L6 and Mobile Phone Tools

Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
photos, ...).
Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete the
upgrade (I don't know why).
How can I do?
Thank you all.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
<47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:

>Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
>photos, ...).
>Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete the
>upgrade (I don't know why).
>How can I do?
>Thank you all.

You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
on eBay.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

John Navas ha scritto:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:
>
>> Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>> I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
>> photos, ...).
>> Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete the
>> upgrade (I don't know why).
>> How can I do?
>> Thank you all.
>
> You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
> on eBay.
>
So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so,
it would be stigmatising.

fm2766 wrote:
> John Navas ha scritto:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
>> <47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:
>>
>>> Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>>> I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
>>> photos, ...).
>>> Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete
>>> the upgrade (I don't know why).
>>> How can I do?
>>> Thank you all.
>>
>>
>> You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
>> on eBay.
>>
> So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so,
> it would be stigmatising.


You should be able to update it. I'm not terribly impressed with MPT!
I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the
update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m.
I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and
was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR.

The program does not announce its version in any way that I can see. It
will not coexist with the software for another USB device that I have.

I got it working long enough to enter my contacts through a real
keyboard which was all I really need the program for.

I think, however, that next time I will buy a different brand of phone
from a different provider!

Richard B. Gilbert ha scritto:
> fm2766 wrote:
>> John Navas ha scritto:
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
>>> <47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:
>>>
>>>> Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>>>> I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address
>>>> book, photos, ...).
>>>> Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete
>>>> the upgrade (I don't know why).
>>>> How can I do?
>>>> Thank you all.
>>> You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
>>> on eBay.
>> So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was
>> so, it would be stigmatising.
> You should be able to update it.

Instead I can't update it.

> I'm not terribly impressed with MPT!

me too.

> I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the
> update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m.
> I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and
> was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR.

So, I'll phone to Motorola, too.

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:10:31 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote this with the utmost thought:

>fm2766 wrote:
>> John Navas ha scritto:
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
>>> <47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:
>>>
>>>> Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>>>> I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
>>>> photos, ...).
>>>> Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete
>>>> the upgrade (I don't know why).
>>>> How can I do?
>>>> Thank you all.
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
>>> on eBay.
>>>
>> So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so,
>> it would be stigmatising.
>
>
>You should be able to update it. I'm not terribly impressed with MPT!
>I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the
>update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m.
>I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and
>was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR.
>
>The program does not announce its version in any way that I can see. It
>will not coexist with the software for another USB device that I have.

On a standard install:

c:\program files\motorola phone tools

aboutn.ini

[Reserved]
ProductName=Motorola Phone Tools
ProductVersion=4.0.4a 11-22-2005 (051114006185)
LegalCopyright=Copyright (c) Avanquest Software 2001-2005
FileVersion=


[MPhoneTools.exe]
Title=Motorola Phone Tools

>I got it working long enough to enter my contacts through a real
>keyboard which was all I really need the program for.
>
>I think, however, that next time I will buy a different brand of phone
>from a different provider!

Use bluetooth and bluetooth places if you can, it's simple and easy unless
you have a crippled phone.

cellular@motorola.net wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:10:31 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote this with the utmost thought:
>
>
>>fm2766 wrote:
>>
>>>John Navas ha scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
>>>><47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>>>>>I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
>>>>>photos, ...).
>>>>>Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete
>>>>>the upgrade (I don't know why).
>>>>>How can I do?
>>>>>Thank you all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
>>>>on eBay.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so,
>>>it would be stigmatising.
>>
>>
>>You should be able to update it. I'm not terribly impressed with MPT!
>>I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the
>>update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m.
>>I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and
>>was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR.
>>
>>The program does not announce its version in any way that I can see. It
>>will not coexist with the software for another USB device that I have.
>
>
> On a standard install:
>
> c:\program files\motorola phone tools
>
> aboutn.ini
>
> [Reserved]
> ProductName=Motorola Phone Tools
> ProductVersion=4.0.4a 11-22-2005 (051114006185)
> LegalCopyright=Copyright (c) Avanquest Software 2001-2005
> FileVersion=
>
>
> [MPhoneTools.exe]
> Title=Motorola Phone Tools
>
>
>>I got it working long enough to enter my contacts through a real
>>keyboard which was all I really need the program for.
>>
>>I think, however, that next time I will buy a different brand of phone
>
>>from a different provider!
>
> Use bluetooth and bluetooth places if you can, it's simple and easy unless
> you have a crippled phone.

I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If
I'd known then what I know now. . . .

I just dug out the aboutn.... I've got:
ProductVersion=4.5.6a 8/17/2007 (070815010277)

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
....
> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If
> I'd known then what I know now. . . .
>

Richard, et al;

Sorry to take this off-topic a bit but, when you say "If I'd known then
what I know now..." How do you compare the relative "openness" of a
carrier? Is there a site or matrix or whatever?

I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't get
in my way...

tia,
-Craig

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:38:14 -0800, Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com>
wrote in <IIjwj.2761$pl4.908@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>:

>Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>...
>> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If
>> I'd known then what I know now. . . .
>
>Richard, et al;
>
>Sorry to take this off-topic a bit but, when you say "If I'd known then
>what I know now..." How do you compare the relative "openness" of a
>carrier? Is there a site or matrix or whatever?
>
>I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't get
>in my way...

Stick with a GSM carrier (AT&T or T-Mobile) and use an unlocked generic
handset.

--
Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI:
John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>

John Navas wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:38:14 -0800, Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com>
> wrote in <IIjwj.2761$pl4.908@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>:
>
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> ...
>>> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If
>>> I'd known then what I know now. . . .
>> Richard, et al;
>>
>> Sorry to take this off-topic a bit but, when you say "If I'd known then
>> what I know now..." How do you compare the relative "openness" of a
>> carrier? Is there a site or matrix or whatever?
>>
>> I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't get
>> in my way...
>
> Stick with a GSM carrier (AT&T or T-Mobile) and use an unlocked generic
> handset.
>

Thanks for the recommendation, John.

But I'm trying to understand how "crippled" & its opposite are being
defined or measured. This way, I can assess things for myself. It's
one of those 'give a man a fish' vs 'teach a man to fish' things.

tia,
-Craig

Craig wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> ...
>
>> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If
>> I'd known then what I know now. . . .
>>
>
> Richard, et al;
>
> Sorry to take this off-topic a bit but, when you say "If I'd known then
> what I know now..." How do you compare the relative "openness" of a
> carrier? Is there a site or matrix or whatever?
>
> I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't get
> in my way...
>
> tia,
> -Craig

My experience is pretty limited! My first cell phone was a Motorola. I
think the model was "Micro Tac". It looked like an anemic brick! It
weighed almost as much as a brick too. The battery pack was bigger than
the rest of the phone. I bought it from Bell Atlantic Mobile which
later became, or was acquired by, Verizon Wireless; don't know the
details and don't really care.

My second phone was a StarTac ST7868W which I bought ca. 2001. I bought
two, one for my wife, and carried it until last December when I noticed
that the battery was no longer holding a charge well. I went out and
bought two RAZR V3m phones from Verizon Wireless.

My first two phones were phones and nothing more. The RAZR was the
first to offer an inexpensive and easy interface to a computer. I think
the ST78968W could interface to a computer but the software and data
cable were expensive ($100) and I had already entered my contacts names
and phone numbers the hard way, via the phone's keypad.

When I got the RAZR, I wanted the phone to be a good one and I have no
complaints about the phone part. I didn't need, or want, to download
and play music or video. I didn't really need a camera either. I did
want the ability to enter my contact's names and phone numbers using a
real keyboard; pressing the "ABC" key three times to get a "C" is pretty
kludgy! It's also slow and clumsy; I can type thirty or forty words per
minute on a computer keyboard or various antique devices such as card
punches, or an IBM Selectric typewriter.

None of my earlier phones had anything that Verizon might have crippled
to their profit so it never occured to me that they would sell me a
crippled phone.

I understand that other providers do not cripple the phones that they
sell; crippling the product seems to be Verizon invention.

Next time I will talk to Cingular first; they have a kiosk in the local
shopping mall. It will probably be three to five years from now if I
live that long.

Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> But I'm trying to understand how "crippled" & its opposite are
> being defined or measured.

"Crippled" is pretty meaningless, it means that Verizon sets their
phones so that you must use their services in order to transfer
pictures, ringtones, files, etc. to/from your phone.

It's very easy to modify a Motorola phone (have no experience with
other brands but I think some will and some won't?) so that it will do
these things directly w/o using Verizon's services.

NOTE: Unlike what some people will tell you:
1. it's easy for anyone who can read and follow instructions.*
2. it won't wreck your phone IF you can read, understand and follow
directions.
3. it won't affect your warranty, you can always restore the phone as
it was before modification if need be**

However, the so called "crippling" give some folks something to whine
about so I think it's essential that Verizon continue doing so! I'd
hate to see (name deleted) with nothing to whine about.... ;-)



* I can do it so I have to believe anyone can! ;-)

**FWIW, I had my V3m replaced w/o restoring it, I had a problem and
didn't want to bother putting it back as it was so I took a chance, the
tech at the store just handed me a new phone and activated it. Totally
off topic but... she was a VERY attractive young female, I really
didn't expect that!


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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> None of my earlier phones had anything that Verizon might have
> crippled to their profit so it never occured to me that they would
> sell me a crippled phone.

It isn't crippled, it will do anything any other phone will do. It
requires you to use Verizon's services or to modify it.

You've been told how to modify it if you want to, you've been told it
can be restored so that your warranty will not be affected so please
STOP YOUR DAMN WHINING!

Thank you.


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Craig wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:38:14 -0800, Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com>
>> wrote in <IIjwj.2761$pl4.908@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>:
>>
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled!
>>>> If I'd known then what I know now. . . .
>>>
>>> Richard, et al;
>>>
>>> Sorry to take this off-topic a bit but, when you say "If I'd known
>>> then what I know now..." How do you compare the relative "openness"
>>> of a carrier? Is there a site or matrix or whatever?
>>>
>>> I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't
>>> get in my way...
>>
>>
>> Stick with a GSM carrier (AT&T or T-Mobile) and use an unlocked generic
>> handset.
>>
>
> Thanks for the recommendation, John.
>
> But I'm trying to understand how "crippled" & its opposite are being
> defined or measured. This way, I can assess things for myself. It's
> one of those 'give a man a fish' vs 'teach a man to fish' things.
>
> tia,
> -Craig

"Crippled" means that a feature normally built into the phone, such as
the ability to transfer pictures from your phone to your computer over a
USB cable, has been disabled. My RAZR V3m, as manufactured, can ring
and vibrate simultaneously but this, too, has been disabled.

You can get "hacking" software, and use it to do something called a
"seem edit" that will reenable the disabled feature(s) but doing so will
void your warranty! Basically you just flip a bit in the phone's memory
to turn things off or on.

I don't want this stuff badly enough to void my warranty. I also don't
want it badly enough to pay Verizon for the privilege of transferring
data from my phone to my computer using their network. The ability to
transmit pictures over their network to a friend's e-Mail is something I
might use someday if I was away from home and took a picture that I
wanted to send to somebody but I want no part of a service provider that
cripples my phone so that is my ONLY option.

cellular@motorola.net wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:10:31 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote this with the utmost thought:
>
>
>>fm2766 wrote:
>>
>>>John Navas ha scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:24 +0100, fm2766 <fm2766@yahoo.it> wrote in
>>>><47BDDE34.5@yahoo.it>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16).
>>>>>I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book,
>>>>>photos, ...).
>>>>>Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete
>>>>>the upgrade (I don't know why).
>>>>>How can I do?
>>>>>Thank you all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or
>>>>on eBay.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so,
>>>it would be stigmatising.
>>
>>
>>You should be able to update it. I'm not terribly impressed with MPT!
>>I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the
>>update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m.
>>I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and
>>was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR.
>>
>>The program does not announce its version in any way that I can see. It
>>will not coexist with the software for another USB device that I have.
>
>
> On a standard install:
>
> c:\program files\motorola phone tools
>
> aboutn.ini
>
> [Reserved]
> ProductName=Motorola Phone Tools
> ProductVersion=4.0.4a 11-22-2005 (051114006185)
> LegalCopyright=Copyright (c) Avanquest Software 2001-2005
> FileVersion=
>
>
> [MPhoneTools.exe]
> Title=Motorola Phone Tools
>
>
>>I got it working long enough to enter my contacts through a real
>>keyboard which was all I really need the program for.
>>
>>I think, however, that next time I will buy a different brand of phone
>
>>from a different provider!
>
> Use bluetooth and bluetooth places if you can, it's simple and easy unless
> you have a crippled phone.

Thanks! I've got:
ProductVersion=4.5.6a 8/17/2007 (070815010277)