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  1. #16
    Rick F.
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    Re: Sprint/Nextel Merger

    In article <[email protected]>, Notan wrote:
    > Name wrote:
    >>
    >> Anyone know if they're are any plans to add Nextel service on existing
    >> Sprint towers?

    >
    > Or vice versa.
    >
    > Wouldn't *that* be nice... Better coverage for *everyone*!


    can you hear me now?



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  2. #17
    Scott
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    Re: Sprint/Nextel Merger


    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Scott wrote:
    > > "Anonymous" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >>Sprints PCS frequencies. Nextel will go bye-bye as we know it within 2

    > >
    > > yrs.
    > >
    > >>Sprint working on 2 way radio feature called Q-talk. Nextel will exist

    > >
    > > only
    > >
    > >>for gov't agencies or corporations who wish to pay *DEARLY* for PTT.
    > >>Remember, it's not a merger - Sprint Aquired Nextel.
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > Not quite- you don't piss away cellular licenses and force everybody to
    > > existing frequencies- that's how you get capacity issues.

    >
    > Yes, well, there's one little problem with those "cellular" frequencies.
    > They're not cellular. Nextel's licenses are for SMR (Specialized
    > Mobile Radio) and the FCC has wanted for a long time to move Nextel off
    > those frequencies because of the inordinate amount of complaints they're
    > received from law enforcement and public safet agencies, who have noted
    > that iDEN wreaks some serious havoc on their equipment in terms of
    > spurious interference.
    >
    > Sprint has committed to maintaining iDEN until at least 2010. But much
    > sooner than that, they will need to migrate the network to another
    > frequency band. IIRC, the frequency swap is going to be for a chunk of
    > spectrum in the 2.6GHz range, if the FCC approves.
    >

    Old news- the swap is already occurring and has already receivedd FCC
    approval- and to 1.9 gHz, not 2.6. The 2.5 gHz spectrum that both companies
    had licenses for is going to be used for their data network.





  3. #18
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint/Nextel Merger

    Thomas wrote:
    > Rumor has it Motorola
    > already has a phone that is dual freq. capable ready to go when we are. But
    > another thing is the when the merger went through there are areas on both
    > sides that are listed as noncompete....which means they cannot go in there
    > and setup shop.



    To be more specific, both and Sprint and Nextel share the same dirty
    little secret: not all of their network is corporate-owned. And this is
    something neither company really wanted customers to know, but the
    merger has pretty much let the cat out of the bag.

    When Sprint and Nextel were just getting started, they both decided
    (separately, of course) that it would be in their best interests, to
    focus on large metropolitan areas and build out corporate-owned networks
    there, and then allow "affiliates," or separate wireless holding
    companies, to build out second and third-tier locations using their own
    financial resources. Sprint and Nextel would then market their
    respective affiliates' areas as part of one big happy wireless family.
    In return for the doing all the grunt work, the affiliates would be able
    to market themselves under the Sprint brand (or Nextel for Nextel's
    affiliates), let Sprint or Nextel handle all of the back-room functions
    like billing, distribution and customer service issues, and roll in the
    dough whenever a customer "roamed" on the affiliates network. To the
    end user of course, this was all transparent and the word "roam" was
    never uttered, but behind the scenes, roaming revenue would changes
    hands between the corproate parents and their affiliates.

    This worked wonderfully for Nextel throughout its life, which as far as
    I know had a decent relationship with Nextel Partners, Inc (the company
    that served as Nextel's affiliate and owns all of the gear in rural and
    less-than-prime metro locations). But for Sprint, things weren't so
    great. While it worked out fine at first, Sprint kept trying to pay the
    affiliates less and less for every minute that a Sprint user "roamed" on
    an affiliate. The affiliates fought back in their own ways: some bought
    smaller affiliates to increase their negotiating clout with Sprint, some
    sued Sprint in court, and others declared bankruptcy, putting Sprint at
    risk of losing those assets and network coverage unless they ultimately
    bailed out the affiliate and purhcased its assets.

    Then came the merger, and all hell broke loose. Both Nextel and Sprint
    had clauses in their affiliate agreements that stated that neither
    company would "compete" with their respective affiliates. This was
    basically a form of affiliate job security, ensuring that the parent
    company wouldn't muscle in on a market and leave an affiliate out in the
    cold so long as the agreement was in effect. The problem is, the merger
    means that the "new Sprint" now has a LOT of Sprint-owned network
    coverage that overlaps with Nextel Partners, and a LOT of Nextel-owned
    network coverage that overlaps with Sprint's many affiliates. In the
    affiliates' eyes, this constitutes a violation of the noncompete clauses
    now that both are essentially one company.

    So now, shareholders of Nextel Partners are forcing the new
    Sprint-Nextel to valuate their shares and buy them out, to the tune of a
    billion or so bucks. Likewise, the many and varied Sprint affiliates
    are each doing their own thing: some are pressuring Sprint to buy them
    out to the tune of another few billion dollars or so (and at least two
    have succeeded), and others are suing in an attempt to undo the merger
    outright.

    Until these legal issues are resolved, Sprint is limited in where it can
    leverage the benefits of the merger, and how it can make the networks
    appear unified.

    Now in their defense, Sprint and Nextel aren't the only companies to
    "exaggerate" their coverage using affiliates and preferred "transparent"
    roaming agreements. Nearly all US carriers do this. However, Sprint
    and Nextel were the only two companies who preferred not to *tell* you
    what was going on. On Verizon, Cingular or T-Mobile, you're often told
    when you're on an "extended" network. But Sprint never told its
    customers that places like parts of Texas, Louisiana, Arizona, New
    Mexico, Kansas, Oregon and Washington (just to name a few) were actually
    networks run by third-party companies who, because their ONLY business
    was to pretend to be Sprint or Nextel, often ended up in some very
    precarious financial positions (some even coming very close to closing
    their doors and turning off their networks).

    The other carriers (Verizon, Cingular, et. al.) also preferred a
    preferred roaming-style agreement rather than an outright affiliate
    arrangement. This way they can appear to provide "extended" coverage by
    contractin with other cell carriers, but don't end up in a legal bind
    when Cingular buys a company like AT&T Wireless, or when Verizon chooses
    to either buy out a mom & pop or build out a new network on its own.


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  4. #19
    A
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    Re: Sprint/Nextel Merger

    WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YOU ARE SO WRONG





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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaiah Beard
    Scott wrote:
    > "Anonymous" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Sprints PCS frequencies. Nextel will go bye-bye as we know it within 2

    >
    > yrs.
    >
    >>Sprint working on 2 way radio feature called Q-talk. Nextel will exist

    >
    > only
    >
    >>for gov't agencies or corporations who wish to pay *DEARLY* for PTT.
    >>Remember, it's not a merger - Sprint Aquired Nextel.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Not quite- you don't piss away cellular licenses and force everybody to
    > existing frequencies- that's how you get capacity issues.


    Yes, well, there's one little problem with those "cellular" frequencies.
    They're not cellular. Nextel's licenses are for SMR (Specialized
    Mobile Radio) and the FCC has wanted for a long time to move Nextel off
    those frequencies because of the inordinate amount of complaints they're
    received from law enforcement and public safet agencies, who have noted
    that iDEN wreaks some serious havoc on their equipment in terms of
    spurious interference.

    Sprint has committed to maintaining iDEN until at least 2010. But much
    sooner than that, they will need to migrate the network to another
    frequency band. IIRC, the frequency swap is going to be for a chunk of
    spectrum in the 2.6GHz range, if the FCC approves.

    agreed, but I am fairly sure that Nextel got FCC approval for the higher 2.6 GHz spectrum several months ago and will start to move services to the higher frequecy in conjunction with sprint in about 2 years.


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