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  1. #1
    BHbomber
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    I'm kind of new to this. Could someone tell me what unlocking the phone does? How can I install games and how do I know what games will work on my phone?


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  2. #2
    Paul Fedorenko
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    Re: Unlocking V551

    "BHbomber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > I'm kind of new to this. Could someone tell me what unlocking the phone


    Unlocking your phone allows you to use your phone with SIM cards other than
    your home provider. So... Let's say you go overseas on vacation and your
    phone recognizes the frequencies used in the country you're visiting. With
    an unlocked phone, you could get a pre-paid SIM in that country, with a
    local number and avoid your home provider's ridiculously high roaming fees.

    > does? How can I install games and how do I know what games will work on
    > my phone?


    The few games that I've bought were sent to my phone directly from the
    seller and billed to my monthly invoice. As for how to tell if a game will
    work on your phone... It'll usually say in the game's description or on the
    order form.





  3. #3
    Sam
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    Re: Unlocking V551


    "Paul Fedorenko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    : "BHbomber" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message

    : Unlocking your phone allows you to use your phone with SIM cards other
    than
    : your home provider. So... Let's say you go overseas on vacation and
    your
    : phone recognizes the frequencies used in the country you're visiting.
    With
    : an unlocked phone, you could get a pre-paid SIM in that country, with a
    : local number and avoid your home provider's ridiculously high roaming
    fees.

    Unfortunately, "basic" unlocking doesn't unlock your WAP or GPRS.





  4. #4
    John Navas
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    Re: Unlocking V551

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    In <VuG3f.175976$oW2.165722@pd7tw1no> on Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:29:41 GMT, "Sam"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Paul Fedorenko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >: "BHbomber" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >message
    >
    >: Unlocking your phone allows you to use your phone with SIM cards other than
    >: your home provider. So... Let's say you go overseas on vacation and your
    >: phone recognizes the frequencies used in the country you're visiting. With
    >: an unlocked phone, you could get a pre-paid SIM in that country, with a
    >: local number and avoid your home provider's ridiculously high roaming fees.
    >
    >Unfortunately, "basic" unlocking doesn't unlock your WAP or GPRS.


    What do you mean by that? WAP and GPRS aren't locked, only the phone. All
    you need are the proper service and to enter the correct profiles.

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  5. #5
    Sam
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    Re: Unlocking V551

    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    : :
    : What do you mean by that? WAP and GPRS aren't locked, only the phone.
    All
    : you need are the proper service and to enter the correct profiles.

    Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden with
    most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit" to
    have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic' unlocking.






  6. #6
    Paul Fedorenko
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    Re: Unlocking V551

    "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:qRG3f.188671$tl2.135446@pd7tw3no...

    > Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden with
    > most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit" to
    > have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic' unlocking.


    Either that, or upload a pair of unbranded mma files (mma_ucp, mma_dcp) onto
    your phone, which include the menu options you need, and avoid the whole
    mess of editing seems in the first place.





  7. #7
    John Navas
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    Re: Unlocking V551

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    In <qRG3f.188671$tl2.135446@pd7tw3no> on Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:53:42 GMT, "Sam"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >: :
    >: What do you mean by that? WAP and GPRS aren't locked, only the phone. All
    >: you need are the proper service and to enter the correct profiles.
    >
    >Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden with
    >most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit" to
    >have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic' unlocking.


    I haven't actually tried it, but I think the proper settings can be set by
    means of SMS.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  8. #8

    Re: Unlocking V551

    Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden with
    > most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit" to
    > have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic' unlocking.


    Cingular.com - Customer Service - Phones&Devices
    Motorola - V551 - Browser/Internet - Browser Settings
    Leads you to a page that contains the WAP settings that I can see
    on my Cingular-locked V551.

    Are there others that I'm missing?

    Hmmm. I see that the "baud rate" is set to 9600, while the max is 14400.
    I wonder if that's why I consistently get lower data throughput than John
    Navas does on his V551.

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    Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5




  9. #9
    John Navas
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    Re: Unlocking V551

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    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:29:36 +0000 (UTC),
    [email protected] wrote:

    >Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden with
    >> most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit" to
    >> have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic' unlocking.

    >
    >Cingular.com - Customer Service - Phones&Devices
    >Motorola - V551 - Browser/Internet - Browser Settings
    >Leads you to a page that contains the WAP settings that I can see
    >on my Cingular-locked V551.


    Yep. Works on my Cingular-locked V551 too.

    >Are there others that I'm missing?


    Nope. It's just easier to configure these things by SMS, as I suggested in my
    earlier response.

    >Hmmm. I see that the "baud rate" is set to 9600, while the max is 14400.
    >I wonder if that's why I consistently get lower data throughput than John
    >Navas does on his V551.


    Cingular supports CSD at only 9600 bps, not 14400 bps, and that has no effect
    on GPRS or EGPRS(EDGE) speeds in any event.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  10. #10
    BHbomber
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    Unfortunately, "basic" unlocking doesn't unlock your WAP or GPRS.

    OK so now I'm really showing my lack of knowledge, but what is WAP? I see GPRS come up on my phone sometimes, but I've never heard of WAP. I'm with Rogers if that makes any difference.



  11. #11

    Re: Unlocking V551

    BHbomber <[email protected]> wrote:

    > OK so now I'm really showing my lack of knowledge, but what is WAP? I
    > see GPRS come up on my phone sometimes, but I've never heard of WAP.
    > I'm with Rogers if that makes any difference.


    Google.com define:wap
    Rogers, from what I gather reading this news group, exercises tighter
    control over their locked phones than does Cingular.

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    Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5




  12. #12
    John Navas
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    Re: Unlocking V551

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:24:32 +0000 (UTC),
    [email protected] wrote:

    >BHbomber <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> OK so now I'm really showing my lack of knowledge, but what is WAP? I
    >> see GPRS come up on my phone sometimes, but I've never heard of WAP.
    >> I'm with Rogers if that makes any difference.

    >
    >Google.com define:wap


    <http://www.google.com/search?q=define:wap>

    With either Internet Explorer or Mozilla Firefox this can be turned into a
    "quick search" from the Location bar; i.e., just type "define WAP" and press
    [Enter] to get the definition from Google.

    For Internet Explorer, use Microsoft's free TweakUI PowerToy.

    For Mozilla Firefox (which I use and recommend), right click in a Google
    search box and then click "Add a keyword for this search..." to create the
    Quick Search. Save it in the Quick Searches folder (within Bookmarks), and
    then use Properties to change it to:

    Name: Google Definition
    Location: http://www.google.com/search?q=define:%s
    Keyword: define
    Description: Type "define <search terms>" in the location bar to perform a
    Google definition search

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  13. #13
    Sam
    Guest

    Re: Unlocking V551


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    : [: >Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden
    with
    : >most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit"
    to
    : >have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic'
    unlocking.
    :
    : I haven't actually tried it, but I think the proper settings can be set
    by
    : means of SMS.

    Not....if only was THAT easy, which it is not. Remember, don't assume
    unless you know for sure. I know for a fact that it's locked on Rogers.





  14. #14
    Sam
    Guest

    Re: Unlocking V551


    "BHbomber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    :
    : OK so now I'm really showing my lack of knowledge, but what is WAP? I
    : see GPRS come up on my phone sometimes, but I've never heard of WAP.
    : I'm with Rogers if that makes any difference.

    No problem. Here is the answer. But, basically it's the ability to use
    the Internet on the phone:

    Short for the Wireless Application Protocol, a secure specification that
    allows users to access information instantly via handheld wireless
    devices such as mobile phones, pagers, two-way radios, smartphones and
    communicators.





  15. #15
    John Navas
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    Re: Unlocking V551

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    In <xaZ3f.200899$tl2.103070@pd7tw3no> on Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:45:01 GMT, "Sam"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...


    >: [: >Actually it is, in a manner of speaking. The settings are hidden with
    >: >most carriers eg. Rogers and Cingular. You have to do a "seem edit" to
    >: >have the settings appear. That's not included in the 'basic' unlocking.
    >:
    >: I haven't actually tried it, but I think the proper settings can be set by
    >: means of SMS.
    >
    >Not....if only was THAT easy, which it is not. Remember, don't assume
    >unless you know for sure. I know for a fact that it's locked on Rogers.


    Are you SURE? I've never seen a case where the correct settings couldn't be
    sent by SMS. The Sony Ericsson WAP Configurator
    <http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=global&lc=en&ver=4001&template=ps3&zone=ps>
    does support Rogers.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



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