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Old 03-15-2008, 06:07 AM   #1
Richard Stoddard
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RAZR2 with Mac


I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
us who use Macs?




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Old 03-15-2008, 06:13 AM   #2
Richard B. Gilbert
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


Richard Stoddard wrote:
> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally happy
> with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a version
> of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site, and am
> frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it requires me
> to select my phone, but working through that menu I find the RAZR2 isn't
> listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of us who use Macs?
>
>


The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.

Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!

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Old 03-15-2008, 06:19 AM   #3
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


On 2008-03-15 08:13:28 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> said:
>
> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>
> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!


I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I
download rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I
don't have the option to use MPT to create my own?

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Old 03-15-2008, 06:44 AM   #4
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


Richard Stoddard schrieb:
> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally happy
> with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a version
> of MPT for Mac.


I'm not a Mac user, however you shouldn't need MPT to upload ringtones
to your phone anyway.

The V8 (unless it comes with a firmware that was crippled by operator
request) can be set to mass storage mode, in which it will attach to a
USB host in very much the same way as a USB memory stick does. You
should then be able to copy files using the ...uh... Finder.

To put the phone to mass storage mode, go to the phone main menu, select
"setup", then "connections", and change "USB setting" to "Memory Card".
Then plug in the phone cable and you should be ready to go.

> I tried to download ringtones from their site, and am
> frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it requires me
> to select my phone, but working through that menu I find the RAZR2 isn't
> listed.


RAZR2 can be both a V8 and a V9. Did you check if there is a V8 section?

> Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of us who use Macs?


You should consider yourself lucky not having to use crappy MTP.
However, as long as there is no iSync plugin for the V8, there will be
no calender/adressbook syncing between the V8 and a Mac.

Andreas


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Old 03-15-2008, 06:54 AM   #5
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


On 2008-03-15 08:44:57 -0400, Andreas Wenzel <awspambucket@gmx.de> said:
>
> I'm not a Mac user, however you shouldn't need MPT to upload ringtones
> to your phone anyway.
>
> The V8 (unless it comes with a firmware that was crippled by operator
> request) can be set to mass storage mode, in which it will attach to a
> USB host in very much the same way as a USB memory stick does. You
> should then be able to copy files using the ...uh... Finder.
>
> To put the phone to mass storage mode, go to the phone main menu,
> select "setup", then "connections", and change "USB setting" to "Memory
> Card". Then plug in the phone cable and you should be ready to go.


> RAZR2 can be both a V8 and a V9. Did you check if there is a V8 section?


So far I don't see either of the RAZR2 models listed when asked to
select my phone from the download site. Maybe they just haven't updated
their sire for awhile. (frustrating) In the meantime, thanks for the
advice on copying files. Maybe I can figure out a work around some way.

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Old 03-15-2008, 07:31 AM   #6
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


Richard Stoddard wrote:
> On 2008-03-15 08:13:28 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> said:
>
>>
>> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
>> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>>
>> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!

>
>
> I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I download
> rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I don't have
> the option to use MPT to create my own?
>


Buy the hardware and O/S that the software you need runs on! Or find
some Mac software. Or write your own!

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Old 03-15-2008, 08:53 AM   #7
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


In article <2008031508074116807-richardstoddard@maccom>,
Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:

> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
> happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
> version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
> and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
> requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
> the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
> us who use Macs?



Richard, I have a Razr (not the same model as yours), and I use MPT via
Parallels and XP on my Mac. Do you have an Intel Mac? If so, you can use
Boot Camp, Parallels or Fusion to install Windows and MPT so that you
have access to the features you want. If you have a PPC Mac, you can use
Virtual PC to do the same thing, albeit much more slowly, since the
emulation is for both the processor and the platform in this case.

BTW, Richard Gilbert, I'm not a "graphic arts type", and my Mac is
pretty special to me.

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Old 03-15-2008, 09:16 AM   #8
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


Sandy Foster wrote:
> In article <2008031508074116807-richardstoddard@maccom>,
> Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
>>happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
>>version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
>>and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
>>requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
>>the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
>>us who use Macs?

>
>
>
> Richard, I have a Razr (not the same model as yours), and I use MPT via
> Parallels and XP on my Mac. Do you have an Intel Mac? If so, you can use
> Boot Camp, Parallels or Fusion to install Windows and MPT so that you
> have access to the features you want. If you have a PPC Mac, you can use
> Virtual PC to do the same thing, albeit much more slowly, since the
> emulation is for both the processor and the platform in this case.
>
> BTW, Richard Gilbert, I'm not a "graphic arts type", and my Mac is
> pretty special to me.
>


I have never owned a Mac. In a 35 year career in IT, I've managed to
accumulate about an hour of "face time" with a Mac. The hardware was
overpriced and the software didn't do anything I really needed or wanted.

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Old 03-15-2008, 10:28 AM   #9
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


In article <47DBBD68.1070604@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>
> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!


Yeah, Vista is an overwhelming success.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:29 AM   #10
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


In article <2008031508193875249-richardstoddard@maccom>, Richard
Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:

> I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I
> download rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I
> don't have the option to use MPT to create my own?


There's DataPilot from Susteen. It's not the greatest, but it should do
the trick. I just use Bluetooth for transferring ringtones, pics, etc.
But I guess you have to get them first.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:31 AM   #11
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


In article <47DBE853.8080401@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have never owned a Mac. In a 35 year career in IT, I've managed to
> accumulate about an hour of "face time" with a Mac. The hardware was
> overpriced and the software didn't do anything I really needed or wanted.


You need to look at them again. Things have changed since 1984.

I'm the senior tech support specialist for a private university. It's
my job to keep working most of the University-owned PCs and Macs.
Fortunately, I have student workers who do most of the PC work and
leave me to the Macs. It's a great job.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:59 AM   #12
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <47DBE853.8080401@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I have never owned a Mac. In a 35 year career in IT, I've managed to
>>accumulate about an hour of "face time" with a Mac. The hardware was
>>overpriced and the software didn't do anything I really needed or wanted.

>
>
> You need to look at them again. Things have changed since 1984.
>


My last look was ca. 2004.

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Old 03-16-2008, 07:32 AM   #13
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


In article <47DC0E21.3080305@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> > Yeah, Vista is an overwhelming success.

>
> Vista? I'd recommend W/XP SP2 if you can still find a copy. I've got
> mine!!


I was being sarcastic. Vista is a complete cluster ****.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:32 AM   #14
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


In article <47DC0E8C.7090803@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> My last look was ca. 2004.


You didn't take a very close look. The only way I'd go back to Windows
for personal use is if Apple either went out of business or created and
OS that sucked as much as Vista.
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:19 AM   #15
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Re: RAZR2 with Mac


Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <47DC0E8C.7090803@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>My last look was ca. 2004.

>
>
> You didn't take a very close look. The only way I'd go back to Windows
> for personal use is if Apple either went out of business or created and
> OS that sucked as much as Vista.


Windows and, years ago, DOS are and were where the applications are! At
least that's where the applications I want to run are!!

I don't know about Vista. What I've heard does not encourage me to
upgrade. But I don't NEED to upgrade. I've got W/XP and I suspect it
will last me until I no longer need a computer. Just for the record, I
also run Solaris (SPARC), OpenVMS (VAX and Alpha) and Linux. Between
the four, there should always be at least one that will do what I need.

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