Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in message
news:8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com...
> Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
> that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service
make
> false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
> have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
> advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
> between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have
been
> taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
> greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
> fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
> market.
>
> For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
> - see this blurb from Reuters
>
>

Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.

"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in message
news:8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com...
> Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
> that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service
make
> false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
> have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
> advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
> between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have
been
> taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
> greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
> fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
> market.
>
> For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
> - see this blurb from Reuters
>
>

Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.

I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section

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be completely accurate.


"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102nospam@Hotmail.com> wrote in article
<bksjo6$56k2v$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de>:
>
> "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in message
> news:8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com...
> > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
> > that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service
> make
> > false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
> > have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
> > advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
> > between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have
> been
> > taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
> > greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
> > fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
> > market.
> >
> > For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
> > - see this blurb from Reuters
> >
> >
>
> Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
> it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section

--
Statements made by me are of my opinion and knowledge, and do not
express those by Verizon Wireless(R).
Any information I give is subject to change without notice, and may not
be completely accurate.


"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102nospam@Hotmail.com> wrote in article
<bksjo6$56k2v$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de>:
>
> "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in message
> news:8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com...
> > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
> > that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service
> make
> > false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
> > have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
> > advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
> > between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have
> been
> > taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
> > greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
> > fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
> > market.
> >
> > For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
> > - see this blurb from Reuters
> >
> >
>
> Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
> it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
<8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com>:
> Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
> Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
> advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
> false claims about Nextel's network.

Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
times.

Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
ads never said that.

Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing. Implicature is
used all the time in advertising. Nextel is very foolish
to give all this free advertising to Verizon, rather than
countering with ads that show how much better Nextel's
PTT is than Verizon's. Nextel can legitmately claim to
have the best PTT network, they are under no obligation
to talk about the coverage issue.

Verizon customers that expect Nextel-like PTT quality will
be disappointed.

Nextel customers that expect Verizon-like coverage will be
disappointed.

"Best" is such a vague term. It's like all the car dealers
that claim to be "#1" or "largest."


[posted via phonescoop.com]

"PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
<8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com>:
> Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
> Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
> advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
> false claims about Nextel's network.

Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
times.

Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
ads never said that.

Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing. Implicature is
used all the time in advertising. Nextel is very foolish
to give all this free advertising to Verizon, rather than
countering with ads that show how much better Nextel's
PTT is than Verizon's. Nextel can legitmately claim to
have the best PTT network, they are under no obligation
to talk about the coverage issue.

Verizon customers that expect Nextel-like PTT quality will
be disappointed.

Nextel customers that expect Verizon-like coverage will be
disappointed.

"Best" is such a vague term. It's like all the car dealers
that claim to be "#1" or "largest."


[posted via phonescoop.com]

No Article matches for "nextel suing verizon" on CNN.com
No Article matches for "nextel sues verizon" on CNN.com

I guess CNN.com must think it is "somewhere" in the Technology section,
too.

For your own results, visit CNN.com and search for the article.

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VZW Guy wrote:
> I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
>

No Article matches for "nextel suing verizon" on CNN.com
No Article matches for "nextel sues verizon" on CNN.com

I guess CNN.com must think it is "somewhere" in the Technology section,
too.

For your own results, visit CNN.com and search for the article.

AD

VZW Guy wrote:
> I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
>

I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
a nonexpiring link.

AD

VZW Guy wrote:
> I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
>

I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
a nonexpiring link.

AD

VZW Guy wrote:
> I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
>

Why don't you try searching this newsgroup
"About Dakota" <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F71DD38.2020507@REMOVEMEhotmail.com...
> I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
> and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
> a nonexpiring link.
>
> AD
>
> VZW Guy wrote:
> > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
> >
>

Why don't you try searching this newsgroup
"About Dakota" <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F71DD38.2020507@REMOVEMEhotmail.com...
> I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
> and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
> a nonexpiring link.
>
> AD
>
> VZW Guy wrote:
> > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
> >
>

In article <vn3m842rgtcv8f@corp.supernews.com>,
CellAcademician@NOXXhotmailXXNO.com (Cell Academician) wrote:

> "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
> <8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com>:
> > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
> > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
> > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
> > false claims about Nextel's network.
>
> Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
> coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
> times.
>
> Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
> to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
> best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
> If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
> terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
> have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
> ads never said that.
>
> Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing.


They are showing two things that flat doon't happen. It is totally
misleading and therefore illegal.

1. They incorrectly show a presumed Nextel user not be able to do Walkie
Talkie. It would never happen that way. On a Nextel if you push to
talk, and you get the TONE, your party is there. The TONE would not tone
if your party was not available.

2. They show the Verizon man pushing to talk and getting a signal
instantly. IT NEVER HAPPENS THAT FAST on a Verizon. Twelve seconds is
more like it.

In article <vn3m842rgtcv8f@corp.supernews.com>,
CellAcademician@NOXXhotmailXXNO.com (Cell Academician) wrote:

> "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
> <8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com>:
> > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
> > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
> > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
> > false claims about Nextel's network.
>
> Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
> coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
> times.
>
> Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
> to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
> best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
> If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
> terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
> have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
> ads never said that.
>
> Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing.


They are showing two things that flat doon't happen. It is totally
misleading and therefore illegal.

1. They incorrectly show a presumed Nextel user not be able to do Walkie
Talkie. It would never happen that way. On a Nextel if you push to
talk, and you get the TONE, your party is there. The TONE would not tone
if your party was not available.

2. They show the Verizon man pushing to talk and getting a signal
instantly. IT NEVER HAPPENS THAT FAST on a Verizon. Twelve seconds is
more like it.

"Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in message
news:Pearl-CF156A.13295124092003@news05.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <vn3m842rgtcv8f@corp.supernews.com>,
> CellAcademician@NOXXhotmailXXNO.com (Cell Academician) wrote:
>
> > "PDA Man" <pda@theman.com> wrote in article
> > <8yidnY4x9aFlGuyiU-KYvA@comcast.com>:
> > > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
> > > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
> > > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
> > > false claims about Nextel's network.
> >
> > Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
> > coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
> > times.
> >
> > Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
> > to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
> > best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
> > If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
> > terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
> > have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
> > ads never said that.
> >
> > Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing.
>
>
> They are showing two things that flat doon't happen. It is totally
> misleading and therefore illegal.
>
> 1. They incorrectly show a presumed Nextel user not be able to do Walkie
> Talkie. It would never happen that way. On a Nextel if you push to
> talk, and you get the TONE, your party is there. The TONE would not tone
> if your party was not available.
>
> 2. They show the Verizon man pushing to talk and getting a signal
> instantly. IT NEVER HAPPENS THAT FAST on a Verizon. Twelve seconds is
> more like it.

Which begs the question, if it takes 12 seconds for the initial connection
on the Verizon PTT, why not just call the person? Then you don't sound like
a damned dump truck backing up.