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Old 02-04-2008, 05:57 PM   #1
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Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools


Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
(though the V3c is in its list)

Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)

Tks!






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Old 02-04-2008, 06:06 PM   #2
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WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
> Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
> older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)


As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version of
MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The older
versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the upgrade
steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.

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Old 02-04-2008, 06:18 PM   #3
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WGD wrote:
> Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
> (though the V3c is in its list)
>
> Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
> older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>
> Tks!
>
>
>
>


Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!


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Old 02-04-2008, 06:19 PM   #4
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dold@74.usenet.us.com wrote:
> WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)

>
>
> As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version of
> MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The older
> versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the upgrade
> steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>


In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.

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Old 02-05-2008, 07:10 AM   #5
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

>dold@74.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)

>>
>>
>> As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version of
>> MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The older
>> versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the upgrade
>> steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>>

>
>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.


If this is a verizon phone? If yes I had the same situation. I found
out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
crap.
I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:50 AM   #6
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The Dr. wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>dold@74.usenet.us.com wrote:
>>
>>>WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>
>>>
>>>As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version of
>>>MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The older
>>>versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the upgrade
>>>steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>>>

>>
>>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
>>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.

>
>
> If this is a verizon phone? If yes I had the same situation. I found
> out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
> verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
> crap.
> I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
> -- --


Yes, it's a Verizon phone. I complained to Motorola Technical Support
and was allowed to download a version of Motorola Phone Tools that DID
support the RAZR. I was then able to set up my contacts list and
calendar using my computer.

If I had known then what I know now, I would have signed up with a
different service provider. I had been with Verizon Wireless for years
both with and without a contract and had no problems with the service.
It was only after I bought two new RAZRs and signed a new contract that
I found out about some of the problems in dealing with Verizon.

I have no interest in watching TV or listening to music using my phone!
I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly
just hurt my ears!

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Old 02-07-2008, 08:18 AM   #7
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I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
and still no luck.

CB


"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47A7B94E.9040904@comcast.net...
> WGD wrote:
>> Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>> (though the V3c is in its list)
>>
>> Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>> older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>
>> Tks!
>>
>>

>
> Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
>
>



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Old 02-07-2008, 09:35 AM   #8
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Country Boy wrote:
> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
> not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
> and still no luck.
>
> CB
>
>
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:47A7B94E.9040904@comcast.net...
>
>>WGD wrote:
>>
>>>Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>>>(though the V3c is in its list)
>>>
>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>
>>>Tks!
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
>>
>>

>
>
>


Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
download the version with RAZR V3m support.

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Old 02-07-2008, 10:44 AM   #9
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Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
> Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
> can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
> download the version with RAZR V3m support.


The downloadable URL is a single download that should result in the same
level MPT as a series of updates applied to any version of MPT.

The MPT live updates only move one step at a time, so the downloads might
total over 100MB, instead of the URL, which is the latest level.

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Old 02-07-2008, 10:55 AM   #10
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Dr. wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dold@74.usenet.us.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version
>>>>of
>>>>MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The
>>>>older
>>>>versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the
>>>>upgrade
>>>>steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>>>>
>>>
>>>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
>>>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.

>>
>>
>> If this is a verizon phone? If yes I had the same situation. I found
>> out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
>> verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
>> crap.
>> I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
>> -- --

>
> Yes, it's a Verizon phone. I complained to Motorola Technical Support and
> was allowed to download a version of Motorola Phone Tools that DID support
> the RAZR. I was then able to set up my contacts list and calendar using
> my computer.
>
> If I had known then what I know now, I would have signed up with a
> different service provider. I had been with Verizon Wireless for years
> both with and without a contract and had no problems with the service. It
> was only after I bought two new RAZRs and signed a new contract that I
> found out about some of the problems in dealing with Verizon.
>
> I have no interest in watching TV or listening to music using my phone!
> I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly just
> hurt my ears!



Join the growing unhappy group of Verizon/V3m subscribers. Same story here.

TKM


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Old 02-07-2008, 11:19 AM   #11
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Thanks folks. I will call them.

CB


<dold@74.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:fofg1i$jak$3@blue.rahul.net...
> Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
>> Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
>> can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>> download the version with RAZR V3m support.

>
> The downloadable URL is a single download that should result in the same
> level MPT as a series of updates applied to any version of MPT.
>
> The MPT live updates only move one step at a time, so the downloads might
> total over 100MB, instead of the URL, which is the latest level.
>
> --
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5



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Old 02-07-2008, 03:59 PM   #12
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Via eBay - for $0.98, yes $o.98 via PayPal, I purchased Motorola's MPT
latest ver 4.5.6a said to support ALLTEL CDMA Razr V3a. So far it does
not.

BTW, the eBay supplier said the 4.5.6a does NOT support/work with the V3a!

Motorola sent me this afternoon a page of instructions relative to how to
make 4.5.6a work with the V3a (CDMA)

Stay tuned. Will see later this evening and report back.

WGD


<dold@74.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:fo8cqh$p6k$1@blue.rahul.net...
> WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>> older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)

>
> As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version
> of
> MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The
> older
> versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the upgrade
> steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>
> --
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5



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Old 02-08-2008, 07:16 AM   #13
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:50:20 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

>The Dr. wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dold@74.usenet.us.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version of
>>>>MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The older
>>>>versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the upgrade
>>>>steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>>>>
>>>
>>>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
>>>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.

>>
>>
>> If this is a verizon phone? If yes I had the same situation. I found
>> out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
>> verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
>> crap.
>> I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
>> -- --

>
>Yes, it's a Verizon phone. I complained to Motorola Technical Support
>and was allowed to download a version of Motorola Phone Tools that DID
>support the RAZR. I was then able to set up my contacts list and
>calendar using my computer.
>
>If I had known then what I know now, I would have signed up with a
>different service provider. I had been with Verizon Wireless for years
>both with and without a contract and had no problems with the service.
>It was only after I bought two new RAZRs and signed a new contract that
>I found out about some of the problems in dealing with Verizon.
>
>I have no interest in watching TV or listening to music using my phone!
>I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly
>just hurt my ears!


Same here. I have been with verizon several years back into the Air
Touch days...
Being a long time customer means **** to them...

I thought it would be cute if I could make an mp3 I like into a ring
tone. Or easily move a few pictures back and forth from the computer
to the phone.

Nothing I had in mind worked. The only way I could make it happen was
to use the blood sucking Vcast. Not a chance.

I was able to do a little of what I wanted by putting things on the
memory card and renaming the files.

But I was and still am really disappointed with verizon for selling me
such a crippled piece of **** and not telling me till I bought it.
And with motorola for making this neutered piece of crap for verizon.

I guess any whore will swallow if the price is right...
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:33 AM   #14
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Go to www.howardforums.com and www.motox.info to learn how to uncripple your
phone. It's not hard to do and you'll get what you paid for. While others
here may disagree, you bought a phone that Motorola spent millions
advertising as having certain capabilities and functions and you had a
reasonable expectation that you would get what was advertised. The fact that
Verizon disables - I call it cripples - the phone is certainly whithin their
rights, but they have a duty to let you know that their product is not as
fully featured and capable as the version Motorola advertises. Sounds like
a good class action suit!


"The Dr." <The_Dr@home.now> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:50:20 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>The Dr. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>>> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>dold@74.usenet.us.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>WGD <wgd.roaming1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW
>>>>>>pkg!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest
>>>>>version of
>>>>>MPT via the internet. The newer versions check on each startup. The
>>>>>older
>>>>>versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate. Some of the
>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work. I went
>>>>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is a verizon phone? If yes I had the same situation. I found
>>> out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
>>> verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
>>> crap.
>>> I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
>>> -- --

>>
>>Yes, it's a Verizon phone. I complained to Motorola Technical Support
>>and was allowed to download a version of Motorola Phone Tools that DID
>>support the RAZR. I was then able to set up my contacts list and
>>calendar using my computer.
>>
>>If I had known then what I know now, I would have signed up with a
>>different service provider. I had been with Verizon Wireless for years
>>both with and without a contract and had no problems with the service.
>>It was only after I bought two new RAZRs and signed a new contract that
>>I found out about some of the problems in dealing with Verizon.
>>
>>I have no interest in watching TV or listening to music using my phone!
>>I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly
>>just hurt my ears!

>
> Same here. I have been with verizon several years back into the Air
> Touch days...
> Being a long time customer means **** to them...
>
> I thought it would be cute if I could make an mp3 I like into a ring
> tone. Or easily move a few pictures back and forth from the computer
> to the phone.
>
> Nothing I had in mind worked. The only way I could make it happen was
> to use the blood sucking Vcast. Not a chance.
>
> I was able to do a little of what I wanted by putting things on the
> memory card and renaming the files.
>
> But I was and still am really disappointed with verizon for selling me
> such a crippled piece of **** and not telling me till I bought it.
> And with motorola for making this neutered piece of crap for verizon.
>
> I guess any whore will swallow if the price is right...
> -- --



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Old 02-08-2008, 01:15 PM   #15
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:35:26 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

>Country Boy wrote:
>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>> not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>> and still no luck.
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:47A7B94E.9040904@comcast.net...
>>
>>>WGD wrote:
>>>
>>>>Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>>>>(though the V3c is in its list)
>>>>
>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>>
>>>>Tks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
>Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
>Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
>can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>download the version with RAZR V3m support.


So far so good... I did call. They did email me a link to download
what should work with this V3m.
I have not tried it yet. But will let the results be known, good or
bad...

Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then I
got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...
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