PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

No awkward ending to converstations. Just stop pushing the PTT button and
its over.


"Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
>
> I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
> PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
from
> calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
> half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
> to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
> advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
> wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
>
> - Drek

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"David Little" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I may not be entirely accurate in this portrayal, but the Verizon (and
soon
> others) version of PTT uses an "unconnected packet" approach; in which it
> negotiates a path and connection for each transmission. The connection is
> dropped as soon as the PTT button is released and the packet clears the
last
> tower into the receiver's area. This is the cause for the delay in
connect
> times. I believe this will be the way that the other carriers will try to
> cash in on the success that Nextel has created with their trunked network.
>
> OTOH, Nextel is a connected system, in which the connection; once
> negotiated, is maintained until the conversation is finished and one of
the
> participants closes the connection. This is a view from a Direct Connect
> perspective. Another good thing for consideration is the depth of
> commitment that Nextel has created by making their service available to
> public service, law enforcement, government, etc. users.
>
> In the old days, the cellular carriers all had the equivalent of an
"Access
> Overload Class" which would stratify the users into levels of importance
in
> times of disaster or service overload. Usually, the garden variety
citizen
> would have a number around 15 on the list. That way, lower numbers in
this
> field would give higher priority access to the cellsite in times where the
> service reached overload capacity.
>
> With the amount of "professional" customers that Nextel has in service,
> their system may fare better in an overload situation. I would venture a
> guess that the cellsites that have a large government or enforcement user
> base would be given a lot of support to keep them on the air in times of
> disaster.
>
> I have no concrete evidence to back this guess, but I feel it has some
> merit.
>
> This isn't so much an indication of 2-way over cellular, but possible
> insight into the difference in the carriers and how their systems may hold
> up at "crunch time".
>
Nextel makes a unit for public safety that has this feature. I addition to
being ruggidized, it has a red button on top, then when pressed, gives the
unit priority over all other traffic on the network. A must in times of
emergency when the network is clogged with usage.





>
>
> "Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
> > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
> from
> > calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
> > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one
was
> > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would
the
> > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
> > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
> >
> > - Drek
>
>

"David Little" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I may not be entirely accurate in this portrayal, but the Verizon (and
soon
> others) version of PTT uses an "unconnected packet" approach; in which it
> negotiates a path and connection for each transmission. The connection is
> dropped as soon as the PTT button is released and the packet clears the
last
> tower into the receiver's area. This is the cause for the delay in
connect
> times. I believe this will be the way that the other carriers will try to
> cash in on the success that Nextel has created with their trunked network.
>
> OTOH, Nextel is a connected system, in which the connection; once
> negotiated, is maintained until the conversation is finished and one of
the
> participants closes the connection. This is a view from a Direct Connect
> perspective. Another good thing for consideration is the depth of
> commitment that Nextel has created by making their service available to
> public service, law enforcement, government, etc. users.
>
> In the old days, the cellular carriers all had the equivalent of an
"Access
> Overload Class" which would stratify the users into levels of importance
in
> times of disaster or service overload. Usually, the garden variety
citizen
> would have a number around 15 on the list. That way, lower numbers in
this
> field would give higher priority access to the cellsite in times where the
> service reached overload capacity.
>
> With the amount of "professional" customers that Nextel has in service,
> their system may fare better in an overload situation. I would venture a
> guess that the cellsites that have a large government or enforcement user
> base would be given a lot of support to keep them on the air in times of
> disaster.
>
> I have no concrete evidence to back this guess, but I feel it has some
> merit.
>
> This isn't so much an indication of 2-way over cellular, but possible
> insight into the difference in the carriers and how their systems may hold
> up at "crunch time".
>
Nextel makes a unit for public safety that has this feature. I addition to
being ruggidized, it has a red button on top, then when pressed, gives the
unit priority over all other traffic on the network. A must in times of
emergency when the network is clogged with usage.





>
>
> "Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
> > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
> from
> > calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
> > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one
was
> > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would
the
> > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
> > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
> >
> > - Drek
>
>

In my view, the big deal with PTT is that you can get unlimited connect at
one flat rate (With some plans)

I have used Nextel for about 3 years now and have friends with Nextel - when
we call each other it is direct connect...

I would rather have a plan with unlimited mobile to mobile calling (Like the
non PTT carriers have) - having a regular phone conversation is much less
cumbersome than pushing that damn button every time.




> No awkward ending to converstations. Just stop pushing the PTT button and
> its over.
>
>
> "Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
>> PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
> from
>> calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
>> half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
>> to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
>> advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
>> wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
>>
>> - Drek
>
>

In my view, the big deal with PTT is that you can get unlimited connect at
one flat rate (With some plans)

I have used Nextel for about 3 years now and have friends with Nextel - when
we call each other it is direct connect...

I would rather have a plan with unlimited mobile to mobile calling (Like the
non PTT carriers have) - having a regular phone conversation is much less
cumbersome than pushing that damn button every time.




> No awkward ending to converstations. Just stop pushing the PTT button and
> its over.
>
>
> "Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
>> PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
> from
>> calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
>> half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
>> to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
>> advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
>> wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
>>
>> - Drek
>
>

You can also just turn the volume down really low.

"Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Who says you have to broadcast a DC conversation. Just turn the =
speaker off.
>=20
>=20
> "penael " <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Thanks for your posting. I've never been a fan of seeming-rude =
people
> > broadcasting their conversation in the open air, but I DO get what =
you
> > are trying to say. Now PTT makes at least a little sense to me.
> >
> >
> > > ABOUT DC:
> > > For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use =
to
> > > but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units =
much
> > > more than you will call them.
> > >
> > > First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
> > > seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. =
On
> > > a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion =
of
> > > others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while =
on
> > > your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
> > > message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
> > > between other interactions.
> > >
> > > There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
> > > call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife =
and I
> > > both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
> > > driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we =
would
> > > feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we =
can
> > > just DC each other when we have something to say without the
> > > expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. =
It
> > > has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.
> > >
> > > Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue =
to
> > > answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be =
on
> > > the phone with them for hours.
> > >
> > > And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
> > > Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.
> >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>=20
>

You can also just turn the volume down really low.

"Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Who says you have to broadcast a DC conversation. Just turn the =
speaker off.
>=20
>=20
> "penael " <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Thanks for your posting. I've never been a fan of seeming-rude =
people
> > broadcasting their conversation in the open air, but I DO get what =
you
> > are trying to say. Now PTT makes at least a little sense to me.
> >
> >
> > > ABOUT DC:
> > > For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use =
to
> > > but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units =
much
> > > more than you will call them.
> > >
> > > First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
> > > seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. =
On
> > > a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion =
of
> > > others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while =
on
> > > your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
> > > message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
> > > between other interactions.
> > >
> > > There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
> > > call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife =
and I
> > > both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
> > > driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we =
would
> > > feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we =
can
> > > just DC each other when we have something to say without the
> > > expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. =
It
> > > has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.
> > >
> > > Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue =
to
> > > answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be =
on
> > > the phone with them for hours.
> > >
> > > And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
> > > Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.
> >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>=20
>