Man Killed By Police In Omaha, Nebraska For Possessing Cell Phone

Dateline: 1998

As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division officers,
Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his hand
was a handgun.

Later, after all officers were cleared of the charges, the survivors of Marvin
Ammons filed a federal lawsuit in Omaha against the Omaha Police Division.
During the proceedings of this lawsuit, Ammons family attorneys forced then
Interim Omaha Police Chief Charlie Circo to release tape recordings in the
police's possession of Ammons and his cell phone calls.

Later still, the Douglas County, Nebraska judiciary announced that no requests
were ever made by the Omaha Police Division for wiretap permission nor had any
Douglas County, Nebraska judge ever issued any wiretap order, EVER. This was
printed in the Omaha World Herald with a Douglas County judge making the
statement.

Douglas County is the legal entity presiding over the city of Omaha, Nebraska.

Yet, the Omaha Police Division claimed the stop of the vehicle driven by Marvin
Ammons was a routine traffic stop. The man had broken no laws, and they
murdered him for having a cell phone in his hand.

The federal judge presiding over the case denied Ammon's family attorneys the
option of presenting the wiretapped recordings in court and the lawsuit was
dropped.

Later still, the nephew of Marvin Ammons was arrested in another so called
routine traffic stop where the OPD discovered a handgun and quantity of
marijuana. Apparently, the police, who had been conducting illegal wiretap
surveillance on the Ammons family had confused the voice of Marvin Ammons with
that of his nephew and were on their guns ready to kill when they stopped the
vehicle of Marvin Ammons prior to his nephew's arrest.

The entire episode is being covered up to this day. Not a finger was lifted by
the cellular service providers in the Omaha, Nebraska area, including Sprint
PCS, to protect their customers from surveillance by the police or other
criminal eavesdroppers, nor was any effort by the FCC or any other federal
agency to bring the police and their informants to justice.

And you want me to buy a cellular telephone?

How would they "protect" their customers from being tapped? Do you have a
Landline phone? Whats the difference in tapping a landline and a cellphone?
Or are you cut off from the world? How about their ability to monitor your
emails and other activities??????

I'm not saying that the actions of the officers were right at the time of
the stop, but get real about the phone tapping. Find something else to *****
about.

"NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
> Dateline: 1998
>
> As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
officers,
> Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
> Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
hand
> was a handgun.
>
> Later, after all officers were cleared of the charges, the survivors of
Marvin
> Ammons filed a federal lawsuit in Omaha against the Omaha Police Division.
> During the proceedings of this lawsuit, Ammons family attorneys forced
then
> Interim Omaha Police Chief Charlie Circo to release tape recordings in the
> police's possession of Ammons and his cell phone calls.
>
> Later still, the Douglas County, Nebraska judiciary announced that no
requests
> were ever made by the Omaha Police Division for wiretap permission nor had
any
> Douglas County, Nebraska judge ever issued any wiretap order, EVER. This
was
> printed in the Omaha World Herald with a Douglas County judge making the
> statement.
>
> Douglas County is the legal entity presiding over the city of Omaha,
Nebraska.
>
> Yet, the Omaha Police Division claimed the stop of the vehicle driven by
Marvin
> Ammons was a routine traffic stop. The man had broken no laws, and they
> murdered him for having a cell phone in his hand.
>
> The federal judge presiding over the case denied Ammon's family attorneys
the
> option of presenting the wiretapped recordings in court and the lawsuit
was
> dropped.
>
> Later still, the nephew of Marvin Ammons was arrested in another so called
> routine traffic stop where the OPD discovered a handgun and quantity of
> marijuana. Apparently, the police, who had been conducting illegal wiretap
> surveillance on the Ammons family had confused the voice of Marvin Ammons
with
> that of his nephew and were on their guns ready to kill when they stopped
the
> vehicle of Marvin Ammons prior to his nephew's arrest.
>
> The entire episode is being covered up to this day. Not a finger was
lifted by
> the cellular service providers in the Omaha, Nebraska area, including
Sprint
> PCS, to protect their customers from surveillance by the police or other
> criminal eavesdroppers, nor was any effort by the FCC or any other federal
> agency to bring the police and their informants to justice.
>
> And you want me to buy a cellular telephone?

How would they "protect" their customers from being tapped? Do you have a
Landline phone? Whats the difference in tapping a landline and a cellphone?
Or are you cut off from the world? How about their ability to monitor your
emails and other activities??????

I'm not saying that the actions of the officers were right at the time of
the stop, but get real about the phone tapping. Find something else to *****
about.

"NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
> Dateline: 1998
>
> As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
officers,
> Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
> Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
hand
> was a handgun.
>
> Later, after all officers were cleared of the charges, the survivors of
Marvin
> Ammons filed a federal lawsuit in Omaha against the Omaha Police Division.
> During the proceedings of this lawsuit, Ammons family attorneys forced
then
> Interim Omaha Police Chief Charlie Circo to release tape recordings in the
> police's possession of Ammons and his cell phone calls.
>
> Later still, the Douglas County, Nebraska judiciary announced that no
requests
> were ever made by the Omaha Police Division for wiretap permission nor had
any
> Douglas County, Nebraska judge ever issued any wiretap order, EVER. This
was
> printed in the Omaha World Herald with a Douglas County judge making the
> statement.
>
> Douglas County is the legal entity presiding over the city of Omaha,
Nebraska.
>
> Yet, the Omaha Police Division claimed the stop of the vehicle driven by
Marvin
> Ammons was a routine traffic stop. The man had broken no laws, and they
> murdered him for having a cell phone in his hand.
>
> The federal judge presiding over the case denied Ammon's family attorneys
the
> option of presenting the wiretapped recordings in court and the lawsuit
was
> dropped.
>
> Later still, the nephew of Marvin Ammons was arrested in another so called
> routine traffic stop where the OPD discovered a handgun and quantity of
> marijuana. Apparently, the police, who had been conducting illegal wiretap
> surveillance on the Ammons family had confused the voice of Marvin Ammons
with
> that of his nephew and were on their guns ready to kill when they stopped
the
> vehicle of Marvin Ammons prior to his nephew's arrest.
>
> The entire episode is being covered up to this day. Not a finger was
lifted by
> the cellular service providers in the Omaha, Nebraska area, including
Sprint
> PCS, to protect their customers from surveillance by the police or other
> criminal eavesdroppers, nor was any effort by the FCC or any other federal
> agency to bring the police and their informants to justice.
>
> And you want me to buy a cellular telephone?

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:27:34 -0600, "JP's E-Mail"
<papeluv@charter.net> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:

>How would they "protect" their customers from being tapped? Do you have a
>Landline phone? Whats the difference in tapping a landline and a cellphone?

Nothing - they both require court orders.

>Or are you cut off from the world? How about their ability to monitor your
>emails and other activities??????

Same court order. Without it some celco employee violated both the
law and his employer's policy.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:27:34 -0600, "JP's E-Mail"
<papeluv@charter.net> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:

>How would they "protect" their customers from being tapped? Do you have a
>Landline phone? Whats the difference in tapping a landline and a cellphone?

Nothing - they both require court orders.

>Or are you cut off from the world? How about their ability to monitor your
>emails and other activities??????

Same court order. Without it some celco employee violated both the
law and his employer's policy.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

"JP's E-Mail" <papeluv@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vquivd8lel4qa5@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I'm not saying that the actions of the officers were right at the time of
> the stop, but get real about the phone tapping. Find something else to
*****
> about.
>
> "NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
> > Dateline: 1998
> >
> > As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
> officers,
> > Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by
Omaha
> > Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
> hand
> > was a handgun.
> >
snip - long story

> >
> > And you want me to buy a cellular telephone?
>
>

Well in the UK you can get shot for having a chair leg in a carrier bag, or
even lying in bed at home naked (James Ashley).

"JP's E-Mail" <papeluv@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vquivd8lel4qa5@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I'm not saying that the actions of the officers were right at the time of
> the stop, but get real about the phone tapping. Find something else to
*****
> about.
>
> "NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
> > Dateline: 1998
> >
> > As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
> officers,
> > Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by
Omaha
> > Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
> hand
> > was a handgun.
> >
snip - long story

> >
> > And you want me to buy a cellular telephone?
>
>

Well in the UK you can get shot for having a chair leg in a carrier bag, or
even lying in bed at home naked (James Ashley).

If you don't believe what has been said on this post, check out the archives of
the Omaha World Herald.

The details are in the article reporting on the progess of the Ammon's family's
lawsuit.

Marvin Ammon's cell phone killed him in more ways than one.

If you don't believe what has been said on this post, check out the archives of
the Omaha World Herald.

The details are in the article reporting on the progess of the Ammon's family's
lawsuit.

Marvin Ammon's cell phone killed him in more ways than one.

"NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
> Dateline: 1998
>
> As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
officers,
> Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
> Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
hand
> was a handgun.
>

Was he asked/ordered by the officers to exit the vehicle? Or did he
suddenly jump out in order to give the officers a piece of his mind? Common
sense tells you NOT to get out of your car during a police stop _until_ you
are asked/ordered to by the officers. If you exit a car with ANYTHING in
your hands during a traffic stop is simply begging for trouble.

DexAZ

"NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
> Dateline: 1998
>
> As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
officers,
> Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
> Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
hand
> was a handgun.
>

Was he asked/ordered by the officers to exit the vehicle? Or did he
suddenly jump out in order to give the officers a piece of his mind? Common
sense tells you NOT to get out of your car during a police stop _until_ you
are asked/ordered to by the officers. If you exit a car with ANYTHING in
your hands during a traffic stop is simply begging for trouble.

DexAZ

He jumped out of the car (after a lengthy slow speed chase in which
the vehicle crossed the center line several times), yelled something
at one of the approaching officers, pointed something black at one
of the other officers (who ducked), and was fired upon by the other
officer. I've seen the FULL video from BOTH patrol car in dash
cameras, and I would have shot him too.



On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:02:00 GMT, "DexAZ" <dexter2002@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
>"NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
>> Dateline: 1998
>>
>> As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
>officers,
>> Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
>> Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
>hand
>> was a handgun.
>>
>
>Was he asked/ordered by the officers to exit the vehicle? Or did he
>suddenly jump out in order to give the officers a piece of his mind? Common
>sense tells you NOT to get out of your car during a police stop _until_ you
>are asked/ordered to by the officers. If you exit a car with ANYTHING in
>your hands during a traffic stop is simply begging for trouble.
>
>DexAZ
>

He jumped out of the car (after a lengthy slow speed chase in which
the vehicle crossed the center line several times), yelled something
at one of the approaching officers, pointed something black at one
of the other officers (who ducked), and was fired upon by the other
officer. I've seen the FULL video from BOTH patrol car in dash
cameras, and I would have shot him too.



On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:02:00 GMT, "DexAZ" <dexter2002@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
>"NiceGuyTJ" <niceguytj@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20031109180414.26109.00000794@mb-m16.aol.com...
>> Dateline: 1998
>>
>> As he exited his vehicle after being stopped by Omaha Police Division
>officers,
>> Omaha native and Gulf War veteran Marvin Ammons was shot to death by Omaha
>> Police Division officers who claimed they believed the cell phone in his
>hand
>> was a handgun.
>>
>
>Was he asked/ordered by the officers to exit the vehicle? Or did he
>suddenly jump out in order to give the officers a piece of his mind? Common
>sense tells you NOT to get out of your car during a police stop _until_ you
>are asked/ordered to by the officers. If you exit a car with ANYTHING in
>your hands during a traffic stop is simply begging for trouble.
>
>DexAZ
>