Re: Internet using a V551as a modem

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul H
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem

> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
> with my older XP Pro laptop.

Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
wiki below, direct link:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration

> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
> service I use infrequently.

Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
problem in any event.

> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul

It actually is essentially the same.

> My XP connection looks like this:
> [SNIP]

Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

Thank you John. But Vista does not start a wizard like XP Pro. Vista does
want an ID and password. Where would I find those for Cingular as my ISP?
Are they standard for Everyone, or specific to each subscriber?

===================

"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul H
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem

> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
> with my older XP Pro laptop.

Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
wiki below, direct link:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration

> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
> service I use infrequently.

Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
problem in any event.

> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul

It actually is essentially the same.

> My XP connection looks like this:
> [SNIP]

Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

This is all covered is the link I provided.
Read and follow it carefully.

On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:35:46 -0500, "Paul H"
<NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
<%8v3i.316322$7g3.36656@newsfe14.phx>:

>Thank you John. But Vista does not start a wizard like XP Pro. Vista does
>want an ID and password. Where would I find those for Cingular as my ISP?
>Are they standard for Everyone, or specific to each subscriber?
>
>===================
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:r5ts439cvnv7g42qfhc77bls4na2dko62b@4ax.com.. .
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul H
>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
>Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem
>
>> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
>> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
>> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
>> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
>> with my older XP Pro laptop.
>
>Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
>essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
>Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
>wiki below, direct link:
>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration
>
>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>> service I use infrequently.
>
>Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
>problem in any event.
>
>> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
>> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul
>
>It actually is essentially the same.
>
>> My XP connection looks like this:
>> [SNIP]
>
>Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
>properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

John, you rock! It works! Thank you!

=====================

"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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This is all covered is the link I provided.
Read and follow it carefully.

On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:35:46 -0500, "Paul H"
<NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
<%8v3i.316322$7g3.36656@newsfe14.phx>:

>Thank you John. But Vista does not start a wizard like XP Pro. Vista does
>want an ID and password. Where would I find those for Cingular as my ISP?
>Are they standard for Everyone, or specific to each subscriber?
>
>===================
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:r5ts439cvnv7g42qfhc77bls4na2dko62b@4ax.com.. .
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul H
>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
>Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem
>
>> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
>> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
>> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
>> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
>> with my older XP Pro laptop.
>
>Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
>essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
>Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
>wiki below, direct link:
>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration
>
>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>> service I use infrequently.
>
>Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
>problem in any event.
>
>> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
>> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul
>
>It actually is essentially the same.
>
>> My XP connection looks like this:
>> [SNIP]
>
>Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
>properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

John, you rock! It works! Thank you!

=====================

"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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This is all covered is the link I provided.
Read and follow it carefully.

On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:35:46 -0500, "Paul H"
<NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
<%8v3i.316322$7g3.36656@newsfe14.phx>:

>Thank you John. But Vista does not start a wizard like XP Pro. Vista does
>want an ID and password. Where would I find those for Cingular as my ISP?
>Are they standard for Everyone, or specific to each subscriber?
>
>===================
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:r5ts439cvnv7g42qfhc77bls4na2dko62b@4ax.com.. .
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul H
>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
>Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem
>
>> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
>> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
>> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
>> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
>> with my older XP Pro laptop.
>
>Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
>essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
>Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
>wiki below, direct link:
>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration
>
>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>> service I use infrequently.
>
>Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
>problem in any event.
>
>> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
>> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul
>
>It actually is essentially the same.
>
>> My XP connection looks like this:
>> [SNIP]
>
>Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
>properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

John Navas wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul H
>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>> service I use infrequently.
>
> Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
> problem in any event.

Cingular is indeed clamping down on data usage. This has already been well
discussed and I am not going play your game of denial.

You now have my permission to have the last word.

That's great! Thanks for letting me know.

On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:55:45 -0500, "Paul H"
<NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
<Vkw3i.110605$Fk2.10460@newsfe08.phx>:

>
>John, you rock! It works! Thank you!
>
>=====================
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:mf1t439jd9jbv1u8gj9mhvp0o08coi9rh9@4ax.com.. .
>This is all covered is the link I provided.
>Read and follow it carefully.
>
>On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:35:46 -0500, "Paul H"
><NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
><%8v3i.316322$7g3.36656@newsfe14.phx>:
>
>>Thank you John. But Vista does not start a wizard like XP Pro. Vista does
>>want an ID and password. Where would I find those for Cingular as my ISP?
>>Are they standard for Everyone, or specific to each subscriber?
>>
>>===================
>>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:r5ts439cvnv7g42qfhc77bls4na2dko62b@4ax.com. ..
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Paul H
>>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
>>Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem
>>
>>> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
>>> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
>>> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
>>> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
>>> with my older XP Pro laptop.
>>
>>Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
>>essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
>>Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
>>wiki below, direct link:
>>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration
>>
>>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>>> service I use infrequently.
>>
>>Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
>>problem in any event.
>>
>>> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
>>> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul
>>
>>It actually is essentially the same.
>>
>>> My XP connection looks like this:
>>> [SNIP]
>>
>>Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
>>properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:10:54 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <2sE3i.11339$Ut6.493@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Paul H
>>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>>> service I use infrequently.
>>
>> Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
>> problem in any event.
>
>Cingular is indeed clamping down on data usage. This has already been well
>discussed and I am not going play your game of denial.

Discussed with a few unverified anecdotes, but not shown to be true.

>You now have my permission to have the last word.

In other words, you don't have any proof.

I continue to use large amounts of data with no complaint from Cingular.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

John Navas wrote:
> In other words, you don't have any proof.
>
> I continue to use large amounts of data with no complaint from Cingular.

I have seen the bills with my own eyes and made the calls to Cingular myself.

And that is proof as it meets YOUR criteria for proof that you have used in
the past...your own experience.

Drew wrote:
> I transferred around 10GB while vacationing away for a couple weeks in
> Charlotte South Carolina (3G). Need I scan in my bill I just
> receieved? Proof enough for you, DTC?

I didn't say everyone was getting hit by a within any specific time frame,
nor did I say how long it takes Cingular to figure it out. One of the bills
I looked at had several months of data usage, but no extra charges. Then
the last bill I looked at...it had data charges.

Now I have to solve some annoying Vista problem - when I connect with the
cell phone, my large emails or long web sites scroll wildly up and down
sometimes, for no apparent reason. But not your problem. Thanks again.

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That's great! Thanks for letting me know.

On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:55:45 -0500, "Paul H"
<NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
<Vkw3i.110605$Fk2.10460@newsfe08.phx>:

>
>John, you rock! It works! Thank you!
>
>=====================
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:mf1t439jd9jbv1u8gj9mhvp0o08coi9rh9@4ax.com.. .
>This is all covered is the link I provided.
>Read and follow it carefully.
>
>On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:35:46 -0500, "Paul H"
><NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in
><%8v3i.316322$7g3.36656@newsfe14.phx>:
>
>>Thank you John. But Vista does not start a wizard like XP Pro. Vista
>>does
>>want an ID and password. Where would I find those for Cingular as my ISP?
>>Are they standard for Everyone, or specific to each subscriber?
>>
>>===================
>>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:r5ts439cvnv7g42qfhc77bls4na2dko62b@4ax.com. ..
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Paul H
>>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:45 PM
>>Subject: Internet using a V551as a modem
>>
>>> I still use my Motorola V551 as a modem when I'm on infrequent stays
>>> at hotels where internet is unreasonably costly. I do very brief
>>> email sessions - maybe 5 minutes, a few times a day. I cannot get
>>> the same connection with my new Vista Home Premium laptop that I do
>>> with my older XP Pro laptop.
>>
>>Then you don't have it set up the same way -- Dial-Up Networking is
>>essentially the same in Vista as it is in earlier versions of Windows.
>>Your best bet is to start over, following the MEdia instructions in the
>>wiki below, direct link:
>>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingula..._Configuration
>>
>>> Yes, I know Cingular is dropping
>>> tethered connections to computers. I'll stop when they consider me
>>> abusive (unlikely), and then I'll stop paying every month for a
>>> service I use infrequently.
>>
>>Cingular isn't actually doing anything, and it's not related to your
>>problem in any event.
>>
>>> The Vista equivalent properties has 5 tabs, not 2, and wants an ID
>>> and password - issues not occurring in XP. Help, anyone? TIA, Paul
>>
>>It actually is essentially the same.
>>
>>> My XP connection looks like this:
>>> [SNIP]
>>
>>Those images are of _shortcut_ properties, not the Dial-Up Networking
>>properties. Again, you need to follow the MEdia instructions for XP.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

On Sun, 20 May 2007 21:09:42 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <qO24i.13008$j63.11717@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> In other words, you don't have any proof.
>>
>> I continue to use large amounts of data with no complaint from Cingular.
>
>I have seen the bills with my own eyes and made the calls to Cingular myself.
>
>And that is proof as it meets YOUR criteria for proof that you have used in
>the past...your own experience.

I've investigated a number of such reports, and all were due to billing
system errors that were cleared up with a bit of work and persistence,
which isn't terribly surprising, since I've gotten such huge bills
myself due to billing system errors, and was able to get them reversed
with a bit of work and persistence, plus getting additional credit for
the grief I experienced.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

John Navas wrote:
> I've investigated a number of such reports, and all were due to billing
> system errors that were cleared up with a bit of work and persistence,

I've investigated a number also, and they were not billing errors.

On Thu, 24 May 2007 11:04:37 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <9je5i.9700$296.7288@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink. net>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> I've investigated a number of such reports, and all were due to billing
>> system errors that were cleared up with a bit of work and persistence,
>
>I've investigated a number also, and they were not billing errors.

I'll believe it when I see it. No offense intended.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

John Navas wrote:
> I'll believe it when I see it. No offense intended.

Keep me posted on the Extended GSM deployments.