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- 07-31-2003, 06:11 AM #1Matthew E.W. ManiaciGuest
To best qualify any one customer as a Nextel subscriber you need to look
at this carrier from the standpoint of its products, services, and
network integrity.
This is a company that may never cover the pucker brush in certain rural
areas... instead of a few island sites in a rural area the company seems
to take those sites and overlay them in a populated areas providing for
greater redundancy.
This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
carriers.
More and more of the individuals who were part of the target market for
Nextel began to have personal wireless needs... So the popularity of
these products began gain momentum. Main steam consumers started to look
at Nextel. These customers have be qualified properly by the
representative they are dealing with. I have found the Internet and
telesales do not properly qualify Nextel customers from the perspective
of whether or not a prospect is a current wireless user... to better
understand the customer's expectation of the network. The general
consumer and wireless handset users have pre-conceived notions of
wireless services... either from their personal experience or purported
by well polished advertising.
Because Nextel is an all digital network and does not have an analog
backbone... because Nextel will concentrate sites in a given area to
provide true reliability in that area... because Nextel handsets are
built better... because this was a two-way trunked radio technology that
coupled cellular functionality (not a phone with a two-way radio built
in)... there need to be a certain understanding on the part of new
subscribers. It is the job of the vendor or representative to qualify
you. If you enter into a wireless service thinking that there is parity
between all of the players, shame on you. Nextel is THE MOST RELIABLE
NETWORK where they have deployed the network.
Is it the "clearest" digital technology?... I don't think most customers
are digital officianatos and digital quality is not that critical...
Inflection is carried effectively on the Nextel network and thats what
counts. As far as 3G goes my Nextel handsets accesses and navigates the
web quicker than any other web enabled handset I have played with... The
applications play perfectly with the network, hardware, and software.
FUNCTION, This is the focus of this carrier. Business tools, That is
what they install into their network and handsets. Durability, That
which is necessary to support the field use of mobile phones.
Yeah I am a Nextel fan... they are the only carrier that I can sustain a
call from east to west on the Route 4 corridor of my home state,
Vermont. NO other carrier can claim that. They still build a 3 watt
product for customers with more demanding needs. This is a company whose
customer service issues "transaction numbers" to callers so that they
may track customer service issues. I could go on... but I realize I have
gone on long enough.
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- 07-31-2003, 06:29 PM #2P HowardGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
I would like to refute the statement that Nextel is the most reliable
carrier in the areas that they provide network coverage.
In the Baltimore/Washington DC area, Verizon Wireless has far superior
call connection and call retention averages... far less dropped calls
and ineffective call attempts. I know this from personal experience as
well as third party articles in:
The Washington Post
Consumer Reports
JD Powers and Associates
The Baltimore Sun
The Carroll County Gazette
just to name a few.
What is ironic is that Washington DC is the backyard of Nextel... their
HQ is in Reston VA, only 10 minutes away. Last I checked, around 495,
the capital beltway which is travelled by millions each day, the average
Nextel phone experiences 4 areas of weak signal that drop any phone call
in progress. VZW has zero weak spots around the Capital Beltway. If I
remember correctly, in the CR and JD Power studies, Nextel wasn't even
in the top 3 for network quality.
Just my 2c...
--
Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
[email protected] (Matthew E.W. Maniaci) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> To best qualify any one customer as a Nextel subscriber you need to look
> at this carrier from the standpoint of its products, services, and
> network integrity.
>
> This is a company that may never cover the pucker brush in certain rural
> areas... instead of a few island sites in a rural area the company seems
> to take those sites and overlay them in a populated areas providing for
> greater redundancy.
>
> This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
> technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
> services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
> place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
> enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
> maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
> maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
> the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
> carriers.
>
> More and more of the individuals who were part of the target market for
> Nextel began to have personal wireless needs... So the popularity of
> these products began gain momentum. Main steam consumers started to look
> at Nextel. These customers have be qualified properly by the
> representative they are dealing with. I have found the Internet and
> telesales do not properly qualify Nextel customers from the perspective
> of whether or not a prospect is a current wireless user... to better
> understand the customer's expectation of the network. The general
> consumer and wireless handset users have pre-conceived notions of
> wireless services... either from their personal experience or purported
> by well polished advertising.
>
> Because Nextel is an all digital network and does not have an analog
> backbone... because Nextel will concentrate sites in a given area to
> provide true reliability in that area... because Nextel handsets are
> built better... because this was a two-way trunked radio technology that
> coupled cellular functionality (not a phone with a two-way radio built
> in)... there need to be a certain understanding on the part of new
> subscribers. It is the job of the vendor or representative to qualify
> you. If you enter into a wireless service thinking that there is parity
> between all of the players, shame on you. Nextel is THE MOST RELIABLE
> NETWORK where they have deployed the network.
>
> Is it the "clearest" digital technology?... I don't think most customers
> are digital officianatos and digital quality is not that critical...
> Inflection is carried effectively on the Nextel network and thats what
> counts. As far as 3G goes my Nextel handsets accesses and navigates the
> web quicker than any other web enabled handset I have played with... The
> applications play perfectly with the network, hardware, and software.
> FUNCTION, This is the focus of this carrier. Business tools, That is
> what they install into their network and handsets. Durability, That
> which is necessary to support the field use of mobile phones.
>
> Yeah I am a Nextel fan... they are the only carrier that I can sustain a
> call from east to west on the Route 4 corridor of my home state,
> Vermont. NO other carrier can claim that. They still build a 3 watt
> product for customers with more demanding needs. This is a company whose
> customer service issues "transaction numbers" to callers so that they
> may track customer service issues. I could go on... but I realize I have
> gone on long enough.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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- 07-31-2003, 09:45 PM #3Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Matthew E.W. Maniaci <[email protected]> said to him:
> This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
> technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
> services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
> place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
> enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
> maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
> maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
> the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
> carriers.
This posting was *very* well thought out and written, Matthew...
except for one thing.
Nextel is *not* recommended (I believe it's in the terms of service)
for life-safety application. The network is not now, nor has it ever
been, engineered to that level of call-completion, unlike, say,
Motorola's TETRA trunking system (which has *really* spiffy looking
handsets), which *is* intended for public safety communications.
And yeah, I've got an i390 that *still* works.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 07-31-2003, 11:05 PM #4Jason LoweGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
I find it funny that you only talk about the phones and not the service!
We all know the service is terrible!!!
"Jay R. Ashworth" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Stanley settled back into the couch, and
> Matthew E.W. Maniaci <[email protected]> said to him:
> > This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
> > technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
> > services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
> > place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
> > enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
> > maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
> > maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
> > the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
> > carriers.
>
> This posting was *very* well thought out and written, Matthew...
> except for one thing.
>
> Nextel is *not* recommended (I believe it's in the terms of service)
> for life-safety application. The network is not now, nor has it ever
> been, engineered to that level of call-completion, unlike, say,
> Motorola's TETRA trunking system (which has *really* spiffy looking
> handsets), which *is* intended for public safety communications.
>
> And yeah, I've got an i390 that *still* works.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
> Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
> The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
> Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
>
> God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
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- 08-02-2003, 05:35 AM #5OCK913Guest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
I'm sorry, did you say "not in the top 3?" I think you should re-read the
2003 JD Power report, I think you have some mis-information.
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/9426.shtml
"P Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would like to refute the statement that Nextel is the most reliable
> carrier in the areas that they provide network coverage.
>
> In the Baltimore/Washington DC area, Verizon Wireless has far superior
> call connection and call retention averages... far less dropped calls
> and ineffective call attempts. I know this from personal experience as
> well as third party articles in:
> The Washington Post
> Consumer Reports
> JD Powers and Associates
> The Baltimore Sun
> The Carroll County Gazette
> just to name a few.
>
> What is ironic is that Washington DC is the backyard of Nextel... their
> HQ is in Reston VA, only 10 minutes away. Last I checked, around 495,
> the capital beltway which is travelled by millions each day, the average
> Nextel phone experiences 4 areas of weak signal that drop any phone call
> in progress. VZW has zero weak spots around the Capital Beltway. If I
> remember correctly, in the CR and JD Power studies, Nextel wasn't even
> in the top 3 for network quality.
>
> Just my 2c...
>
> --
> Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
>
>
> [email protected] (Matthew E.W. Maniaci) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > To best qualify any one customer as a Nextel subscriber you need to look
> > at this carrier from the standpoint of its products, services, and
> > network integrity.
> >
> > This is a company that may never cover the pucker brush in certain rural
> > areas... instead of a few island sites in a rural area the company seems
> > to take those sites and overlay them in a populated areas providing for
> > greater redundancy.
> >
> > This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
> > technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
> > services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
> > place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
> > enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
> > maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
> > maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
> > the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
> > carriers.
> >
> > More and more of the individuals who were part of the target market for
> > Nextel began to have personal wireless needs... So the popularity of
> > these products began gain momentum. Main steam consumers started to look
> > at Nextel. These customers have be qualified properly by the
> > representative they are dealing with. I have found the Internet and
> > telesales do not properly qualify Nextel customers from the perspective
> > of whether or not a prospect is a current wireless user... to better
> > understand the customer's expectation of the network. The general
> > consumer and wireless handset users have pre-conceived notions of
> > wireless services... either from their personal experience or purported
> > by well polished advertising.
> >
> > Because Nextel is an all digital network and does not have an analog
> > backbone... because Nextel will concentrate sites in a given area to
> > provide true reliability in that area... because Nextel handsets are
> > built better... because this was a two-way trunked radio technology that
> > coupled cellular functionality (not a phone with a two-way radio built
> > in)... there need to be a certain understanding on the part of new
> > subscribers. It is the job of the vendor or representative to qualify
> > you. If you enter into a wireless service thinking that there is parity
> > between all of the players, shame on you. Nextel is THE MOST RELIABLE
> > NETWORK where they have deployed the network.
> >
> > Is it the "clearest" digital technology?... I don't think most customers
> > are digital officianatos and digital quality is not that critical...
> > Inflection is carried effectively on the Nextel network and thats what
> > counts. As far as 3G goes my Nextel handsets accesses and navigates the
> > web quicker than any other web enabled handset I have played with... The
> > applications play perfectly with the network, hardware, and software.
> > FUNCTION, This is the focus of this carrier. Business tools, That is
> > what they install into their network and handsets. Durability, That
> > which is necessary to support the field use of mobile phones.
> >
> > Yeah I am a Nextel fan... they are the only carrier that I can sustain a
> > call from east to west on the Route 4 corridor of my home state,
> > Vermont. NO other carrier can claim that. They still build a 3 watt
> > product for customers with more demanding needs. This is a company whose
> > customer service issues "transaction numbers" to callers so that they
> > may track customer service issues. I could go on... but I realize I have
> > gone on long enough.
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
- 08-02-2003, 05:35 AM #6OCK913Guest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
I don't have any sources to confirm or deny what you have said therefore I
will not try to debate it with you. I choose Nextel for the direct connect.
Can Verizon do that? NO!! When Verizon can, and with the same quality,
without undue delay............. then I may succumb.
"P Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would like to refute the statement that Nextel is the most reliable
> carrier in the areas that they provide network coverage.
>
> In the Baltimore/Washington DC area, Verizon Wireless has far superior
> call connection and call retention averages... far less dropped calls
> and ineffective call attempts. I know this from personal experience as
> well as third party articles in:
> The Washington Post
> Consumer Reports
> JD Powers and Associates
> The Baltimore Sun
> The Carroll County Gazette
> just to name a few.
>
> What is ironic is that Washington DC is the backyard of Nextel... their
> HQ is in Reston VA, only 10 minutes away. Last I checked, around 495,
> the capital beltway which is travelled by millions each day, the average
> Nextel phone experiences 4 areas of weak signal that drop any phone call
> in progress. VZW has zero weak spots around the Capital Beltway. If I
> remember correctly, in the CR and JD Power studies, Nextel wasn't even
> in the top 3 for network quality.
>
> Just my 2c...
>
> --
> Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
>
>
> [email protected] (Matthew E.W. Maniaci) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > To best qualify any one customer as a Nextel subscriber you need to look
> > at this carrier from the standpoint of its products, services, and
> > network integrity.
> >
> > This is a company that may never cover the pucker brush in certain rural
> > areas... instead of a few island sites in a rural area the company seems
> > to take those sites and overlay them in a populated areas providing for
> > greater redundancy.
> >
> > This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
> > technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
> > services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
> > place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
> > enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
> > maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
> > maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
> > the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
> > carriers.
> >
> > More and more of the individuals who were part of the target market for
> > Nextel began to have personal wireless needs... So the popularity of
> > these products began gain momentum. Main steam consumers started to look
> > at Nextel. These customers have be qualified properly by the
> > representative they are dealing with. I have found the Internet and
> > telesales do not properly qualify Nextel customers from the perspective
> > of whether or not a prospect is a current wireless user... to better
> > understand the customer's expectation of the network. The general
> > consumer and wireless handset users have pre-conceived notions of
> > wireless services... either from their personal experience or purported
> > by well polished advertising.
> >
> > Because Nextel is an all digital network and does not have an analog
> > backbone... because Nextel will concentrate sites in a given area to
> > provide true reliability in that area... because Nextel handsets are
> > built better... because this was a two-way trunked radio technology that
> > coupled cellular functionality (not a phone with a two-way radio built
> > in)... there need to be a certain understanding on the part of new
> > subscribers. It is the job of the vendor or representative to qualify
> > you. If you enter into a wireless service thinking that there is parity
> > between all of the players, shame on you. Nextel is THE MOST RELIABLE
> > NETWORK where they have deployed the network.
> >
> > Is it the "clearest" digital technology?... I don't think most customers
> > are digital officianatos and digital quality is not that critical...
> > Inflection is carried effectively on the Nextel network and thats what
> > counts. As far as 3G goes my Nextel handsets accesses and navigates the
> > web quicker than any other web enabled handset I have played with... The
> > applications play perfectly with the network, hardware, and software.
> > FUNCTION, This is the focus of this carrier. Business tools, That is
> > what they install into their network and handsets. Durability, That
> > which is necessary to support the field use of mobile phones.
> >
> > Yeah I am a Nextel fan... they are the only carrier that I can sustain a
> > call from east to west on the Route 4 corridor of my home state,
> > Vermont. NO other carrier can claim that. They still build a 3 watt
> > product for customers with more demanding needs. This is a company whose
> > customer service issues "transaction numbers" to callers so that they
> > may track customer service issues. I could go on... but I realize I have
> > gone on long enough.
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
- 08-02-2003, 01:55 PM #7Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Jason Lowe <[email protected]> said to him:
> I find it funny that you only talk about the phones and not the service!
> We all know the service is terrible!!!
Well, quite apart from your top posting, which I haven't got the
energy to fix -- quit that, willya? -- I was talking about the phones
because *we were talking about the phones*.
In the Tampa/St Pete Metro area, there currently isn't *anywhere* I
know of -- certainly not anywhere I've been this year -- where I
can't get a signal.
Sometimes the signal is a little dingy, and they have holes to fill,
yes, but they filled the one near my house, so I'm happy. ;-)
DC breaks up a bit now and then, and *that* probably *is*
oversubscription; I'm about to start riding them about that again.
Phone calls are almost always perfect, and the audio quality of the
i1000+ handset is easily the best I've ever heard -- better than most
landline phones I talk on these days.
I have Basic Wireless Web with AOL, and it's quite handy for the
price.
About the only thing that irks me is the continued inability to get
realtime info on minute usage during the month.
So, yeah, it's worth the money -- at least here -- and bugger off.
Ok?
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 08-02-2003, 07:43 PM #8CCCC1 1CCCCGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Dude dont do it... as a recovering vzn user I can tell you first hand
I'd stay with Nextel. Unless you want all the baggage that comes with
vzn. With Nextel we have a company that works for its customers, the
same cannot be said over vzn where since the BAM takeover the word
service has been non-existant. The fat cats running the company could
care less about it's customers and what we want. Vealots please note I
said WE I am still a current vzn customer so I am talking first
person..... THE TRUTH
"OCK913" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> I don't have any sources to confirm or deny what you have said therefore I
> will not try to debate it with you. I choose Nextel for the direct connect.
> Can Verizon do that? NO!! When Verizon can, and with the same quality,
> without undue delay............. then I may succumb.
>
> "P Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I would like to refute the statement that Nextel is the most reliable
> > carrier in the areas that they provide network coverage.
> >
> > In the Baltimore/Washington DC area, Verizon Wireless has far superior
> > call connection and call retention averages... far less dropped calls
> > and ineffective call attempts. I know this from personal experience as
> > well as third party articles in:
> > The Washington Post
> > Consumer Reports
> > JD Powers and Associates
> > The Baltimore Sun
> > The Carroll County Gazette
> > just to name a few.
> >
> > What is ironic is that Washington DC is the backyard of Nextel... their
> > HQ is in Reston VA, only 10 minutes away. Last I checked, around 495,
> > the capital beltway which is travelled by millions each day, the average
> > Nextel phone experiences 4 areas of weak signal that drop any phone call
> > in progress. VZW has zero weak spots around the Capital Beltway. If I
> > remember correctly, in the CR and JD Power studies, Nextel wasn't even
> > in the top 3 for network quality.
> >
> > Just my 2c...
> >
> > --
> > Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Matthew E.W. Maniaci) wrote in article
> > <[email protected]>:
> > > To best qualify any one customer as a Nextel subscriber you need to look
> > > at this carrier from the standpoint of its products, services, and
> > > network integrity.
> > >
> > > This is a company that may never cover the pucker brush in certain rural
> > > areas... instead of a few island sites in a rural area the company seems
> > > to take those sites and overlay them in a populated areas providing for
> > > greater redundancy.
> > >
> > > This company partnered with Motorola to develop a proprietary digital
> > > technology for trunked digital two-way radio that coupled cellular phone
> > > services as well. These were HEAVY DUTY handsets designed to take the
> > > place of two devices on the duty belts of first response, law
> > > enforcement, fire and rescue workers, as well as the construction and
> > > maintenance trades. The company warranties these phones so long as you
> > > maintain an active service... they are built to a tougher standard than
> > > the "gameboys with phone functionality" that are produced for "other"
> > > carriers.
> > >
> > > More and more of the individuals who were part of the target market for
> > > Nextel began to have personal wireless needs... So the popularity of
> > > these products began gain momentum. Main steam consumers started to look
> > > at Nextel. These customers have be qualified properly by the
> > > representative they are dealing with. I have found the Internet and
> > > telesales do not properly qualify Nextel customers from the perspective
> > > of whether or not a prospect is a current wireless user... to better
> > > understand the customer's expectation of the network. The general
> > > consumer and wireless handset users have pre-conceived notions of
> > > wireless services... either from their personal experience or purported
> > > by well polished advertising.
> > >
> > > Because Nextel is an all digital network and does not have an analog
> > > backbone... because Nextel will concentrate sites in a given area to
> > > provide true reliability in that area... because Nextel handsets are
> > > built better... because this was a two-way trunked radio technology that
> > > coupled cellular functionality (not a phone with a two-way radio built
> > > in)... there need to be a certain understanding on the part of new
> > > subscribers. It is the job of the vendor or representative to qualify
> > > you. If you enter into a wireless service thinking that there is parity
> > > between all of the players, shame on you. Nextel is THE MOST RELIABLE
> > > NETWORK where they have deployed the network.
> > >
> > > Is it the "clearest" digital technology?... I don't think most customers
> > > are digital officianatos and digital quality is not that critical...
> > > Inflection is carried effectively on the Nextel network and thats what
> > > counts. As far as 3G goes my Nextel handsets accesses and navigates the
> > > web quicker than any other web enabled handset I have played with... The
> > > applications play perfectly with the network, hardware, and software.
> > > FUNCTION, This is the focus of this carrier. Business tools, That is
> > > what they install into their network and handsets. Durability, That
> > > which is necessary to support the field use of mobile phones.
> > >
> > > Yeah I am a Nextel fan... they are the only carrier that I can sustain a
> > > call from east to west on the Route 4 corridor of my home state,
> > > Vermont. NO other carrier can claim that. They still build a 3 watt
> > > product for customers with more demanding needs. This is a company whose
> > > customer service issues "transaction numbers" to callers so that they
> > > may track customer service issues. I could go on... but I realize I have
> > > gone on long enough.
> > >
> > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
> >
>
>
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- 08-02-2003, 10:27 PM #9Stanley ClineGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:55:35 GMT, "Jay R. Ashworth"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>About the only thing that irks me is the continued inability to get
>realtime info on minute usage during the month.
Rumour from other sources says you'll have that (via MyNextel online)
next week
-SC
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....
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- 08-03-2003, 02:22 PM #10Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Stanley Cline <[email protected]> said to him:
> On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:55:35 GMT, "Jay R. Ashworth"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >About the only thing that irks me is the continued inability to get
> >realtime info on minute usage during the month.
>
> Rumour from other sources says you'll have that (via MyNextel online)
> next week
That's what they told me 6 months ago.
Cheers,-
- jra
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- 08-07-2003, 05:47 PM #11Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Jay <[email protected]> said to him:
> Who have you been talking to???
Many people, and I didn't say anything to any of them about power
ouput on Nextel towers.
Please be more careful with your quoting and attributions, particular
if you're going to rant, won't you? And ixnay on the top-posting
there, too, guy.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 08-08-2003, 09:53 AM #12Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
MArk Filla <[email protected]> said to him:
> I was just bringing up points on what I know about the NEXTEL
> infrastructure by a former NEXTEL employee who now works with me as we
> both are wireless engineers.
Fine.
But you posted it as a rebuttal to *me*, rebutting things I did not
say.
> My biggest point is that NEXTEL has poor site design by lack of back-up
> power and HVAC capacity to consider themselves a real public safety
> solution as I designed and now manage a "real" public safety radio
> system (with 10 sites, 283 transmitters, and 3 loops of 6 GHz microwave
> ) that covers inside medium and high density buildings (that NEXTEL
> only wishes it could cover in the County) with almost 98% reliability.
> That is what I use as a comparison.
And you missed the part where I said that not only does nextel not
position themselves as Public Safety, their service agreement has
terms whereby you specifically guarantee them that you *won't* use it
that way -- or at least, the one *we* signed did.
> The site ERP topic only came up because of the proven interference that
> they are causing to Public Safety because of the front end overloading
> to the public safety radios that share the 800 MHz. band. If I want to
> bring up additional details or topics I believe that I am in my right to
> do that.
You can do whatever you want.
Just learn how to fly your newsreader, dude.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 08-08-2003, 01:24 PM #13MArk FillaGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Sorry Jay,
My apologies. I was just trying to follow the flow of the posts. Bad
habit from the Yahoo Groups that I usually post in.
I'll be more attentive next time.
--
Mark KS4VT
"Jay R. Ashworth" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Stanley settled back into the couch, and
> MArk Filla <[email protected]> said to him:
> > I was just bringing up points on what I know about the NEXTEL
> > infrastructure by a former NEXTEL employee who now works with me as we
> > both are wireless engineers.
>
> Fine.
>
> But you posted it as a rebuttal to *me*, rebutting things I did not
> say.
>
> > My biggest point is that NEXTEL has poor site design by lack of back-up
> > power and HVAC capacity to consider themselves a real public safety
> > solution as I designed and now manage a "real" public safety radio
> > system (with 10 sites, 283 transmitters, and 3 loops of 6 GHz microwave
> > ) that covers inside medium and high density buildings (that NEXTEL
> > only wishes it could cover in the County) with almost 98% reliability.
> > That is what I use as a comparison.
>
> And you missed the part where I said that not only does nextel not
> position themselves as Public Safety, their service agreement has
> terms whereby you specifically guarantee them that you *won't* use it
> that way -- or at least, the one *we* signed did.
>
> > The site ERP topic only came up because of the proven interference that
> > they are causing to Public Safety because of the front end overloading
> > to the public safety radios that share the 800 MHz. band. If I want to
> > bring up additional details or topics I believe that I am in my right to
> > do that.
>
> You can do whatever you want.
>
> Just learn how to fly your newsreader, dude.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
>
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
> Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
> The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
> Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
>
> God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
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- 08-09-2003, 08:05 PM #14BigFatWaddGuest
Re: Nextel's Strengths
Only stregnth they have is when I plow them up the azz!
HAHAHHAHAH
"Jay R. Ashworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Stanley settled back into the couch, and
> Jay <[email protected]> said to him:
> > Who have you been talking to???
>
> Many people, and I didn't say anything to any of them about power
> ouput on Nextel towers.
>
> Please be more careful with your quoting and attributions, particular
> if you're going to rant, won't you? And ixnay on the top-posting
> there, too, guy.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth
[email protected]
> Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
> The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
> Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647
1274
>
> God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
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