NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!

PDA Man wrote:
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this.
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start.
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 — A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE <http://palmplace.blogspot.com>


Listening to PBS in the car a while ago, they said Congress could
grant the authority to the FCC to invoke a national DNC list in short
order. I imagine if any politician wants a snow ball's chance in hell
of being re-electable, the FCC will get their wish, and the
telemarketers will just have to find something else to whine about -
as if anybody really cares.

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what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

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PDA Man wrote:
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this.
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start.
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 — A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE <http://palmplace.blogspot.com>


Listening to PBS in the car a while ago, they said Congress could
grant the authority to the FCC to invoke a national DNC list in short
order. I imagine if any politician wants a snow ball's chance in hell
of being re-electable, the FCC will get their wish, and the
telemarketers will just have to find something else to whine about -
as if anybody really cares.

--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

Doesn't matter to me...I usually keep my phone off the hook and when I do answer it soon as I hear the idiot trying to sell me something, I hang up. They do call on weekends, during the most times when people are home....soon I'll just disconnect all together and just use my cell phone.

"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.

Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.

For the rest of the story CLICK HERE

Doesn't matter to me...I usually keep my phone off the hook and when I do answer it soon as I hear the idiot trying to sell me something, I hang up. They do call on weekends, during the most times when people are home....soon I'll just disconnect all together and just use my cell phone.

"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.

Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.

For the rest of the story CLICK HERE

Hahahaha, so now that list of phone numbers that the FTC has will be sold to the telemarketers!
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.

Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.

For the rest of the story CLICK HERE

Hahahaha, so now that list of phone numbers that the FTC has will be sold to the telemarketers!
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.

Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.

For the rest of the story CLICK HERE

[email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
stop is short lived.
>
> All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> rid of solicitation calls on them.
>
> Geoff.
>
This has been discussed many times.
1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.

Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.


...mike

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[email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
stop is short lived.
>
> All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> rid of solicitation calls on them.
>
> Geoff.
>
This has been discussed many times.
1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.

Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.


...mike

[posted via phonescoop.com]

There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.

[email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
>
> [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> stop is short lived.
> >
> > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> This has been discussed many times.
> 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
>
> Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
>
>
> ...mike
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.

[email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
>
> [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> stop is short lived.
> >
> > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> This has been discussed many times.
> 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
>
> Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
>
>
> ...mike
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

Just full of saturated info

[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

Just full of saturated info

[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

wow I should post my responses on every link too, ..........there just
saturated with info great work William!

[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

wow I should post my responses on every link too, ..........there just
saturated with info great work William!

[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

Oh my Gosh, thats three outstanding!

[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

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