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Old 03-07-2006, 04:01 PM   #1
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MPT and Outlook sync


First of all, I don't use Outlook and never will. However, it seems
like I can sync the phone (with MPT) to Outlook then sync Outlook to
the Palm Desktop.

I dug out the old Office CD and installed Outlook. I have the MPT menu
item but Sync is grayed out.

In MPT phonebook, I try to open an Outlook contacts and MPT says
Outlook is in "internet only" mode, whatever the heck that is.

I can open Outlook Distress wab file and sync to that, but that's a
dead end (except for all the viruses that seem to have no problem
opening it).

This may be pretty off-topic, but I'd like some advice on how to get
this working.

Thanks,
John


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Old 03-07-2006, 04:30 PM   #2
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Re: MPT and Outlook sync


Spectrum <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
> First of all, I don't use Outlook and never will. However, it seems
> like I can sync the phone (with MPT) to Outlook then sync Outlook to
> the Palm Desktop.


MPT will use it's own database if you don't want to use Outlook, although
it defaults to Outlook. Once it comes up, use "File-New" to create a new
database, which will be a MS-Jet (Access) .mdb file.

I don't know if you can sync the Palm to from an Access database.


> I dug out the old Office CD and installed Outlook. I have the MPT menu
> item but Sync is grayed out.


> In MPT phonebook, I try to open an Outlook contacts and MPT says
> Outlook is in "internet only" mode, whatever the heck that is.


That means it is POP3, and you don't have a local contacts file.
You could add one of those, and then sync to Outlook.


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Old 03-08-2006, 09:02 AM   #3
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Thanks for your time, Clarence. I found, in Outlook, where to turn off
email and make it a workgroup thing, did that, let Office2000 install
that function but it still doesn't work.

MPT still says Outlook's "Internet Mail Only" (I don't know how
internet mail can effect contacts) so won't sync.

Outlook now has the MPT Sync menu item. When I click that, it syncs
with Outlook Distress.

I'm going to give up. I certainly don't have time to try to figure out
Outlook's non-supported/non-documented hidden BS.

Thanks again.
John

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 22:30:09 +0000 (UTC), dold@XReXXMPTXa.usenet.us.com
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>Spectrum <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> First of all, I don't use Outlook and never will. However, it seems
>> like I can sync the phone (with MPT) to Outlook then sync Outlook to
>> the Palm Desktop.

>
>MPT will use it's own database if you don't want to use Outlook, although
>it defaults to Outlook. Once it comes up, use "File-New" to create a new
>database, which will be a MS-Jet (Access) .mdb file.
>
>I don't know if you can sync the Palm to from an Access database.
>
>
>> I dug out the old Office CD and installed Outlook. I have the MPT menu
>> item but Sync is grayed out.

>
>> In MPT phonebook, I try to open an Outlook contacts and MPT says
>> Outlook is in "internet only" mode, whatever the heck that is.

>
>That means it is POP3, and you don't have a local contacts file.
>You could add one of those, and then sync to Outlook.


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Old 03-08-2006, 01:42 PM   #4
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Spectrum <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your time, Clarence. I found, in Outlook, where to turn off
> email and make it a workgroup thing, did that, let Office2000 install
> that function but it still doesn't work.


> MPT still says Outlook's "Internet Mail Only" (I don't know how
> internet mail can effect contacts) so won't sync.


The POP3 thing should be separate from Contacts. I don't know why MPT
would make note of that, unless it is strictly informational.

Can you add a contact in Outlook manually? I think not. You probably need
to create a "personal.pst". You might search help for personal.pst before
you give up.

Or not.

> I'm going to give up. I certainly don't have time to try to figure out
> Outlook's non-supported/non-documented hidden BS.


There is a whole pile of stuff in the built in help, and in the
support.micsoft.com Knowledge Base. It is kind of awkward to set up email
just to use it as a sync between two devices, though.

MPT will write to an Access database. I would explore how to work with
that and the Palm. Or, have you tried using MPT, instead of Outlook, to
start the sync? I don't use the sync item in Outlook (I don't use Outlook
on this machine). But MPT does sync with it. It's just the standard
installation. I added a POP3 connection for some testing, but I don't use
it, normally.

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Old 03-08-2006, 08:25 PM   #5
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Outlook 2000 had two installation modes: Internet Mail Only and
Corporate/Workgroup. The latter lets you use it with Exchange Server and a
Microsoft Mail Post Office. IMO means just POP and IMAP accounts only (as
well as a short-lived O2K feature called Net Folders, which never worked
very well). The two different modes went away as of Outlook 2002 (folks
found it confusing and limited, as there was no reason to prevent C/W users
from having IMAP accounts).

IMO does NOT mean you can't have local contacts. It simply means that you
can't connected to various LAN-based email servers.

Not to confuse matters... but Outlook 2000's contacts can be stored in
several ways. The optimal way is to store them in your .pst file (this .pst
has NOTHING to do with the PST program used for motorola phones).

So, if your contacts are stored in a .pab file, instead, chances are that
MPT might have a problem with it. Another thing to check is to make sure the
MPT works with Outlook 2000 at all.

Note that Outlook Express and Outlook are not related. They're done by
entirely different product groups at Microsoft, and their name similarity is
quite unfortunate. OE is Microsoft's "Internet Mail and News" client simply
given a new name.

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"Spectrum" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> First of all, I don't use Outlook and never will. However, it seems
> like I can sync the phone (with MPT) to Outlook then sync Outlook to
> the Palm Desktop.
>
> I dug out the old Office CD and installed Outlook. I have the MPT menu
> item but Sync is grayed out.
>
> In MPT phonebook, I try to open an Outlook contacts and MPT says
> Outlook is in "internet only" mode, whatever the heck that is.
>
> I can open Outlook Distress wab file and sync to that, but that's a
> dead end (except for all the viruses that seem to have no problem
> opening it).
>
> This may be pretty off-topic, but I'd like some advice on how to get
> this working.
>
> Thanks,
> John



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