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  1. #16
    Dave C.
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    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?


    "> Frankly, I get the same behavior on my Cingular phone today. Not very
    > often, but often enough to be very noticeable. My phone will be dead
    > silent and then all of the sudden alert me to a new voicemail. But the
    > phone never rang...
    >


    That's strange. I haven't noticed that on Cingular, but then I'm on GSM
    nation. -Dave





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  2. #17
    Bernard Farquart
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    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?


    "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "> Frankly, I get the same behavior on my Cingular phone today. Not very
    > > often, but often enough to be very noticeable. My phone will be dead
    > > silent and then all of the sudden alert me to a new voicemail. But the
    > > phone never rang...
    > >

    >
    > That's strange. I haven't noticed that on Cingular, but then I'm on GSM
    > nation. -Dave
    >

    I have noticed the same thing, with three different phones
    over the course of three years. Pretty random, no rhyme
    or reason to it just sometimes it vibrates at me about
    a voicemail.
    I did have a problem with one certain ring
    that was assigned to my girlfriends number, I changed
    it and that solved the problem. Do you have custom
    rings set up? Is it one certain ring? Is it one number?

    I was on gsm nation, now extended local gsm home.


    >






  3. #18
    Steve
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    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    Hello

    Cingular is real poor now. There GSM service is real bad. My close
    friend is a RF tech for Cingular. Well Guys hate to break the bad news
    There RF techs use Nextel phones to work on the Towers. We have 2,000
    nextel phones for our Company and all have the free in. Stay away from
    Cingular GSM for 12 months. You will find lots of very unhappy people.

    From steve
    Fleet OPS


    On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:21:09 -0400, "Myself" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Elmo, please dont tell me you listened to that. I am in no way saying Nextel
    >has the greatist coverage on Earth but I am saying that it all depends on
    >where you'll use it. I dont have to explain this, as that gets discussed at
    >least 3 times a week on these newsgroups. Not to mention, this guy seems to
    >be all hyped up on emotion. We all know emotion is a reliable source of
    >solid wisdom... Oh, and if it matters my Nextel has better service than my
    >friends' Cingulars where I go to college. Now, this is not true for any
    >carrier everywhere or every carrier anywhere, but it ain't no Kia! Ask
    >around, see what works best in your area, but please dont get caught up by
    >one opinion.
    >
    >
    >
    >"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> > Cingular GSM . . . Great handsets, reliable network, not much more to

    >say
    >> > but it just WORKS

    >>
    >> Well, that's good to know. That was an underlying question of mine. I
    >> currently have the Cingular Nation plan from about 2 years ago, where
    >> every call is a local call (just like the current Nation GAIT plan), and
    >> was/am hesitant to move to GSM.
    >>
    >> But I figured, if I'm going to move to Cingular GSM, I might as well
    >> look around at everyone else, then, including Nextel. I've had Nextel
    >> before, and in general your assessment isn't too far off the mark--but
    >> that was 3 years ago when I left them. I don't know how it is today.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > If people try to call your nextel
    >> > handset and you are in an area with a GOOD signal . . . they will either

    >get
    >> > a busy signal (while you are NOT USING THE HANDSET), or their calls will

    >go
    >> > straight to voicemail. (free WHAT?!?!? . . . there's no such thing as
    >> > incoming calls on the nextel network!!!) -Dave

    >>
    >> Frankly, I get the same behavior on my Cingular phone today. Not very
    >> often, but often enough to be very noticeable. My phone will be dead
    >> silent and then all of the sudden alert me to a new voicemail. But the
    >> phone never rang...
    >>

    >


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  4. #19
    Scott
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    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?


    >
    > Nextel . . . ****ty selection of ****ty handsets, impossible to find a
    > signal in most areas, nearly impossible to make calls where you DO find a
    > signal and forget about incoming calls. If people try to call your nextel
    > handset and you are in an area with a GOOD signal . . . they will either get
    > a busy signal (while you are NOT USING THE HANDSET), or their calls will go
    > straight to voicemail. (free WHAT?!?!? . . . there's no such thing as
    > incoming calls on the nextel network!!!) -Dave


    I find it ironic that I am about to defend Nextel as I have a love/hate
    relationship with them. I respect the fact that you may have had issues
    with Nextel in your area, but that does not transcend everywhere else. I
    was with Verizon for 16-17 years (Bell Atlantic/Bell Atlantic-Nynex) and
    then ATTWS for a year. In my experiences, Nextel's coverage is no worse
    or better than anywhere else. In other words every carrier has good and
    bad spots. I travel the US regularly and have mostly positive coverage
    with Nextel. Again, people who know me would be shocked to learn of my
    defending Nextel, but, the truth is the truth.




  5. #20
    Dave C.
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    >
    > I find it ironic that I am about to defend Nextel as I have a love/hate
    > relationship with them. I respect the fact that you may have had issues
    > with Nextel in your area, but that does not transcend everywhere else. I
    > was with Verizon for 16-17 years (Bell Atlantic/Bell Atlantic-Nynex) and
    > then ATTWS for a year. In my experiences, Nextel's coverage is no worse
    > or better than anywhere else. In other words every carrier has good and
    > bad spots. I travel the US regularly and have mostly positive coverage
    > with Nextel. Again, people who know me would be shocked to learn of my
    > defending Nextel, but, the truth is the truth.


    I've been forced (by employers) to carry Nextel handsets for years. I work
    all over the U.S., concentrating mainly in the area of (North of DC). To be
    fair, the nextel handset does seem to work a little better when I go
    somewhere that requires airline travel. If you're anywhere in the
    Northeastern U.S., though, Nextel sucks, to put it bluntly. I don't even
    carry the thing anymore. I leave it home where it has a really STRONG
    signal. I get complaints of busy signals all the time. I know the
    complaints are real, as I get busy signals myself just calling the thing to
    try to check my messages. (I use my cingular handset for business, but have
    to give out the number of the nextel handset, so i need to check the nextel
    messages periodically) I got so frickin' fed up of hearing the voicemail
    chime when the phone never rang, or seeing a strong signal showing just to
    have a fast "beep" sound trying to make phone calls, I finally gave up. Why
    waste a half an hour or more EVERY DAY wrestling with a cellular service
    that doesn't work? It's not the handset, either. Every handset I've
    carried (numerous) on the nextel network behaved the same way.

    (I guess we'll agree to disagree)

    Cingular does have problems now and then, but very infrequent. I am
    soooooooo happy with cingular service. I believe I owe my job to them.
    Yeah, it's a personal handset, but damn, it helps me GET **** DONE!!!
    -Dave






  6. #21

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    On Wed, 5 May 2004 19:21:29 -0400, "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> I find it ironic that I am about to defend Nextel as I have a love/hate
    >> relationship with them. I respect the fact that you may have had issues
    >> with Nextel in your area, but that does not transcend everywhere else. I
    >> was with Verizon for 16-17 years (Bell Atlantic/Bell Atlantic-Nynex) and
    >> then ATTWS for a year. In my experiences, Nextel's coverage is no worse
    >> or better than anywhere else. In other words every carrier has good and
    >> bad spots. I travel the US regularly and have mostly positive coverage
    >> with Nextel. Again, people who know me would be shocked to learn of my
    >> defending Nextel, but, the truth is the truth.

    >
    >I've been forced (by employers) to carry Nextel handsets for years. I work
    >all over the U.S., concentrating mainly in the area of (North of DC). To be
    >fair, the nextel handset does seem to work a little better when I go
    >somewhere that requires airline travel. If you're anywhere in the
    >Northeastern U.S., though, Nextel sucks, to put it bluntly.

    [snip]

    Where in the "Northeastern U.S." are you talking about?

    I've found Nextel to be better than AT&TWS along I-95 in N.H. and
    Massachusetts. Have had no problems with Nextel in the Boston area; it's
    fine on Rte. 128. Also, while driving from SE N.H. to New York City and
    back -- 3 recent round trips and as part of one of them I went out to the
    Eastern tip of Long Island -- I have no problems with Nextel coverage.




  7. #22
    Scott
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?


    > I've been forced (by employers) to carry Nextel handsets for years. I work
    > all over the U.S., concentrating mainly in the area of (North of DC). To be
    > fair, the nextel handset does seem to work a little better when I go
    > somewhere that requires airline travel. If you're anywhere in the
    > Northeastern U.S., though, Nextel sucks, to put it bluntly. I don't even
    > carry the thing anymore. I leave it home where it has a really STRONG
    > signal. I get complaints of busy signals all the time. I know the
    > complaints are real, as I get busy signals myself just calling the thing to
    > try to check my messages. (I use my cingular handset for business, but have
    > to give out the number of the nextel handset, so i need to check the nextel
    > messages periodically) I got so frickin' fed up of hearing the voicemail
    > chime when the phone never rang, or seeing a strong signal showing just to
    > have a fast "beep" sound trying to make phone calls, I finally gave up. Why
    > waste a half an hour or more EVERY DAY wrestling with a cellular service
    > that doesn't work? It's not the handset, either. Every handset I've
    > carried (numerous) on the nextel network behaved the same way.
    >
    > (I guess we'll agree to disagree)
    >
    > Cingular does have problems now and then, but very infrequent. I am
    > soooooooo happy with cingular service. I believe I owe my job to them.
    > Yeah, it's a personal handset, but damn, it helps me GET **** DONE!!!
    > -Dave
    >
    >
    >


    I will not dispute your experiences because they are just that, your
    personal experiences. As for me, I left Verizon because they have awful
    coverage where I live so it did not make sense to continue with them. I
    was VERY happy with ATTWS (TDMA only experience) but the lure of free
    incoming calls via Nextel and the direct connect was too much to ignore
    for us. Again, this is a personal thing.

    As for Nextel's coverage, I would say this. *IF* I lived in NYC or
    traveled there more often on business, I would NOT choose Nextel. I have
    had plenty of coverage issues with Nextel there.



  8. #23
    Dave C.
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    > Where in the "Northeastern U.S." are you talking about?
    >
    > I've found Nextel to be better than AT&TWS along I-95 in N.H. and
    > Massachusetts. Have had no problems with Nextel in the Boston area; it's
    > fine on Rte. 128. Also, while driving from SE N.H. to New York City and
    > back -- 3 recent round trips and as part of one of them I went out to the
    > Eastern tip of Long Island -- I have no problems with Nextel coverage.


    Well your experience wouldn't disagree with my experiences. I also have
    noticed a slight improvement in coverage inside the 128 loop and along I-95.
    Unfortunately, I'm almost never working in that area, though I'm all over
    VT, NH, ME, MA, CT, RI, NY, DE, NJ and MD. Other states as well, but not as
    often. -Dave





  9. #24
    Elmo P. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Myself" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Elmo, please dont tell me you listened to that. I am in no way saying Nextel
    > has the greatist coverage on Earth but I am saying that it all depends on
    > where you'll use it. I dont have to explain this, as that gets discussed at
    > least 3 times a week on these newsgroups. Not to mention, this guy seems to
    > be all hyped up on emotion. We all know emotion is a reliable source of
    > solid wisdom... Oh, and if it matters my Nextel has better service than my
    > friends' Cingulars where I go to college. Now, this is not true for any
    > carrier everywhere or every carrier anywhere, but it ain't no Kia! Ask
    > around, see what works best in your area, but please dont get caught up by
    > one opinion.
    >


    Not to worry, I won't.

    I figure Nextel's service is about equivalent, coverage-wise, to
    Cingular's GSM service.

    Since I have Cingular TDMA right now, with nation coverage, I'm spoiled.
    If there's a signal--and there's virtually always a signal--I'm making a
    "local" call. I know that if I move to Nextel, that coverage area will
    lessen--but no less than if I move my Cingular account from TDMA to GSM.

    I love the idea of GAIT, but dammit, why did they make 2 phones and then
    stop?




  10. #25
    Evan Platt
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:36:05 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Does anyone have any opinions on comparing the value of Cingular's
    >rollover minutes (GSM) to Nextel's free incoming plans?
    >
    >I'm leaning toward the Nextel free incoming as being the more
    >attractive, but maybe I'm missing something.
    >
    >Thanks.


    Keep in mind, Cingular's rollover minutes require a two year contract.

    Minutes only roll over for the first year.

    Evan
    --
    To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.




  11. #26
    Paul Cardoza
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    On Mon, 10 May 2004 07:24:24 -0700, Evan Platt
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Keep in mind, Cingular's rollover minutes require a two year contract.
    >
    >Minutes only roll over for the first year.
    >
    >Evan


    Say what!?!?!? Cingular rolled over minutes expire after one year.
    You cannot pile them up indefinitely, but they will always roll
    up..........



  12. #27
    Elmo P. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Evan Platt <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >I'm leaning toward the Nextel free incoming as being the more
    > >attractive, but maybe I'm missing something.
    > >
    > >Thanks.

    >
    > Keep in mind, Cingular's rollover minutes require a two year contract.
    >
    > Minutes only roll over for the first year.


    Actually, the only rollover minutes you can dip into (should you need
    to) are those that have rolled over within the past 12 months.

    It isn't that only the first year's minutes roll over; it's that unused
    rollover minutes expire after 12 months, that's all.

    I'm still deeply considering Nextel's free incoming service.




  13. #28
    Steve
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    Cingular Roll Over only good for 1 year read the fine print

    From steve

    On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:40:36 -0400, Paul Cardoza
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 10 May 2004 07:24:24 -0700, Evan Platt
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Keep in mind, Cingular's rollover minutes require a two year contract.
    >>
    >>Minutes only roll over for the first year.
    >>
    >>Evan

    >
    >Say what!?!?!? Cingular rolled over minutes expire after one year.
    >You cannot pile them up indefinitely, but they will always roll
    >up..........


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  14. #29
    Elmo P. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Cingular Roll Over only good for 1 year read the fine print


    It's not hard to read the fine print. Why don't you post it here?

    I'll post it for you:

    > Rollover Minutes: Rollover Minutes apply to Cingular Nation GSM Plans $39.99
    > and higher. Unused anytime minutes expire: (1) after twelve months; (2)
    > immediately upon default or if customer changes rate plans to a non-rollover
    > plan.


    Rollover minutes expire after 12 months.

    So if I accrue rollover minutes for the month of April, they expire next
    April--12 months later. But the rollover minutes I accrue next January
    don't expire next April; they expire after 12 months, which is the
    following January.

    You, sir, are why the world *needs* lawyers. You remind me of a man I
    know, someone whom you can't trust to give you simple directions to the
    nearest gas station--because he's inable to understand anything simple
    and/or explain it to someone else in simple terms.




  15. #30
    bosshog
    Guest

    Re: Cingular rollover vs. Nextel free incoming?

    Get the fee incoming 600 plan or simply get one of the new flex
    plans. Either way the incoming 600 gives you 10 hours of out going
    talk time. Which I find to be more than enough since I seem to live on
    the darn phone.

    The new flex plans offer the same type of plan as the Cingular
    rollover plan.



    On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:36:05 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Does anyone have any opinions on comparing the value of Cingular's
    >rollover minutes (GSM) to Nextel's free incoming plans?
    >
    >I'm leaning toward the Nextel free incoming as being the more
    >attractive, but maybe I'm missing something.
    >
    >Thanks.





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