REQ: Motorola Mobile Phone Tools 4.0 (iso or dmg)

Need Phone Tools for iDEN hybrid (ic502 Nextel/Sprint)

If anyone has, please post in iso or dmg or Toast

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ebay, less than 5 bucks.

"none" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Need Phone Tools for iDEN hybrid (ic502 Nextel/Sprint)
>
> If anyone has, please post in iso or dmg or Toast

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:32:03 -0500, none <[email protected]> wrote in
<290320072032038342%[email protected]>:

>Need Phone Tools for iDEN hybrid (ic502 Nextel/Sprint)
>
>If anyone has, please post in iso or dmg or Toast

That would of course by unlawful.
Do you also shoplift, or only steal software?
MPT is available legitimately at low cost from shopoem.com

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Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence from
other software vendors).

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:29:04 -0700, "Tom R" <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>ebay, less than 5 bucks.
>
>"none" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:290320072032038342%[email protected]...
>> Need Phone Tools for iDEN hybrid (ic502 Nextel/Sprint)
>>
>> If anyone has, please post in iso or dmg or Toast

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:32:03 -0500, none <[email protected]> wrote in
> <290320072032038342%[email protected]>:
>
>>Need Phone Tools for iDEN hybrid (ic502 Nextel/Sprint)
>>
>>If anyone has, please post in iso or dmg or Toast
>
> That would of course by unlawful.
> Do you also shoplift, or only steal software?
> MPT is available legitimately at low cost from shopoem.com

To the OP, there are other sources such as Ebay where you can obtain it
at low cost. You do NOT need the latest version, it will update itself
to the latest.

On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 12:10:55 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:32:03 -0500, none <[email protected]> wrote in
>> <290320072032038342%[email protected]>:
>>
>>>Need Phone Tools for iDEN hybrid (ic502 Nextel/Sprint)
>>>
>>>If anyone has, please post in iso or dmg or Toast
>>
>> That would of course by unlawful.
>> Do you also shoplift, or only steal software?
>> MPT is available legitimately at low cost from shopoem.com
>
>To the OP, there are other sources such as Ebay where you can obtain it
>at low cost. You do NOT need the latest version, it will update itself
>to the latest.

Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence from
other software vendors).

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence
> from other software vendors).

You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's untrue
now.

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:19:52 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence
>> from other software vendors).
>
>You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's untrue
>now.

Tip of the iceberg:

Symantec claws $100k from Calif. eBay pirates
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/23/ebay_traders_symantec_piracy_settlement/>

Indiana man jailed for selling counterfeit software on eBay
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/29/ebay_software_counterfeiter_jailed/>

California man busted for software piracy
<http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/01/counterfeit_arrest/>

eBay anti-virus pirates sued
<http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/05/17/ebay_pirates_sued/>

Microsoft hunts pirate auctioneers
<http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/16/microsoft_pirate_auctions/>
Microsoft goes for eBay pirates
<http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/10/31/ms_pirates_ebay/>

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:19:52 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>>> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence
>>> from other software vendors).
>>
>>You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's
>>untrue now.
>
> Tip of the iceberg:

A *VERY* small percent.

I'm not inclined to argue, John, you're entitiled to believe any wrong
thing you care to but you probably shouldn't push your beliefs on
others.

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:11:26 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:19:52 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
>> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>>>> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence
>>>> from other software vendors).
>>>
>>>You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's
>>>untrue now.
>>
>> Tip of the iceberg:
>
>A *VERY* small percent.
>
>I'm not inclined to argue, John, you're entitiled to believe any wrong
>thing you care to but you probably shouldn't push your beliefs on
>others.

I suggest you take your own advice.

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:11:26 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:19:52 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
>> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>>>> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on evidence
>>>> from other software vendors).
>>>
>>>You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's
>>>untrue now.
>>
>> Tip of the iceberg:
>
>A *VERY* small percent.

Proof?

As they say, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is."

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>>>>> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on
>>>>> evidence from other software vendors).
>>>>
>>>>You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's
>>>>untrue now.
>>>
>>> Tip of the iceberg:
>>
>>A *VERY* small percent.
>>
>>I'm not inclined to argue, John, you're entitiled to believe any
>>wrong thing you care to but you probably shouldn't push your
>>beliefs on others.
>
> I suggest you take your own advice.

Ebay has sold more than 260,000 items in a single day, your few
examples are statistically insignificant. There are rarely problems,
most retail stores have a higher percent of complaints than Ebay.

Summary = you're wrong about Ebay.

End of discussion.

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:06:48 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>>>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>>>>>> illegitimate as downloading from the Internet (based on
>>>>>> evidence from other software vendors).
>>>>>
>>>>>You've said that before, John, it was untrue before and it's
>>>>>untrue now.
>>>>
>>>> Tip of the iceberg:
>>>
>>>A *VERY* small percent.
>>>
>>>I'm not inclined to argue, John, you're entitiled to believe any
>>>wrong thing you care to but you probably shouldn't push your
>>>beliefs on others.
>>
>> I suggest you take your own advice.
>
>Ebay has sold more than 260,000 items in a single day, your few
>examples are statistically insignificant. There are rarely problems,
>most retail stores have a higher percent of complaints than Ebay.
>
>Summary = you're wrong about Ebay.

What percentage of those items are commercial software, and what
percentage of those do you _know_ (not guess) to be legitimate?
In short, you've not presented any real proof, much less countered
my examples, nor have you shown any real way to tell the difference
between legitimate and illegitimate software auctions.

>End of discussion.

You are of course welcome to make whatever statements you want, no
matter how unfounded. It's well known in the industry that counterfeit
software is a real problem on eBay, and there's simply no way of knowing
in advance what's legitimate and what's not.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:06:48 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:

>>Ebay has sold more than 260,000 items in a single day, your few
>>examples are statistically insignificant. There are rarely
>>problems, most retail stores have a higher percent of complaints
>>than Ebay.
>>
>>Summary = you're wrong about Ebay.
>
> What percentage of those items are commercial software, and what
> percentage of those do you _know_ (not guess) to be legitimate?

Most of the items that are commercial software are legitimate. I need
present no evidence, ebay's reputation speaks for itself They police
their vendors fairly well and people buy there because they're a proven
source of legitimate software. You're the one who's making the
ridiculous claim that "a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
illegitimate as downloading from the Internet."

BTW, I've downloaded WinXP Pro, WinXP Home, all versions of Vista,
Office 2003, Office 2007, MapPoint, etc. from the internet, all
completely legitimate so again you're showing you have little knowledge
of what you're saying.

> In short, you've not presented any real proof, much less countered
> my examples

You have presented some very shaky examples showing that ebay has
had some legitimate complaints, no real proof from you and certainly
nothing that needs countering.

> nor have you shown any real way to tell the difference between
> legitimate and illegitimate software auctions.

It's difficult for some but many ebay buyers have an IQ higher than
room temperature and can easily check on a seller simply by examining
feedback.

> You are of course welcome to make whatever statements you want, no
> matter how unfounded.

You're the one who's made unfounded statements, I'm simply calling
you on them.

> It's well known in the industry that counterfeit software is a
> real problem on eBay,

Another untrue statement.

Give it up, Navas, you're sounding like someone with a personal grudge.

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:56:53 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:06:48 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
>> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>>Ebay has sold more than 260,000 items in a single day, your few
>>>examples are statistically insignificant. There are rarely
>>>problems, most retail stores have a higher percent of complaints
>>>than Ebay.
>>>
>>>Summary = you're wrong about Ebay.
>>
>> What percentage of those items are commercial software, and what
>> percentage of those do you _know_ (not guess) to be legitimate?
>
>Most of the items that are commercial software are legitimate. I need
>present no evidence, ebay's reputation speaks for itself They police
>their vendors fairly well and people buy there because they're a proven
>source of legitimate software.

If you have no evidence, then you have no case, and (thus far at least)
you have no real evidence, and thus no case.

>You're the one who's making the
>ridiculous claim that "a high percentage of eBay sales are probably as
>illegitimate as downloading from the Internet."

In fact I've provided ample evidence that many eBay software sales are
illegitimate, whereas you've provided no evidence at all. The only open
question is how bad the problem is.

>BTW, I've downloaded WinXP Pro, WinXP Home, all versions of Vista,
>Office 2003, Office 2007, MapPoint, etc. from the internet, all
>completely legitimate so again you're showing you have little knowledge
>of what you're saying.

Irrelevant to the issue at hand.

>> In short, you've not presented any real proof, much less countered
>> my examples
>
>You have presented some very shaky examples showing that ebay has
>had some legitimate complaints, no real proof from you and certainly
>nothing that needs countering.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

>> nor have you shown any real way to tell the difference between
>> legitimate and illegitimate software auctions.
>
>It's difficult for some but many ebay buyers have an IQ higher than
>room temperature and can easily check on a seller simply by examining
>feedback.

That has nothing to do with the issue of legitimacy.

>> You are of course welcome to make whatever statements you want, no
>> matter how unfounded.
>
>You're the one who's made unfounded statements, I'm simply calling
>you on them.

You're actually just making unsubstantiated claims.

>> It's well known in the industry that counterfeit software is a
>> real problem on eBay,
>
>Another untrue statement.

Contradicted by the evidence I've already presented.

>Give it up, Navas, you're sounding like someone with a personal grudge.

Since you have no case, it's not terribly surprising that you're
stooping to ad hominem, but all that really does is concede the debate
to me. Thank you.

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