razr and MPT

Hello group,

My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but just
says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I don't
have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version of
the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with it?
If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I just
have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I don't
know for sure.

Thanks for the help,

John

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In article
<[email protected]>, John
<[email protected]> wrote:

> My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
> computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but just
> says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I don't
> have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version of
> the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with it?
> If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I just
> have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I don't
> know for sure.

Verizon cripples their phones so that you have to pay them to transfer
ringtones and wallpaper.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:16:51 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
<[email protected]> wrote in
<131120060516515265%[email protected]>:

>In article
><[email protected]>, John
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
>> computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but just
>> says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I don't
>> have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version of
>> the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with it?
>> If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I just
>> have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I don't
>> know for sure.
>
>Verizon cripples their phones so that you have to pay them to transfer
>ringtones and wallpaper.

Verizon actually just limits the available Bluetooth profiles.
You can use cable instead at no cost other than the cable,
which is very cheaply available on eBay.

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"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello group,
>
> My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
> computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but just
> says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I
> don't
> have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version of
> the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with
> it?
> If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I just
> have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I don't
> know for sure.

MPT definitely works with my RAZR V3m using Bluetooth. I use it to sync
contacts and appointments. Verizon blocks other functions, such as
transferring wallpaper images, but this doesn't prevent MPT from working.

In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Verizon actually just limits the available Bluetooth profiles.
> You can use cable instead at no cost other than the cable,
> which is very cheaply available on eBay.

That's a nice way of saying "cripple." The manufacturer builds in the
functionality and Verizon cripples it.

With Bluetooth, for example, you can only use it with a headset - you
can't transfer ringtones and wallpaper or synch addresses/calendar with
a computer.

That's pretty ****ty.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:39:13 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
<[email protected]> wrote in
<131120061839137278%[email protected]>:

>In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Verizon actually just limits the available Bluetooth profiles.
>> You can use cable instead at no cost other than the cable,
>> which is very cheaply available on eBay.
>
>That's a nice way of saying "cripple."

I disagree.

>The manufacturer builds in the
>functionality and Verizon cripples it.

Verizon chooses what functionality it thinks appropriate for the market,
just like other carriers. Don't like those choices? Then go with a
different carrier. That's how a free market works.

>With Bluetooth, for example, you can only use it with a headset - you
>can't transfer ringtones and wallpaper or synch addresses/calendar with
>a computer.

So use a cable.

>That's pretty ****ty.

Again, I disagree.

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Can you still transfer ringtones. Or is the blocked also? Thats pretty much
what he wants to use MPT for is to transfer ringtones and wallpaper images.
If you can use the bluetooth then I will have to tell him the get a
bluetooth adapter.

Thanks,
John

"VicTek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello group,
> >
> > My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
> > computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but
just
> > says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I
> > don't
> > have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version
of
> > the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with
> > it?
> > If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I just
> > have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I don't
> > know for sure.
>
> MPT definitely works with my RAZR V3m using Bluetooth. I use it to sync
> contacts and appointments. Verizon blocks other functions, such as
> transferring wallpaper images, but this doesn't prevent MPT from working.
>
>

He is using a cable. I wouldn't think it has to be the motorola brand cable.
A usb to mini usb cable should be the same. Anyways if MPT will work with
the razr v3m then he must not have the driver installed correctly. Any other
thoughts if that isn't it?

Thanks,
John

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:16:51 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <131120060516515265%[email protected]>:
>
> >In article
> ><[email protected]>, John
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
> >> computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but
just
> >> says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I
don't
> >> have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version
of
> >> the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with
it?
> >> If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I
just
> >> have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I
don't
> >> know for sure.
> >
> >Verizon cripples their phones so that you have to pay them to transfer
> >ringtones and wallpaper.
>
> Verizon actually just limits the available Bluetooth profiles.
> You can use cable instead at no cost other than the cable,
> which is very cheaply available on eBay.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

If thats the case, do you know if you can flex the phone to allow the
transfer of ringtones and wallpapers?
Thanks,
John

"Randall Ainsworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:131120060516515265%[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>, John
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
> > computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but
just
> > says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I
don't
> > have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version
of
> > the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with
it?
> > If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I just
> > have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I don't
> > know for sure.
>
> Verizon cripples their phones so that you have to pay them to transfer
> ringtones and wallpaper.

He may not have installed the correct drivers. See my periodic post
here on that.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:40:50 GMT, "John" <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>He is using a cable. I wouldn't think it has to be the motorola brand cable.
>A usb to mini usb cable should be the same. Anyways if MPT will work with
>the razr v3m then he must not have the driver installed correctly. Any other
>thoughts if that isn't it?
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:16:51 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
>> <[email protected]> wrote in
>> <131120060516515265%[email protected]>:
>>
>> >In article
>> ><[email protected]>, John
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> My friend has a razr from verizon wireless. He installed MPT 4.0 on his
>> >> computer and followed the instructions and the software comes up but
>just
>> >> says initializing. I also have a razr (not verizon) and MPT 4.0 and I
>don't
>> >> have any problems with it. I know people don't like the verizon version
>of
>> >> the razr, but did verizon mess with the phone so you can't use MPT with
>it?
>> >> If not, what else could be wrong? Since I can't get to his house, I
>just
>> >> have to take his word that the drivers were setup correctly, but I
>don't
>> >> know for sure.
>> >
>> >Verizon cripples their phones so that you have to pay them to transfer
>> >ringtones and wallpaper.
>>
>> Verizon actually just limits the available Bluetooth profiles.
>> You can use cable instead at no cost other than the cable,
>> which is very cheaply available on eBay.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
>> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
>

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In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Verizon chooses what functionality it thinks appropriate for the market,
> just like other carriers. Don't like those choices? Then go with a
> different carrier. That's how a free market works.

They cripple functionality so that you have to pay them to transfer
photos, ringtones, and wallpaper. No other major carrier cripples their
hardware.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:25:29 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
<[email protected]> wrote in
<141120060525296231%[email protected]>:

>In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Verizon chooses what functionality it thinks appropriate for the market,
>> just like other carriers. Don't like those choices? Then go with a
>> different carrier. That's how a free market works.
>
>They cripple functionality so that you have to pay them to transfer
>photos, ringtones, and wallpaper. No other major carrier cripples their
>hardware.

Simply not true.

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"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Can you still transfer ringtones. Or is the blocked also? Thats pretty
> much
> what he wants to use MPT for is to transfer ringtones and wallpaper
> images.
> If you can use the bluetooth then I will have to tell him the get a
> bluetooth adapter.
>
> Thanks,
> John

It doesn't matter how you access the phone, i.e. BT or cable - the same
functions are blocked. The easiest way to unblock many of the phone's
features is to use the software from Cellcables.com (with a cable, not
BT)...

http://www.cellcables.com/motorola-v...pers-games.php

You can hack the phone yourself with instructions from www.Howardforums.com
if you can find them and figure them out.

In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >They cripple functionality so that you have to pay them to transfer
> >photos, ringtones, and wallpaper. No other major carrier cripples their
> >hardware.
>
> Simply not true.

Then tell me why Verizon cripples functionality if not to make more
money from unsuspecting rubes.

And name me another major carrier that cripples their hardware.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:31:27 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
<[email protected]> wrote in
<141120061831277886%[email protected]>:

>In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >They cripple functionality so that you have to pay them to transfer
>> >photos, ringtones, and wallpaper. No other major carrier cripples their
>> >hardware.
>>
>> Simply not true.
>
>Then tell me why Verizon cripples functionality if not to make more
>money from unsuspecting rubes.

Most likely security and prevention of theft. (This has been covered ad
nauseum -- use Google Groups for more detail.)

>And name me another major carrier that cripples their hardware.

All carriers make choices on which features are enabled and supported.
For example, Cingular disables network selection on devices used on its
network.

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