Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools

The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then
> I got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...

A friend once asked a tech support person, "How's the weather in
Bombay?" His reply was, "Oh, no, sir, I am in Calcutta!"

There are a bunch of people working tech support in Indian call centers
who speak very good English and who are very understandable and
knowledgeable but I never seem to get one of those... <sigh>




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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:33:19 -0600, "bruceR" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Go to www.howardforums.com and www.motox.info to learn how to uncripple your
>phone. It's not hard to do and you'll get what you paid for. While others
>here may disagree, you bought a phone that Motorola spent millions
>advertising as having certain capabilities and functions and you had a
>reasonable expectation that you would get what was advertised. The fact that
>Verizon disables - I call it cripples - the phone is certainly whithin their
>rights, but they have a duty to let you know that their product is not as
>fully featured and capable as the version Motorola advertises. Sounds like
>a good class action suit!

I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if I
would have found a straight forward step by step set of instructions
to do it.
For the most part after spending way to much time reading there I just
found opinions there.
Someone would say try this. Another guy would say he did but it didn't
work.
If I could find a direct step by step list of what to do, and what
programs I needed to do it I would try.

I finally just burned out reading all the crap there and gave up on
doing anything...

Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent to
www.howardforums.com. Never have seen anyone come back and say
"thanks, that worked great"...

I feel I am as good as anyone when it comes to tampering with things
like this. Not afraid to try, that's for sure.

I never really found anything there I thought was worth trying.



>"The Dr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:50:20 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>The Dr. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>WGD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW
>>>>>>>pkg!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest
>>>>>>version of
>>>>>>MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The
>>>>>>older
>>>>>>versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
>>>>>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If this is a verizon phone? If yes I had the same situation. I found
>>>> out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
>>>> verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
>>>> crap.
>>>> I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
>>>> -- --
>>>
>>>Yes, it's a Verizon phone. I complained to Motorola Technical Support
>>>and was allowed to download a version of Motorola Phone Tools that DID
>>>support the RAZR. I was then able to set up my contacts list and
>>>calendar using my computer.
>>>
>>>If I had known then what I know now, I would have signed up with a
>>>different service provider. I had been with Verizon Wireless for years
>>>both with and without a contract and had no problems with the service.
>>>It was only after I bought two new RAZRs and signed a new contract that
>>>I found out about some of the problems in dealing with Verizon.
>>>
>>>I have no interest in watching TV or listening to music using my phone!
>>>I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly
>>>just hurt my ears!
>>
>> Same here. I have been with verizon several years back into the Air
>> Touch days...
>> Being a long time customer means **** to them...
>>
>> I thought it would be cute if I could make an mp3 I like into a ring
>> tone. Or easily move a few pictures back and forth from the computer
>> to the phone.
>>
>> Nothing I had in mind worked. The only way I could make it happen was
>> to use the blood sucking Vcast. Not a chance.
>>
>> I was able to do a little of what I wanted by putting things on the
>> memory card and renaming the files.
>>
>> But I was and still am really disappointed with verizon for selling me
>> such a crippled piece of **** and not telling me till I bought it.
>> And with motorola for making this neutered piece of crap for verizon.
>>
>> I guess any whore will swallow if the price is right...
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:35:26 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Country Boy wrote:
>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>> not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>> and still no luck.
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>WGD wrote:
>>>
>>>>Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>>>>(though the V3c is in its list)
>>>>
>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>>
>>>>Tks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
>Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
>can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>download the version with RAZR V3m support.

OK... I did this. I was emailed a link that was good for 5 days or 5
download attempts. I downloaded and installed (4.5.6aeng.exe)

It sorta works... It will let you at anything that verizon has not
figured out how to charge you for yet. And a couple things they can
charge you for...

With these new tools I can...

Sync.
Make changes in the phone book.
Make changes in the calendar.
Make a text message. (Still haven't figured out what that's good for)
Make an Internet connection (verizon would love you to do this)

These new phone tools will NOT let you access the directories on the
memory card.

I know version 4.0 had something that made me think if the phone
weren't crippled you could do a little in that area. Not sure what
the selections were called. Something like (my photos or my music)

These new tools let you do a little more. But certainly not all you
could.

I have seen what you can do on one that is not crippled. If you want
you can move photos and music from the computer to the phone. Make any
mp3 a ring tone... Just crap like that. Not really useful, Just fun
stuff...

The stuff verizon has 3 of the 4 arrows locked into Vcast crap for.

Any move you make with this phone they want to suck additional money
out of you to do it.

OK... This is turning from useful information into a rant about how
verizon sucks. And everyone already knows that... Sorry.

Dr.
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The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote:

> I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
> www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if
> I would have found a straight forward step by step set of
> instructions to do it.
> For the most part after spending way to much time reading there I
> just found opinions there.
> Someone would say try this. Another guy would say he did but it
> didn't work.
> If I could find a direct step by step list of what to do, and what
> programs I needed to do it I would try.
>
> I finally just burned out reading all the crap there and gave up
> on doing anything...
>
> Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent
> to www.howardforums.com. Never have seen anyone come back and say
> "thanks, that worked great"...
>
> I feel I am as good as anyone when it comes to tampering with
> things like this. Not afraid to try, that's for sure.
>
> I never really found anything there I thought was worth trying.

Apparently you never really looked. Your post above proves it, go back
and try again. It's very simple and easy to do and I'm VERY thankful
to those who pointed me to Howard forums.

Start here and don't hesitate to follow links:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122273


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In article <[email protected]>,
The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent to
> www.howardforums.com. Never have seen anyone come back and say
> "thanks, that worked great"...


Okay, let me be the first. <G> I did go to howardforums, found where to
buy some "uncrippling" software, followed the directions and now have
many of the advertised capabilities of my Razr V3m back where they
belong -- with me. I bought a CD from cellcables.com -- worked like a
charm. HTH.

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The Dr. wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:35:26 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Country Boy wrote:
>>
>>>I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>>>not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>>>and still no luck.
<snip>

> So far so good... I did call. They did email me a link to download
> what should work with this V3m.
> I have not tried it yet. But will let the results be known, good or
> bad...
>
> Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then I
> got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...

Remember that a lot of "support" is now outsourced to India. A few
Indians, generally British educated, speak better English than we do.
Most of them speak with an accent that tells you instantly that they are
not native speakers. I find that a lot of them are difficult to
understand! Of course I have a hearing aid in each ear and sometimes
have trouble understanding even native speakers. . . .

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:12:04 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The Dr. wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:35:26 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Country Boy wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>>>>not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>>>>and still no luck.
><snip>
>
>> So far so good... I did call. They did email me a link to download
>> what should work with this V3m.
>> I have not tried it yet. But will let the results be known, good or
>> bad...
>>
>> Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then I
>> got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...
>
>Remember that a lot of "support" is now outsourced to India. A few
>Indians, generally British educated, speak better English than we do.
>Most of them speak with an accent that tells you instantly that they are
>not native speakers. I find that a lot of them are difficult to
>understand! Of course I have a hearing aid in each ear and sometimes
>have trouble understanding even native speakers. . . .

I live right in the middle of the U.S. So I know what a Mexican trying
to speak English sounds like. And that's what she sounded like to
me.
I said "what'd you say" so many times I was starting to feel bad...
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:11:23 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
>> www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if
>> I would have found a straight forward step by step set of
>> instructions to do it.
>> For the most part after spending way to much time reading there I
>> just found opinions there.
>> Someone would say try this. Another guy would say he did but it
>> didn't work.
>> If I could find a direct step by step list of what to do, and what
>> programs I needed to do it I would try.
>>
>> I finally just burned out reading all the crap there and gave up
>> on doing anything...
>>
>> Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent
>> to www.howardforums.com. Never have seen anyone come back and say
>> "thanks, that worked great"...
>>
>> I feel I am as good as anyone when it comes to tampering with
>> things like this. Not afraid to try, that's for sure.
>>
>> I never really found anything there I thought was worth trying.
>
>Apparently you never really looked. Your post above proves it, go back
>and try again. It's very simple and easy to do and I'm VERY thankful
>to those who pointed me to Howard forums.
>
>Start here and don't hesitate to follow links:
>
>http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122273

I looked. I looked longer then I wanted to. But maybe spent my time
reading the wrong material. I'll give it another try.

I just wonder if it's such an easy follow the step process why it
hasn't showed up here...?

This is the only kind of help I've ever seen here. Someone saying how
easy it is. And a link...
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The Dr. wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:11:23 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
>>> www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if
>>> I would have found a straight forward step by step set of
>>> instructions to do it.
>>> For the most part after spending way to much time reading there I
>>> just found opinions there.
>>> Someone would say try this. Another guy would say he did but it
>>> didn't work.
>>> If I could find a direct step by step list of what to do, and what
>>> programs I needed to do it I would try.
>>>
>>> I finally just burned out reading all the crap there and gave up
>>> on doing anything...
>>>
>>> Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent
>>> to www.howardforums.com. Never have seen anyone come back and say
>>> "thanks, that worked great"...
>>>
>>> I feel I am as good as anyone when it comes to tampering with
>>> things like this. Not afraid to try, that's for sure.
>>>
>>> I never really found anything there I thought was worth trying.
>>
>> Apparently you never really looked. Your post above proves it, go
>> back and try again. It's very simple and easy to do and I'm VERY
>> thankful to those who pointed me to Howard forums.
>>
>> Start here and don't hesitate to follow links:
>>
>> http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122273
>
> I looked. I looked longer then I wanted to. But maybe spent my time
> reading the wrong material. I'll give it another try.
>
> I just wonder if it's such an easy follow the step process why it
> hasn't showed up here...?
>
> This is the only kind of help I've ever seen here. Someone saying how
> easy it is. And a link...
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Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step manual but you
might have better luck at www.motox.info or www.motomodders.net or
www.vxxxstuff.com or www.modmymoto.com. All are good sources but it takes
some digging. As for what software to use to do the SEEM edits on your v3,
Motokit is my personal favorite and can be downloaded from any of the sites
I listed.

"bruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step
> manual but you might have better luck at www.motox.info or
> www.motomodders.net or www.vxxxstuff.com or www.modmymoto.com.
> All are good sources but it takes some digging. As for what
> software to use to do the SEEM edits on your v3, Motokit is my
> personal favorite and can be downloaded from any of the sites I
> listed.

One more VERY good source:

http://www.hacktherazr.com/guides.html

Look under "Programming".



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XS11E wrote:
> "bruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step
>> manual but you might have better luck at www.motox.info or
>> www.motomodders.net or www.vxxxstuff.com or www.modmymoto.com.
>> All are good sources but it takes some digging. As for what
>> software to use to do the SEEM edits on your v3, Motokit is my
>> personal favorite and can be downloaded from any of the sites I
>> listed.
>
> One more VERY good source:
>
> http://www.hacktherazr.com/guides.html
>
> Look under "Programming".

That's a new one for me... looks very good. Thanks!

"bruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> "bruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step
>>> manual but you might have better luck at www.motox.info or
>>> www.motomodders.net or www.vxxxstuff.com or www.modmymoto.com.
>>> All are good sources but it takes some digging. As for what
>>> software to use to do the SEEM edits on your v3, Motokit is my
>>> personal favorite and can be downloaded from any of the sites I
>>> listed.
>>
>> One more VERY good source:
>>
>> http://www.hacktherazr.com/guides.html
>>
>> Look under "Programming".
>
> That's a new one for me... looks very good. Thanks!

Hope it works for you...


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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:35:26 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Country Boy wrote:
>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>> not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>> and still no luck.
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>WGD wrote:
>>>
>>>>Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>>>>(though the V3c is in its list)
>>>>
>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>>
>>>>Tks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
>Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
>can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>download the version with RAZR V3m support.

The attached picture shows what you should see when using moto phone
tools with a v3m.
But in reality even after you get the phone tools from Motorola that
will work with the v3m. You will NOT see multimedia studio as one of
your available selections.

This still remains crippled by verizon. And if you come right out and
ask the person you get in touch with at Motorola they will admit this.
You might even get someone that speaks English well enough to
understand if your lucky...
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>The attached picture ...

Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to being
rude, it means your post won't make it to the many newservers that
filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead, put your image on a
free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put the URL in your Usenet
post.

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <[email protected]> wrote in
><[email protected]>:
>
>>The attached picture ...
>
>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to being
>rude, it means your post won't make it to the many newservers that
>filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead, put your image on a
>free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put the URL in your Usenet
>post.

Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make a
crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of their
users.

Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers worth
looking at.

And how willingly motorola did it for them.
Like I said before. Any whore will swallow if the price is right...

Rude...? Your rude for putting your nose where it doesn't belong. And
bring nothing useful to the conversation.

Try to keep from doing that in the feature...
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