....the V635 I have, only offers that on a call
>>> per call basis...and is somewhat cumbersome.
>>>
>>> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for free.
>>> Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some, if not most
>>> phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the source.
>>>
>>> I know what you are saying about the feature being network
>>> dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my
>>> SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the
>>> MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>>>
>>> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's the
>>> phone that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers) offer.
>>> $29.26, taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited evenings,
>>> unlimited weekends, call display, call forwarding, conference calling,
>>> per second billing, detailed billing, 10 cent long distance, and
>>> probably some other things I've forgotten about....all in all, it's a
>>> good plan, for my use. I like the 635. Having to pay an extra $25
>>> because Motorola lacks one feature that all the other phones I have/had,
>>> is a shame.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>>>
>>>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches do.
>>>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes you
>>>> think
>>>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did not pay
>>>> the
>>>> fee ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

What bothers me, is the repsonse from Motorola, that states the v635 cannot
do that! Rogers does it to a Motorola, and not a Samsung...go figure?!?!??

How about an unlocked v635? Any idea if that feature would be active?

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"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As stated in previous posting, Blame the operator, not Motorola.
> Operators decide what is turned on and off in their Flex files.
>
> My V635 feature turned on since it does not have the Rogers flex file
> loaded.
>
>
> --
> Steve
> "TicTac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> To everyone who read, or replied:
>>
>> Thank you very much for your repsonses and interest. I hope that
>> individuals from Motorola read this thread as well.
>>
>> From the repsonses, I see it is possible to turn on this feature. Was it
>> the operator (re:carrier re:Rogers) that had this feature turned off in
>> the manufacturing of the V635 for them? Most likely! Is it worth my time
>> (and I've already spent about 45 mintues) trying to find the appropriate
>> software, and learn how to alter this setting? Not really. Not when there
>> are other phones out there that do what I want. Is Rogers trying to scam
>> it's customers for that extra $25? Most likely. However, what bothers me
>> most, is the response I received from Motorola itself:
>>
>> "Regarding your concern, unfrortunately it is not possible to block your
>> telephone number to other people's Caller ID on all calls with the
>> Motorola V635. If you would like to submit ideas you may have regarding
>> the design of our existing or future products, you may contact our New
>> Ideas Group at 1-847-576-5184."
>>
>> It is possible. But for whatever reason, it's been disabled. Why produce
>> a phone with features disabled? Unless you plan on activating them in the
>> future, calling it a new model, and charging more $. Disgusting
>> practices, for Motorola, and/or Rogers!! Bell and Samsung are looking
>> better and better.
>>
>> I like the v635. I was even contemplating paying the $25 to have my
>> number blocked by the carrier. If I had the time or access to the
>> resources needed to alter the phone myself, I might of considered keeping
>> the phone. The phone only has 26 minutes on it, and I've only had it for
>> 16 days. I still have time to return it to Rogers for a full credit. Too
>> bad. I still have the P207 from Samsung, and although it lacks vibe/ring
>> mode (at the same time) it's a nice phone....and it does block my caller
>> ID from all outgoing calls.
>>
>> --
>> RC
>>
>> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their flex
>>> file.
>>> Blame the operator.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve
>>> "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now
>>>> using, until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when
>>>> calling, has the option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller
>>>> ID:2Hide Number.....with that option selected, every call I make shows
>>>> up as being a private number....the V635 I have, only offers that on a
>>>> call per call basis...and is somewhat cumbersome.
>>>>
>>>> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for free.
>>>> Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some, if not most
>>>> phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the source.
>>>>
>>>> I know what you are saying about the feature being network
>>>> dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my
>>>> SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the
>>>> MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's the
>>>> phone that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers) offer.
>>>> $29.26, taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited evenings,
>>>> unlimited weekends, call display, call forwarding, conference calling,
>>>> per second billing, detailed billing, 10 cent long distance, and
>>>> probably some other things I've forgotten about....all in all, it's a
>>>> good plan, for my use. I like the 635. Having to pay an extra $25
>>>> because Motorola lacks one feature that all the other phones I
>>>> have/had, is a shame.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>>>>
>>>>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end - switches
>>>>> do.
>>>>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes you
>>>>> think
>>>>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did not pay
>>>>> the
>>>>> fee ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Samsung may not offer the flexibility of Motorola - good for you but not
for Rogers. Motorola can't very well tell you to go do a SEEMS change
and if they tell you about "hidden" features they risk alienating
Rogers. Best bet - Reflex with "stock" firmware to get everything
unhidden the way Motorola meant it to be.

From:TicTac
[email protected]

> What bothers me, is the repsonse from Motorola, that states the v635
> cannot do that! Rogers does it to a Motorola, and not a Samsung...go
> figure?!?!??
> How about an unlocked v635? Any idea if that feature would be active?
>
> --
> RC
>
> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> As stated in previous posting, Blame the operator, not Motorola.
>> Operators decide what is turned on and off in their Flex files.
>>
>> My V635 feature turned on since it does not have the Rogers flex file
>> loaded.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve
>> "TicTac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> To everyone who read, or replied:
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your repsonses and interest. I hope that
>>> individuals from Motorola read this thread as well.
>>>
>>> From the repsonses, I see it is possible to turn on this feature.
>>> Was it the operator (re:carrier re:Rogers) that had this feature
>>> turned off in the manufacturing of the V635 for them? Most likely!
>>> Is it worth my time (and I've already spent about 45 mintues)
>>> trying to find the appropriate software, and learn how to alter
>>> this setting? Not really. Not when there are other phones out there
>>> that do what I want. Is Rogers trying to scam it's customers for
>>> that extra $25? Most likely. However, what bothers me most, is the
>>> response I received from Motorola itself: "Regarding your concern,
>>> unfrortunately it is not possible to block
>>> your telephone number to other people's Caller ID on all calls with
>>> the Motorola V635. If you would like to submit ideas you may have
>>> regarding the design of our existing or future products, you may
>>> contact our New Ideas Group at 1-847-576-5184."
>>>
>>> It is possible. But for whatever reason, it's been disabled. Why
>>> produce a phone with features disabled? Unless you plan on
>>> activating them in the future, calling it a new model, and charging
>>> more $. Disgusting practices, for Motorola, and/or Rogers!! Bell
>>> and Samsung are looking better and better.
>>>
>>> I like the v635. I was even contemplating paying the $25 to have my
>>> number blocked by the carrier. If I had the time or access to the
>>> resources needed to alter the phone myself, I might of considered
>>> keeping the phone. The phone only has 26 minutes on it, and I've
>>> only had it for 16 days. I still have time to return it to Rogers
>>> for a full credit. Too bad. I still have the P207 from Samsung, and
>>> although it lacks vibe/ring mode (at the same time) it's a nice
>>> phone....and it does block my caller ID from all outgoing calls.
>>>
>>> --
>>> RC
>>>
>>> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their
>>>> flex file.
>>>> Blame the operator.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steve
>>>> "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now
>>>>> using, until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when
>>>>> calling, has the option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller
>>>>> ID:2Hide Number.....with that option selected, every call I make
>>>>> shows up as being a private number....the V635 I have, only
>>>>> offers that on a call per call basis...and is somewhat cumbersome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for
>>>>> free. Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some,
>>>>> if not most phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the
>>>>> source. I know what you are saying about the feature being network
>>>>> dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my
>>>>> SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the
>>>>> MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's
>>>>> the phone that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers)
>>>>> offer. $29.26, taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited
>>>>> evenings, unlimited weekends, call display, call forwarding,
>>>>> conference calling, per second billing, detailed billing, 10 cent
>>>>> long distance, and probably some other things I've forgotten
>>>>> about....all in all, it's a good plan, for my use. I like the
>>>>> 635. Having to pay an extra $25 because Motorola lacks one
>>>>> feature that all the other phones I have/had, is a shame.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end -
>>>>>> switches do.
>>>>>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes
>>>>>> you think
>>>>>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did
>>>>>> not pay the
>>>>>> fee ?

Okay, I'll bite. How does one reflex with stock firmware? Or is that one of
those geek-like procedures that I don't have hours upon hours to research?


"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Samsung may not offer the flexibility of Motorola - good for you but not
> for Rogers. Motorola can't very well tell you to go do a SEEMS change and
> if they tell you about "hidden" features they risk alienating Rogers. Best
> bet - Reflex with "stock" firmware to get everything unhidden the way
> Motorola meant it to be.
>
> From:TicTac
> [email protected]
>
>> What bothers me, is the repsonse from Motorola, that states the v635
>> cannot do that! Rogers does it to a Motorola, and not a Samsung...go
>> figure?!?!??
>> How about an unlocked v635? Any idea if that feature would be active?
>>
>> --
>> RC
>>
>> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> As stated in previous posting, Blame the operator, not Motorola.
>>> Operators decide what is turned on and off in their Flex files.
>>>
>>> My V635 feature turned on since it does not have the Rogers flex file
>>> loaded.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve
>>> "TicTac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> To everyone who read, or replied:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your repsonses and interest. I hope that
>>>> individuals from Motorola read this thread as well.
>>>>
>>>> From the repsonses, I see it is possible to turn on this feature.
>>>> Was it the operator (re:carrier re:Rogers) that had this feature
>>>> turned off in the manufacturing of the V635 for them? Most likely!
>>>> Is it worth my time (and I've already spent about 45 mintues)
>>>> trying to find the appropriate software, and learn how to alter
>>>> this setting? Not really. Not when there are other phones out there
>>>> that do what I want. Is Rogers trying to scam it's customers for
>>>> that extra $25? Most likely. However, what bothers me most, is the
>>>> response I received from Motorola itself: "Regarding your concern,
>>>> unfrortunately it is not possible to block
>>>> your telephone number to other people's Caller ID on all calls with
>>>> the Motorola V635. If you would like to submit ideas you may have
>>>> regarding the design of our existing or future products, you may
>>>> contact our New Ideas Group at 1-847-576-5184."
>>>>
>>>> It is possible. But for whatever reason, it's been disabled. Why
>>>> produce a phone with features disabled? Unless you plan on
>>>> activating them in the future, calling it a new model, and charging
>>>> more $. Disgusting practices, for Motorola, and/or Rogers!! Bell
>>>> and Samsung are looking better and better.
>>>>
>>>> I like the v635. I was even contemplating paying the $25 to have my
>>>> number blocked by the carrier. If I had the time or access to the
>>>> resources needed to alter the phone myself, I might of considered
>>>> keeping the phone. The phone only has 26 minutes on it, and I've
>>>> only had it for 16 days. I still have time to return it to Rogers
>>>> for a full credit. Too bad. I still have the P207 from Samsung, and
>>>> although it lacks vibe/ring mode (at the same time) it's a nice
>>>> phone....and it does block my caller ID from all outgoing calls.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> RC
>>>>
>>>> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their
>>>>> flex file.
>>>>> Blame the operator.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am now
>>>>>> using, until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID when
>>>>>> calling, has the option under Settings:6Network Services:5Caller
>>>>>> ID:2Hide Number.....with that option selected, every call I make
>>>>>> shows up as being a private number....the V635 I have, only
>>>>>> offers that on a call per call basis...and is somewhat cumbersome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID block on my line for
>>>>>> free. Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but some,
>>>>>> if not most phones, have the option of blocking your ID at the
>>>>>> source. I know what you are saying about the feature being network
>>>>>> dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595 would do it, my
>>>>>> SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200?? does it....can the
>>>>>> MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's
>>>>>> the phone that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers)
>>>>>> offer. $29.26, taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited
>>>>>> evenings, unlimited weekends, call display, call forwarding,
>>>>>> conference calling, per second billing, detailed billing, 10 cent
>>>>>> long distance, and probably some other things I've forgotten
>>>>>> about....all in all, it's a good plan, for my use. I like the
>>>>>> 635. Having to pay an extra $25 because Motorola lacks one
>>>>>> feature that all the other phones I have/had, is a shame.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end -
>>>>>>> switches do.
>>>>>>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes
>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did
>>>>>>> not pay the
>>>>>>> fee ?
>
>

I suppose it is "one of those geek-like procedures" that takes some time
to learn but it is not at all difficult. Read the info at www.motox.us
and the Noob Guides at www.motomodders.net which, you can probably
fairly chacterize as "moto-geek heaven." I only started actually
modding my Razr a few weeks ago when a flash was released that offered
new features that I actually thought were worth the effort.
Specifically, I added the VideoCam function, multi-character phonebook
search and converted from Cingular branding to TMo branding since I use
TMo. Since then I've reflashed twice again to get updates that improved
the camera function, battery life, menu speed, reception and available
memory.

From:Not a Re@l N@me
[email protected]

> Okay, I'll bite. How does one reflex with stock firmware? Or is that
> one of those geek-like procedures that I don't have hours upon hours
> to research?
>
> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Samsung may not offer the flexibility of Motorola - good for you but
>> not for Rogers. Motorola can't very well tell you to go do a SEEMS
>> change and if they tell you about "hidden" features they risk
>> alienating Rogers. Best bet - Reflex with "stock" firmware to get
>> everything unhidden the way Motorola meant it to be.
>>
>> From:TicTac
>> [email protected]
>>
>>> What bothers me, is the repsonse from Motorola, that states the v635
>>> cannot do that! Rogers does it to a Motorola, and not a Samsung...go
>>> figure?!?!??
>>> How about an unlocked v635? Any idea if that feature would be
>>> active? --
>>> RC
>>>
>>> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> As stated in previous posting, Blame the operator, not Motorola.
>>>> Operators decide what is turned on and off in their Flex files.
>>>>
>>>> My V635 feature turned on since it does not have the Rogers flex
>>>> file loaded.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steve
>>>> "TicTac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> To everyone who read, or replied:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your repsonses and interest. I hope that
>>>>> individuals from Motorola read this thread as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the repsonses, I see it is possible to turn on this feature.
>>>>> Was it the operator (re:carrier re:Rogers) that had this feature
>>>>> turned off in the manufacturing of the V635 for them? Most likely!
>>>>> Is it worth my time (and I've already spent about 45 mintues)
>>>>> trying to find the appropriate software, and learn how to alter
>>>>> this setting? Not really. Not when there are other phones out
>>>>> there that do what I want. Is Rogers trying to scam it's
>>>>> customers for that extra $25? Most likely. However, what bothers
>>>>> me most, is the response I received from Motorola itself:
>>>>> "Regarding your concern, unfrortunately it is not possible to
>>>>> block your telephone number to other people's Caller ID on all
>>>>> calls
>>>>> with the Motorola V635. If you would like to submit ideas you may
>>>>> have regarding the design of our existing or future products, you
>>>>> may contact our New Ideas Group at 1-847-576-5184."
>>>>>
>>>>> It is possible. But for whatever reason, it's been disabled. Why
>>>>> produce a phone with features disabled? Unless you plan on
>>>>> activating them in the future, calling it a new model, and
>>>>> charging more $. Disgusting practices, for Motorola, and/or
>>>>> Rogers!! Bell and Samsung are looking better and better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the v635. I was even contemplating paying the $25 to have
>>>>> my number blocked by the carrier. If I had the time or access to
>>>>> the resources needed to alter the phone myself, I might of
>>>>> considered keeping the phone. The phone only has 26 minutes on
>>>>> it, and I've only had it for 16 days. I still have time to return
>>>>> it to Rogers for a full credit. Too bad. I still have the P207
>>>>> from Samsung, and although it lacks vibe/ring mode (at the same
>>>>> time) it's a nice phone....and it does block my caller ID from
>>>>> all outgoing calls. --
>>>>> RC
>>>>>
>>>>> Remove the obvious if replying by email
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> The phone has the capability, the operator turned it off in their
>>>>>> flex file.
>>>>>> Blame the operator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> "Not a Re@l N@me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> Not sure. What I do know, is with the Samsung P207, which I am
>>>>>>> now using, until I can figure out how to shut off my caller ID
>>>>>>> when calling, has the option under Settings:6Network
>>>>>>> Services:5Caller ID:2Hide Number.....with that option selected,
>>>>>>> every call I make shows up as being a private number....the
>>>>>>> V635 I have, only offers that on a call per call basis...and is
>>>>>>> somewhat cumbersome. Here in Canada, Bell Mobility will put ID
>>>>>>> block on my line for
>>>>>>> free. Rogers charges a one time fee of(I believe) $25...but
>>>>>>> some, if not most phones, have the option of blocking your ID
>>>>>>> at the source. I know what you are saying about the feature
>>>>>>> being network dependent...but I'm telling you, my old Nokia3595
>>>>>>> would do it, my SamsungP207 does it...My wife's Nokia6200??
>>>>>>> does it....can the MotorolaV635 do it? If not, it's going back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, my carrier has a very good plan, that I do like, it's
>>>>>>> the phone that lacks a feature that other phones(manufacturers)
>>>>>>> offer. $29.26, taxes included, 200 anytime minutes, unlimited
>>>>>>> evenings, unlimited weekends, call display, call forwarding,
>>>>>>> conference calling, per second billing, detailed billing, 10
>>>>>>> cent long distance, and probably some other things I've
>>>>>>> forgotten about....all in all, it's a good plan, for my use. I
>>>>>>> like the 635. Having to pay an extra $25 because Motorola lacks
>>>>>>> one feature that all the other phones I have/had, is a shame.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So your carrier has a business plan you don't like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But phones don't transmit the Caller ID to the other end -
>>>>>>>> switches do.
>>>>>>>> If your carrier wants to charge you for the feature, what makes
>>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>>> they would refrain from transmitting the Caller ID if you did
>>>>>>>> not pay the
>>>>>>>> fee ?