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- 12-16-2004, 11:28 AM #16Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
Rod Golding wrote:
> I can not believe my eyes. You people are talking about a couple of cell
> towers and how it will "improve your coverage in your small little corner of
> your world". What about the thousands of people that are going to lose there
> jobs on both the Sprint and Nextel side.
Have layoffs been announced yet? No, they haven't. And quite frankly,
those jobs are just as much at risk if Sprint and Nextel DIDN'T merge.
These two companies have to expand one way or another, or lose out, and
that puts jobs in danger no matter hwo you slice it.
I was an opponent of the merger, but after seeing the presentation, I'm
cautiously neutral to it. And I'm still certain that if people do get
laid off, those who are truly worth their salt will be able to find jobs
with competitors. The cell networks in the US still have a long way to
go to build out and upgrade.
> And on top of it Sprint will be
> able to completely screw up Nextel as they have their own company and look
> what they have to do, buy a profitable company in order to make their
> company look good.
Actually, I see it this way: Nextel was on borrowed time with dead end
technology and no clear upgrade path. A potentially chaotic spectrum
swap was near. The easy way to avoid getting caught under such traps is
to BE bought out by another company to help absorb the heavy costs
ahead. If anything, Nextel is using Sprint as a life raft to transition
to CDMA, which is why I had my misgivings about this merger.
Remember, it takes two to tango, and Nextel could have very easily said
"we're not for sale."
> It is indeed a sad day in the world of cellular and once
> again corporate greed prevails.
Oh, boo hoo.
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- 12-16-2004, 11:29 AM #17Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
Rod Golding wrote:
> And how much is enough? 20%, 30%, 40%? More?
20, 30, 40% of what? Your waning IQ?
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- 12-16-2004, 11:32 AM #18Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
J A Haynes wrote:
> I was all excited about the arrangement until I found out that Sprint bought
> Nextel and not the other way around. I hear terrible things about Sprint,
> especially in the arena of billing and customer service. So, now I'm really
> worried.
That's funny, I've EXPERIENCED (not just heard) very bad things while I
had service with Nextel, and EXPERIENCED (not just heard) far better
service on Sprint.
At least Sprint credits payments when they receive them, rather than
putting them in a "lockbox" for three weeks as Nextel did, virtually
ensuring that accounts are frequently running a balance and making it
infinitely more difficult to track down how much you *really* owe them.
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- 12-16-2004, 11:39 AM #19Hot RodGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
Please, use your head...you must be from the east coast
"Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rod Golding wrote:
>> And how much is enough? 20%, 30%, 40%? More?
>
>
> 20, 30, 40% of what? Your waning IQ?
>
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- 12-16-2004, 01:30 PM #20JosephGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:52:42 GMT, "Rod Golding"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>And also supply jobs to the community which in turn spends money on cell
>plans, all a big circle.
You don't have a very good grasp of reality do you?
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- 12-16-2004, 04:35 PM #21Steve SobolGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
John R. Copeland wrote:
> "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>.... and they have a crappy reputation to
>>overcome because they lost a lot of customers back a couple years ago. But
>>they've made huge improvements in many areas.
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>
> You may recall that many of those lost customers were terminated by Sprint.
Yes, this is true too.
> They were deadbeats signed on by the failed policies of the previous
> administration, policies of marketing to people with poor credit histories.
> Gary Forsee came on board in late 2002, and has improved Sprint greatly.
I agree. Len Lauer had made some strides to fix things before that, though.
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- 12-16-2004, 05:54 PM #22Bill CrockerGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
As a current Nextel subscriber, at first glance I wasn't too happy with
this. Today, I switched the wife, and myself, over to Sprint, got two new
(free) phones, and we're saving $55.00/month! Sometimes change can be a
good!
Bill Crocker
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> http://myturl.com/001pR
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- 12-16-2004, 08:54 PM #23Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
"Rod Golding" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I can not believe my eyes. You people are talking about a couple of cell
> towers and how it will "improve your coverage in your small little corner
of
> your world". What about the thousands of people that are going to lose
there
> jobs on both the Sprint and Nextel side. And on top of it Sprint will be
> able to completely screw up Nextel as they have their own company and look
> what they have to do, buy a profitable company in order to make their
> company look good. It is indeed a sad day in the world of cellular and
once
> again corporate greed prevails.
>
You could probably use a little information before spouting off like that.
If you had taken the time to research, you would have noticed that of the 8
executive positions named so far, 3 are from Sprint and 5 from Nextel. If
you had read a little more, you would see that Sprint stockholders only hold
51% of the new company, and this was done for tax breaks on the spinoff of
the landline division. Could it be that 2% of current Sprint stock is held
in portfolios that also contain Nextel stock? If so, there is no advantage
to either company. Maybe they do know what they are doing, and all of the
Internet CEO wannabes are wrong. Although I have to admit that the noise
about this is quite amusing.
- 12-16-2004, 09:00 PM #24Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
"J A Haynes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I was all excited about the arrangement until I found out that Sprint
bought
> Nextel and not the other way around. I hear terrible things about Sprint,
> especially in the arena of billing and customer service. So, now I'm
really
> worried.
>
Why worry? Both companies have strengths, and they happen to be in
different areas. Sprint has the edge in sales, advertising, marketing and
engineering, and Nextel in customer service, billing, employee satisfaction
and cost management. If they play off the strengths of each company, they
come out much stronger than anyone else in the industry and become much more
attractive to customers. The doomsayers here are convinced that this will
never happen, but it only makes sense.
- 12-17-2004, 07:02 AM #25
I agree, I still think that this will make sense in the long run. After all nextel wanted to moved to a CDMA system for voice anyway this just makes it a little easier for them and it sounds like they will keep the PTT on the IDEN network for quite some time so we don't have to worry about that turning into the PTT that some of the other carriers offer.
- 12-17-2004, 08:28 PM #26Chris CowlesGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
Whether sprint bought nextel or nextel bought sprint is all a matter of
optimizing the accounting for the surviving organization. What matters is
who's the surviving management.
"J A Haynes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I was all excited about the arrangement until I found out that Sprint
>bought Nextel and not the other way around. I hear terrible things about
>Sprint, especially in the arena of billing and customer service. So, now
>I'm really worried.
- 12-19-2004, 12:12 PM #27Bill CrockerGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
It didn't go well at all with Sprint. I'm back to Nextel.
Bill Crocker
"Bill Crocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> As a current Nextel subscriber, at first glance I wasn't too happy with
> this. Today, I switched the wife, and myself, over to Sprint, got two new
> (free) phones, and we're saving $55.00/month! Sometimes change can be a
> good!
>
> Bill Crocker
>
>
> "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> From NEWS.COM:
>>
>> http://myturl.com/001pR
>>
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>> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) /
>> [email protected]
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>> Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three
>> kids.
>
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- 12-19-2004, 02:57 PM #28evadnikufesinGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:22:38 -0800, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
wrote:
> From NEWS.COM:
>
>http://myturl.com/001pR
We, as Nextel users, are all DOOMED.
- 12-25-2004, 07:56 AM #29TexGuest
Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge
"Bill Crocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It didn't go well at all with Sprint. I'm back to Nextel.
>
> Bill Crocker
Welllll...are you just going to keep us guessing as to what made you switch
back to Nextel?
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