RAZR V3 Sound Adjustments for the hard of hearing

Hello,

I've been playing with my new RAZR V3 and the speaker
sound during a call is rather dissapointing. I know that
my ears/aids are part of the problem. However a friend
that had a RAZR was very usable. If there is a speaker
phone mode, perhaps that would help.

I've read enough here to know about the SEEM edits
and some of the other special things that can be adjusted.
Is the sound level adjustable beyond its normal max level?
I bought the phone at Cingular. I don't mind changing
to a generic flash/flex (don't know the proer terms yet)
to make these sorts of adjustments.

My only complaints are that the sales people had very
differing opinions on what to charge me, and that their
entire offer of letting me play with one was to let me
listen to one of them jabber a sales pitch a few feet
away while I tested the headset. That wasn't useful
with my aids, so I'll look for one that works better.

D David aids, so I'll look for one that works better.

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You can edit the gains table easily using Motokit 1.06 or Bezol's
P2KTools. Both present graphical sliders to make the adjustments so you
don't have to foll with hex edits. The default for the handset speaker
is 0 and can be increased to 8 but beyond 4 it's too loud and distorted.
If 4 doesn't do it for you try 5 and reduce the volume a bit with the
phone's volume setting. You can also increase the ringer loudness but
again, 4 should be the max.

Fromavid
[email protected]

> Hello,
>
> I've been playing with my new RAZR V3 and the speaker
> sound during a call is rather dissapointing. I know that
> my ears/aids are part of the problem. However a friend
> that had a RAZR was very usable. If there is a speaker
> phone mode, perhaps that would help.
>
> I've read enough here to know about the SEEM edits
> and some of the other special things that can be adjusted.
> Is the sound level adjustable beyond its normal max level?
> I bought the phone at Cingular. I don't mind changing
> to a generic flash/flex (don't know the proer terms yet)
> to make these sorts of adjustments.
>
> My only complaints are that the sales people had very
> differing opinions on what to charge me, and that their
> entire offer of letting me play with one was to let me
> listen to one of them jabber a sales pitch a few feet
> away while I tested the headset. That wasn't useful
> with my aids, so I'll look for one that works better.
>
> D David aids, so I'll look for one that works better.
>
ÿÿ
 oc

Thank you Bruce.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:30:36 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> You can edit the gains table easily using Motokit 1.06 or Bezol's
> P2KTools. Both present graphical sliders to make the adjustments so you
> don't have to foll with hex edits. The default for the handset speaker
> is 0 and can be increased to 8 but beyond 4 it's too loud and distorted.
> If 4 doesn't do it for you try 5 and reduce the volume a bit with the
> phone's volume setting. You can also increase the ringer loudness but
> again, 4 should be the max.
>
> Fromavid
> [email protected]
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've been playing with my new RAZR V3 and the speaker
> > sound during a call is rather dissapointing. I know that
> > my ears/aids are part of the problem. However a friend
> > that had a RAZR was very usable. If there is a speaker
> > phone mode, perhaps that would help.
> >
> > I've read enough here to know about the SEEM edits
> > and some of the other special things that can be adjusted.
> > Is the sound level adjustable beyond its normal max level?
> > I bought the phone at Cingular. I don't mind changing
> > to a generic flash/flex (don't know the proer terms yet)
> > to make these sorts of adjustments.
> >
> > My only complaints are that the sales people had very
> > differing opinions on what to charge me, and that their
> > entire offer of letting me play with one was to let me
> > listen to one of them jabber a sales pitch a few feet
> > away while I tested the headset. That wasn't useful
> > with my aids, so I'll look for one that works better.
> >
> > D David aids, so I'll look for one that works better.
> >
ÿÿ
 oc
>
>

Hello Bruce,

I tried to use P2KTools and a couple other apps. I'm having some
trouble with the drivers for the V3 and perhaps you know what I'm
missing. I've tried to follow the various instructions.

I aquired a USB Cable from WalMart. They had a nice coiled up 3'
USB cable with four adapters of various sizes. One of them was the
mini-USB that the V3 wanted.

My Windows 2000 Pro system recognized the "Motorola Phone (V3)"
and failed to install the drivers. The complaint was something about
a function selection not being chosen. Since there were no options
for the drivers (motorola_029), I wasn't sure what to do next. I
read several more forums and haven't found a similar description.

My Windows 2003 Server recognized the phone and installed the
(motorola_030) drivers from Microsoft Update. There were no errors.
P2KTools could not find a phone to play with.

I'll write down the full text of the error message again and post
it later. Everything I've found is public domain on the web. Are
there any components that I have to buy from Motorola or the cell
provider?

Thank you,

David

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:30:36 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> You can edit the gains table easily using Motokit 1.06 or Bezol's
> P2KTools. Both present graphical sliders to make the adjustments so you
> don't have to foll with hex edits. The default for the handset speaker
> is 0 and can be increased to 8 but beyond 4 it's too loud and distorted.
> If 4 doesn't do it for you try 5 and reduce the volume a bit with the
> phone's volume setting. You can also increase the ringer loudness but
> again, 4 should be the max.
>
> Fromavid
> [email protected]
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've been playing with my new RAZR V3 and the speaker
> > sound during a call is rather dissapointing. I know that
> > my ears/aids are part of the problem. However a friend
> > that had a RAZR was very usable. If there is a speaker
> > phone mode, perhaps that would help.
> >
> > I've read enough here to know about the SEEM edits
> > and some of the other special things that can be adjusted.
> > Is the sound level adjustable beyond its normal max level?
> > I bought the phone at Cingular. I don't mind changing
> > to a generic flash/flex (don't know the proer terms yet)
> > to make these sorts of adjustments.
> >
> > My only complaints are that the sales people had very
> > differing opinions on what to charge me, and that their
> > entire offer of letting me play with one was to let me
> > listen to one of them jabber a sales pitch a few feet
> > away while I tested the headset. That wasn't useful
> > with my aids, so I'll look for one that works better.

No, you don't need to buy anything but you do need the p2k drivers. They
can be d/l'd from the software sections at motox.us, howardforums.com,
or motomodders.net.
Go to Device Manager and delete all the instances of the phone. Check
modems, usb ports and com ports.
Put the drivers in a convenient directory and then plug the phone in.
When the wizard starts select the manual operation and point it to the
drivers.
I've assumed a lot of background skills in this brief description so
let me know if you need more details. I can give you more after I've had
my morning coffee.

Fromavid
[email protected]

> Hello Bruce,
>
> I tried to use P2KTools and a couple other apps. I'm having some
> trouble with the drivers for the V3 and perhaps you know what I'm
> missing. I've tried to follow the various instructions.
>
> I aquired a USB Cable from WalMart. They had a nice coiled up 3'
> USB cable with four adapters of various sizes. One of them was the
> mini-USB that the V3 wanted.
>
> My Windows 2000 Pro system recognized the "Motorola Phone (V3)"
> and failed to install the drivers. The complaint was something about
> a function selection not being chosen. Since there were no options
> for the drivers (motorola_029), I wasn't sure what to do next. I
> read several more forums and haven't found a similar description.
>
> My Windows 2003 Server recognized the phone and installed the
> (motorola_030) drivers from Microsoft Update. There were no errors.
> P2KTools could not find a phone to play with.
>
> I'll write down the full text of the error message again and post
> it later. Everything I've found is public domain on the web. Are
> there any components that I have to buy from Motorola or the cell
> provider?
>
> Thank you,
>
> David
>
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:30:36 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> You can edit the gains table easily using Motokit 1.06 or Bezol's
>> P2KTools. Both present graphical sliders to make the adjustments so
>> you don't have to foll with hex edits. The default for the handset
>> speaker is 0 and can be increased to 8 but beyond 4 it's too loud
>> and distorted. If 4 doesn't do it for you try 5 and reduce the
>> volume a bit with the phone's volume setting. You can also increase
>> the ringer loudness but again, 4 should be the max.
>>
>> Fromavid
>> [email protected]
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've been playing with my new RAZR V3 and the speaker
>>> sound during a call is rather dissapointing. I know that
>>> my ears/aids are part of the problem. However a friend
>>> that had a RAZR was very usable. If there is a speaker
>>> phone mode, perhaps that would help.
>>>
>>> I've read enough here to know about the SEEM edits
>>> and some of the other special things that can be adjusted.
>>> Is the sound level adjustable beyond its normal max level?
>>> I bought the phone at Cingular. I don't mind changing
>>> to a generic flash/flex (don't know the proer terms yet)
>>> to make these sorts of adjustments.
>>>
>>> My only complaints are that the sales people had very
>>> differing opinions on what to charge me, and that their
>>> entire offer of letting me play with one was to let me
>>> listen to one of them jabber a sales pitch a few feet
>>> away while I tested the headset. That wasn't useful
>>> with my aids, so I'll look for one that works better.

Hello Bruce,

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:06:35 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, you don't need to buy anything but you do need the p2k drivers. They
> can be d/l'd from the software sections at motox.us, howardforums.com,
> or motomodders.net.
> Go to Device Manager and delete all the instances of the phone. Check
> modems, usb ports and com ports.
> Put the drivers in a convenient directory and then plug the phone in.
> When the wizard starts select the manual operation and point it to the
> drivers.
> I've assumed a lot of background skills in this brief description so
> let me know if you need more details. I can give you more after I've had
> my morning coffee.

Okay, I see how this can be done. I'm pretty new to installing USB Drivers
so I'm probably making lots of mistakes. I was able to see how to install
a driver and specify a device or not.

P2KManager has two INF files/drivers that can be installed. They are the
MotoUSBPhone.INF and P2K.INF. Thus far I've not figured out what order
all this has to be performed. No matter what I do, P2KManager says that
no phone is attached. I've tried a couple other P2K software. These
are just the names I can remember. I don't have a USB-capable machine
at home.

Okay, when I clear out the system and hook up the phone, what order are
the drivers (MotoUSBPhone.INF and P2K.INF) supposed to be installed?
Should I select the drivers and no selection for the devices?

The default install attempts to install the Motorola USB Modem.
It fails with error 28. A few other installs I've tried with specific
device slections come back with error 24.

Thank you for your help,

David

Download and install P2KCommander. That will install all the drivers for
you. Run the program and plug in the phone and you should be good to go.
I just did that myself and now I can connect the phone to any P2k
program much more easily than before.

Fromavid
[email protected]

> Hello Bruce,
>
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:06:35 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No, you don't need to buy anything but you do need the p2k drivers.
>> They can be d/l'd from the software sections at motox.us,
>> howardforums.com, or motomodders.net.
>> Go to Device Manager and delete all the instances of the phone.
>> Check modems, usb ports and com ports.
>> Put the drivers in a convenient directory and then plug the phone
>> in. When the wizard starts select the manual operation and point it
>> to the drivers.
>> I've assumed a lot of background skills in this brief description so
>> let me know if you need more details. I can give you more after I've
>> had my morning coffee.
>
> Okay, I see how this can be done. I'm pretty new to installing USB
> Drivers so I'm probably making lots of mistakes. I was able to see
> how to install a driver and specify a device or not.
>
> P2KManager has two INF files/drivers that can be installed. They are
> the MotoUSBPhone.INF and P2K.INF. Thus far I've not figured out what
> order all this has to be performed. No matter what I do, P2KManager
> says that no phone is attached. I've tried a couple other P2K
> software. These
> are just the names I can remember. I don't have a USB-capable machine
> at home.
>
> Okay, when I clear out the system and hook up the phone, what order
> are the drivers (MotoUSBPhone.INF and P2K.INF) supposed to be
> installed? Should I select the drivers and no selection for the
> devices?
>
> The default install attempts to install the Motorola USB Modem.
> It fails with error 28. A few other installs I've tried with specific
> device slections come back with error 24.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> David

Hello Bruce,

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 04:36:23 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Download and install P2KCommander. That will install all the drivers for
> you. Run the program and plug in the phone and you should be good to go.
> I just did that myself and now I can connect the phone to any P2k
> program much more easily than before.

I finally managed to get the computer to recognize the phone. I was
performing the various installs out of order. At first I was trying to
install the drivers and then run the program or connect the phone. At
other times I connected the phone and let Windows Plug and Pray do its
magic. Neither of those did anything useful or lasting.

As you stated, but perhaps not clear enough for someone that is used
to how the computer normally does things, the initialization is counter
intuitive.

- in this order only
- erase/uninstall any devices you may hove gotten to install already
- start P2KCommander.exe (this is the crutial step I missed)
- connect phone to PC
- Windows PnP will see the device and start the install new device logic
- tell the installer to use the P2K.INF device
- this installed the MotoUSBModem device and then exited the install
- unplug the phone
- plug in the phone
- Windows PnP will see the device
- tell the installer to use the P2K.INF device (again)
- this installed about eight additional drivers
- P2KCommander showed the connection and v3 in the upper left
- pressing the Refresh button on P2KCommander loaded the file list
- the human shouted with joy at his triumph; the computer did not win
- okay, BruceR and a few others tried to help me

I performed the recommended edits on the gains table and was greeted
with a wonderfully sounding RAZR V3 that works well for me.

Thank you BruceR, xlr8, and all the others out there who have helped
put together the information users need to make their phone fit their
needs instead of the one phone fits all mentality. At least Motorola,
or whoever created the firmware, parameterized some of the features
that allow the resellers (and now perhaps end users) to customize
their phones.

Happy to hear it worked for you! Next you'll be adding new features.
I've got a v3i now and I went to adjust the gains table but the earpiece
was already defaulted to 8! 8 would blow the speaker in the v3 but is
too soft in the v3i. It's the only thing I don't like about it.

Fromavid
[email protected]

> Hello Bruce,
>
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 04:36:23 UTC, "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Download and install P2KCommander. That will install all the drivers
>> for you. Run the program and plug in the phone and you should be
>> good to go. I just did that myself and now I can connect the phone
>> to any P2k program much more easily than before.
>
> I finally managed to get the computer to recognize the phone. I was
> performing the various installs out of order. At first I was trying
> to install the drivers and then run the program or connect the phone.
> At other times I connected the phone and let Windows Plug and Pray do
> its magic. Neither of those did anything useful or lasting.
>
> As you stated, but perhaps not clear enough for someone that is used
> to how the computer normally does things, the initialization is
> counter intuitive.
>
> - in this order only
> - erase/uninstall any devices you may hove gotten to install already
> - start P2KCommander.exe (this is the crutial step I missed)
> - connect phone to PC
> - Windows PnP will see the device and start the install new device
> logic
> - tell the installer to use the P2K.INF device
> - this installed the MotoUSBModem device and then exited the
> install
> - unplug the phone
> - plug in the phone
> - Windows PnP will see the device
> - tell the installer to use the P2K.INF device (again)
> - this installed about eight additional drivers
> - P2KCommander showed the connection and v3 in the upper left
> - pressing the Refresh button on P2KCommander loaded the file list
> - the human shouted with joy at his triumph; the computer did not win
> - okay, BruceR and a few others tried to help me
>
> I performed the recommended edits on the gains table and was greeted
> with a wonderfully sounding RAZR V3 that works well for me.
>
> Thank you BruceR, xlr8, and all the others out there who have helped
> put together the information users need to make their phone fit their
> needs instead of the one phone fits all mentality. At least Motorola,
> or whoever created the firmware, parameterized some of the features
> that allow the resellers (and now perhaps end users) to customize
> their phones.