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  1. #1
    John Navas
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    <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>

    Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    suggested.

    Researchers found those men who used a phone for four hours or more a
    day had fewer sperm and those they had moved less well and were of
    poorer quality.

    The Ohio study involving 364 men was presented to the American
    Society for Reproductive Medicine in New Orleans.

    But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to blame, as
    they were in use and not near the testes, and it may be being
    sedentary was the cause.

    [MORE]

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    ©®©@®.©®©
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>
    >
    > Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    > suggested.
    >
    > Researchers found those men who used a phone for four hours or more a
    > day had fewer sperm and those they had moved less well and were of
    > poorer quality.
    >
    > The Ohio study involving 364 men was presented to the American
    > Society for Reproductive Medicine in New Orleans.
    >
    > But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to blame, as
    > they were in use and not near the testes, and it may be being
    > sedentary was the cause.
    >
    > [MORE]


    Don't carry your phone in your jock strap!

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  3. #3
    Grant Edwards
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    On 2006-10-24, ©®©@®.©®© <©®©@®.©®©> wrote:

    >> But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to
    >> blame, as they were in use and not near the testes, and it
    >> may be being sedentary was the cause.
    >>
    >> [MORE]

    >
    > Don't carry your phone in your jock strap!


    The point was that the low/bad sperm count didn't correlate to
    _carrying_ a phone. It correlated to _talking_ on a phone. The
    more time spent _talking_ on a phone the worse the sperm count.

    That means that as the time the phone was carried in the pocket
    dropped, sperm count did as well. The conclusion is therefore
    _Do_ carry your phone in your jock strap. And don't take it
    out to talk on it.

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  4. #4
    clifto
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    Grant Edwards wrote:
    > On 2006-10-24, ©®©@®.©®© <©®©@®.©®©> wrote:
    >>> But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to
    >>> blame, as they were in use and not near the testes, and it
    >>> may be being sedentary was the cause.

    >>
    >> Don't carry your phone in your jock strap!

    >
    > The point was that the low/bad sperm count didn't correlate to
    > _carrying_ a phone. It correlated to _talking_ on a phone. The
    > more time spent _talking_ on a phone the worse the sperm count.


    Don't talk on the phone in your jock strap!

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    Dana
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]


    <©®©@®.©®©> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>
    > >
    > > Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    > > suggested.



    Your typical cellphone does not put out enough rf energy to be a health
    risk. Also the frequencies used at the power levels of the typical cellphone
    make them very harmless to human health.
    A few years back, some nut started saying that cell phone use would cause
    brain damage as well because of holding the cell phone by the ear.





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    Grant Edwards
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    On 2006-10-24, clifto <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Grant Edwards wrote:
    >> On 2006-10-24, ©®©@®.©®© <©®©@®.©®©> wrote:
    >>>> But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to
    >>>> blame, as they were in use and not near the testes, and it
    >>>> may be being sedentary was the cause.
    >>>
    >>> Don't carry your phone in your jock strap!

    >>
    >> The point was that the low/bad sperm count didn't correlate to
    >> _carrying_ a phone. It correlated to _talking_ on a phone. The
    >> more time spent _talking_ on a phone the worse the sperm count.

    >
    > Don't talk on the phone in your jock strap!


    With a bluetooth headset you could if you wanted to...

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    visi.com opera!! I wonder why?



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    Mark McIntyre
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    On 24 Oct 2006 19:36:58 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , ©®©@®.©®©
    wrote:

    >John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>
    >>
    >> Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    >> suggested.


    The way I read this was that the sort of person who spends 4h+ on his
    phone each day is the sort of person who never meets women anyway, and
    to whom Nature has deliberately given damaged sperm so they can be
    removed from the gene pool....

    Maybe phones are the new Flash Car....
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    Soruk
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:28:03 -0500, clifto <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Grant Edwards wrote:
    >> On 2006-10-24, ©®©@®.©®© <©®©@®.©®©> wrote:
    >>>> But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to
    >>>> blame, as they were in use and not near the testes, and it
    >>>> may be being sedentary was the cause.
    >>>
    >>> Don't carry your phone in your jock strap!

    >>
    >> The point was that the low/bad sperm count didn't correlate to
    >> _carrying_ a phone. It correlated to _talking_ on a phone. The
    >> more time spent _talking_ on a phone the worse the sperm count.

    >
    >Don't talk on the phone in your jock strap!


    For some people, talking out of their arse is something they can't avoid.

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  9. #9
    David
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]


    "Mark McIntyre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On 24 Oct 2006 19:36:58 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , ©®©@®.©®©
    > wrote:
    >
    >>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>
    >>>
    >>> Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    >>> suggested.


    I suppose I could conduct a study that says the crow of a rooster CAUSES the
    sun to rise. It is a very repeatable experiment and the correlation is very
    strong.

    David




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    ©®©@®.©®©
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>
    >
    > Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    > suggested.
    >
    > Researchers found those men who used a phone for four hours or more a
    > day had fewer sperm and those they had moved less well and were of
    > poorer quality.
    >
    > The Ohio study involving 364 men was presented to the American
    > Society for Reproductive Medicine in New Orleans.
    >
    > But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to blame, as
    > they were in use and not near the testes, and it may be being
    > sedentary was the cause.
    >
    > [MORE]



    Is the the infamous "taliking out of your ass" syndrone?

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  11. #11
    Sarge
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    Re: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    I'll try to keep my balls off the phone. :0)





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    ©®©@®.©®©
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    Re: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    "Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I'll try to keep my balls off the phone. :0)


    Do not use your phone as a jock strap!

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    lobo
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    Re: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]


    <©®©@®.©®©> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > "Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I'll try to keep my balls off the phone. :0)

    >
    > Do not use your phone as a jock strap!
    >

    It's all good as long as it is set to vibrate





  14. #14
    Jeff Liebermann
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    John Navas <[email protected]> hath wroth:

    ><http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6079782.stm>
    >
    > Heavy use of mobile phones may damage men's fertility, a study has
    > suggested.


    Oh-oh. My phone is heavier than most.

    > Researchers found those men who used a phone for four hours or more a
    > day had fewer sperm and those they had moved less well and were of
    > poorer quality.


    Sheesh. Welcome to junk science. Reading the article, what
    apparently was done was interview 364 men in India and ask them how
    many hours per day they used their cell phone. Of course, everyone
    lied, but that's acceptable if everyone lies equally with the same
    bias. The survey was also preformed at fertility clinics in India
    which is a rather limited sample of the general population. They
    could easily have asked what was their favorite color, and conjured a
    similar worthless correlation.

    > The Ohio study involving 364 men was presented to the American
    > Society for Reproductive Medicine in New Orleans.


    Ohio? New Orleans? From the article, I read:
    The team from the Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Ohio
    tested the sperm of 364 men who were being treated at
    fertility clinics in Mumbai, India, with their partners.
    The study may have been funded and run from Ohio, but the sample came
    from Mumbai, India.

    > But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to blame, as
    > they were in use and not near the testes, and it may be being
    > sedentary was the cause.


    Sure? What type of person yacks on the phone for 4+ hours per day?
    Probably an unemployed loafer with a sedentary lifestyle and
    independent means. Busy and active people don't have time to talk
    that long. Presumably, they also have an unlimited rate plan and a
    lifetime supply of batteries implying that they have more money to
    burn than the light users. Of course, since they have an unlimited
    plan, they tend to yack more. Since they're all at a fertility
    clinic, I presume they're all 20-30 years old.

    I think a more appropriate headline would be: "Young, affluent and
    unemployed users, with damaged sperm, tend to talk more". Or perhaps:
    "Cell phones used for birth control".

    Of course the traditional tag line includes "more research is
    necessary" which is the standard hint that a research grant is being
    solicited.

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  15. #15
    John Navas
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    Re: NEWS: Heavy mobile use 'damages sperm' [not a joke]

    On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:25:40 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >> But a UK expert said it was unlikely the phones were to blame, as
    >> they were in use and not near the testes, and it may be being
    >> sedentary was the cause.

    >
    >Sure? What type of person yacks on the phone for 4+ hours per day?
    >Probably an unemployed loafer with a sedentary lifestyle and
    >independent means.


    Or a phone sex operator.

    >Busy and active people don't have time to talk
    >that long.


    You must not be a parent -- my daughter easily exceeds that, as do most
    of her friends.

    >Presumably, they also have an unlimited rate plan


    MetroPCS.

    >and a
    >lifetime supply of batteries implying that they have more money to
    >burn than the light users.


    Rechargeable.

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