NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!

09-24-2003, 01:32 PM

Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.

Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.

For the rest of the story CLICK HERE

09-24-2003, 03:56 PM

This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency appeal.

--
Chris

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> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission =
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list =
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by =
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go =
> into effect Oct. 1.
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> do-not-call list=20
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by=20
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not=20
> want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into =
> effect Oct.=20
> 1.<BR><BR>For the rest of the story <A=20
> href=3D"http://palmplace.blogspot.com">CLICK =
> HERE</A></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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09-24-2003, 03:56 PM

This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency appeal.

--
Chris

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"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
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> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission =
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list =
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by =
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go =
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
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> interested,=20
> and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is =
> short=20
> lived.<BR><BR>Sept 24 =97  A federal judge has ruled that the =
> Federal Trade=20
> Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national =
> do-not-call list=20
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by=20
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not=20
> want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into =
> effect Oct.=20
> 1.<BR><BR>For the rest of the story <A=20
> href=3D"http://palmplace.blogspot.com">CLICK =
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09-24-2003, 04:20 PM

"Chris Russell" <noone@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:vn417o447gc1a9@corp.supernews.com...
> This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
> vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency
appeal.
>
> --
> Chris

I read in another news article where they felt they could overturn
this decision ... and if they can't, I hope that judge gets put on
every telephone list out there ...

Bob

09-24-2003, 04:20 PM

"Chris Russell" <noone@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:vn417o447gc1a9@corp.supernews.com...
> This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
> vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency
appeal.
>
> --
> Chris

I read in another news article where they felt they could overturn
this decision ... and if they can't, I hope that judge gets put on
every telephone list out there ...

Bob

09-24-2003, 05:00 PM

I think 50 Million people who utilize phone numbers in the US is enough
of a reason to let it go. Who the heck does this judge think he is to
delay it. He is probably some small time judge trying to make a name
for himself.

IMHO...There should be no provision for a single judge to overturn such
an item like this one. A very large population of the USA has spoken!
--
Mark

noone@nospam.nospam (Chris Russell) wrote in article
<vn417o447gc1a9@corp.supernews.com>:
> This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
> vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency appeal.
>
> --
> Chris
>
> Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com
>
>
> "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
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> > Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> > fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> > I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> > Lets hope this stop is short lived.
> >
> > Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission =
> > overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list =
> > against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by =
> > telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> > do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go =
> > into effect Oct. 1.
> >
> > For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
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> > size=3D2>Since this has been=20
> > discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also=20
> > encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am =
> > interested,=20
> > and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is =
> > short=20
> > lived.<BR><BR>Sept 24 =97  A federal judge has ruled that the =
> > Federal Trade=20
> > Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national =
> > do-not-call list=20
> > against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by=20
> > telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> > do not=20
> > want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into =
> > effect Oct.=20
> > 1.<BR><BR>For the rest of the story <A=20
> > href=3D"http://palmplace.blogspot.com">CLICK =
> > HERE</A></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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> [posted via phonescoop.com]

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09-24-2003, 05:00 PM

I think 50 Million people who utilize phone numbers in the US is enough
of a reason to let it go. Who the heck does this judge think he is to
delay it. He is probably some small time judge trying to make a name
for himself.

IMHO...There should be no provision for a single judge to overturn such
an item like this one. A very large population of the USA has spoken!
--
Mark

noone@nospam.nospam (Chris Russell) wrote in article
<vn417o447gc1a9@corp.supernews.com>:
> This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
> vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency appeal.
>
> --
> Chris
>
> Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com
>
>
> "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
> <wV2dnV5xwPlIfuyiXTWJkQ@comcast.com>:
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> > Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> > fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> > I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> > Lets hope this stop is short lived.
> >
> > Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission =
> > overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list =
> > against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by =
> > telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> > do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go =
> > into effect Oct. 1.
> >
> > For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
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> > size=3D2>Since this has been=20
> > discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also=20
> > encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am =
> > interested,=20
> > and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is =
> > short=20
> > lived.<BR><BR>Sept 24 =97  A federal judge has ruled that the =
> > Federal Trade=20
> > Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national =
> > do-not-call list=20
> > against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by=20
> > telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> > do not=20
> > want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into =
> > effect Oct.=20
> > 1.<BR><BR>For the rest of the story <A=20
> > href=3D"http://palmplace.blogspot.com">CLICK =
> > HERE</A></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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09-24-2003, 05:02 PM

"Mark F" <askme@askme.com> wrote in message
news:vn450d8cauee45@corp.supernews.com...
> I think 50 Million people who utilize phone numbers in the US is enough
> of a reason to let it go. Who the heck does this judge think he is to
> delay it. He is probably some small time judge trying to make a name
> for himself.
>
> IMHO...There should be no provision for a single judge to overturn such
> an item like this one. A very large population of the USA has spoken!
> --
> Mark
>

You'd think that companies would at least honor the wishes of people who
don't want to be called, regardless of whether the FCC had the authority or
not. But they're just after money, so they don't care how annoying they
are.

09-24-2003, 05:02 PM

"Mark F" <askme@askme.com> wrote in message
news:vn450d8cauee45@corp.supernews.com...
> I think 50 Million people who utilize phone numbers in the US is enough
> of a reason to let it go. Who the heck does this judge think he is to
> delay it. He is probably some small time judge trying to make a name
> for himself.
>
> IMHO...There should be no provision for a single judge to overturn such
> an item like this one. A very large population of the USA has spoken!
> --
> Mark
>

You'd think that companies would at least honor the wishes of people who
don't want to be called, regardless of whether the FCC had the authority or
not. But they're just after money, so they don't care how annoying they
are.

09-24-2003, 05:22 PM

The last thing tele-marketers want to do is respect the right of the
person on the other end not wanting to be harassed by them. Greed
rules. With this action they can slam dunk anyone who tries to sue them
for being invasive into their lives.

"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
<wV2dnV5xwPlIfuyiXTWJkQ@comcast.com>:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission =
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list =
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by =
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go =
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
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> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff background=3D""><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>Since this has been=20
> discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also=20
> encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am =
> interested,=20
> and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is =
> short=20
> lived.<BR><BR>Sept 24 =97  A federal judge has ruled that the =
> Federal Trade=20
> Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national =
> do-not-call list=20
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by=20
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not=20
> want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into =
> effect Oct.=20
> 1.<BR><BR>For the rest of the story <A=20
> href=3D"http://palmplace.blogspot.com">CLICK =
> HERE</A></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>
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>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

09-24-2003, 05:22 PM

The last thing tele-marketers want to do is respect the right of the
person on the other end not wanting to be harassed by them. Greed
rules. With this action they can slam dunk anyone who tries to sue them
for being invasive into their lives.

"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
<wV2dnV5xwPlIfuyiXTWJkQ@comcast.com>:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C382A8.BF2E3920
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission =
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list =
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by =
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go =
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
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> charset="iso-8859-1"
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> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff background=3D""><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>Since this has been=20
> discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also=20
> encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am =
> interested,=20
> and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is =
> short=20
> lived.<BR><BR>Sept 24 =97  A federal judge has ruled that the =
> Federal Trade=20
> Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national =
> do-not-call list=20
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by=20
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they =
> do not=20
> want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into =
> effect Oct.=20
> 1.<BR><BR>For the rest of the story <A=20
> href=3D"http://palmplace.blogspot.com">CLICK =
> HERE</A></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>
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[posted via phonescoop.com]

09-24-2003, 05:22 PM

Just so you know, the FTC Federal Trade Commission effected the "Do Not
Call" list, not the FCC Federal Comunication Commission. The appeal
will probably go to the 3 judge panel in that district, or because of
the lateness of the hour the Supreme Court Justice that supervises that
state will accept an emergency appeal to the full Supreme Court with
consultation of the other Justices. Let's hope so.

--
Chris

Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com

"Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
<cd023309ccfd696f7bbd5220608515c4@news.teranews.co m>:
>
> "Mark F" <askme@askme.com> wrote in message
> news:vn450d8cauee45@corp.supernews.com...
> > I think 50 Million people who utilize phone numbers in the US is enough
> > of a reason to let it go. Who the heck does this judge think he is to
> > delay it. He is probably some small time judge trying to make a name
> > for himself.
> >
> > IMHO...There should be no provision for a single judge to overturn such
> > an item like this one. A very large population of the USA has spoken!
> > --
> > Mark
> >
>
>
> You'd think that companies would at least honor the wishes of people who
> don't want to be called, regardless of whether the FCC had the authority or
> not. But they're just after money, so they don't care how annoying they
> are.
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

09-24-2003, 05:22 PM

Just so you know, the FTC Federal Trade Commission effected the "Do Not
Call" list, not the FCC Federal Comunication Commission. The appeal
will probably go to the 3 judge panel in that district, or because of
the lateness of the hour the Supreme Court Justice that supervises that
state will accept an emergency appeal to the full Supreme Court with
consultation of the other Justices. Let's hope so.

--
Chris

Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com

"Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
<cd023309ccfd696f7bbd5220608515c4@news.teranews.co m>:
>
> "Mark F" <askme@askme.com> wrote in message
> news:vn450d8cauee45@corp.supernews.com...
> > I think 50 Million people who utilize phone numbers in the US is enough
> > of a reason to let it go. Who the heck does this judge think he is to
> > delay it. He is probably some small time judge trying to make a name
> > for himself.
> >
> > IMHO...There should be no provision for a single judge to overturn such
> > an item like this one. A very large population of the USA has spoken!
> > --
> > Mark
> >
>
>
> You'd think that companies would at least honor the wishes of people who
> don't want to be called, regardless of whether the FCC had the authority or
> not. But they're just after money, so they don't care how annoying they
> are.
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

09-24-2003, 05:29 PM

"Bob Smith" <usirsclt_NoSpam_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dUncb.7233$ai7.2005@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Chris Russell" <noone@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:vn417o447gc1a9@corp.supernews.com...
> > This is just the first step in the court process. Maybe this was a
> > vindictive Federal Judge and might be overturned on emergency
> appeal.
> >
> > --
> > Chris
>
> I read in another news article where they felt they could overturn
> this decision ... and if they can't, I hope that judge gets put on
> every telephone list out there ...
>
> Bob

Give the judge a shout tonight. He should be having dinner pretty soon.
405-348-0818

09-24-2003, 06:00 PM

In article <wV2dnV5xwPlIfuyiXTWJkQ@comcast.com>, PDA Man wrote:

> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.

All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
rid of solicitation calls on them.

Geoff.

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