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12-02-2003, 10:06 AM
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#16 | | Guest |
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:17:34 GMT, "brian" <prophetxx@avenew.com> wrote:
>Cell phones do not go on your credit rept. good or bad...
>
>thank god, otherwise half america would have ****ty credit...why do you
>think you pay so much for service? because you're helping pay for the phones
>of the millions that get contracts, and then drop em..
Where did you get this info that cells don't go on credit report? If you have
a link to this info, that would be appreciated.....
>
>Brian
>
>"Tom" <TomD@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c76asvc4o86qj5tlcpf3op2nnii58h46et@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:23:15 -0800, Evan Platt
>> <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:53:10 -0500, Mark <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have 5 phones on my business account and I am closing up shop soon. I
>still
>> >>have 6 months or so left since my last changes, so I'm sure they'll hit
>me
>> >>with a penalty fee.
>> >>
>> >>Do you know if it's per phone or account?
>> >
>> >Per phone.
>> >
>> >>Also, I assume there is some flexibility or negotiating that can be done
>since the end result is I either
>> >>pay a fee that is "acceptable", or I walk away and pay them nothing and
>they
>> >>lose.
>> >
>> >Nope. You signed a contract stating you'd pay $x per phone.
>> >
>> >They wouldn't loose - they'd probably take you to court. 5 phones,
>> >$200 each - $1,000. That's a LOT of money.
>> >
>> >Evan
>> >To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.
>>
>>
>> You're so damn goofy. Take someone to court for $1,000? You've
>> obviously not been to court recently nor needed the services of an
>> attorney. Not even remotely worth that amount to collect through a
>> court and attorney.The only thing Nextel will do is send lots of
>> letters and send the amount to a collection dept. The will hound you
>> and harrass you as best they can. It'll probably go on your credit
>> record but thats about it. If you can live with that, then deal with
>> it. Otherwise, "pony up".
>> Tom
>>
>
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12-02-2003, 10:06 AM
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#17 | | Guest |
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:17:34 GMT, "brian" <prophetxx@avenew.com> wrote:
>Cell phones do not go on your credit rept. good or bad...
>
>thank god, otherwise half america would have ****ty credit...why do you
>think you pay so much for service? because you're helping pay for the phones
>of the millions that get contracts, and then drop em..
Where did you get this info that cells don't go on credit report? If you have
a link to this info, that would be appreciated.....
>
>Brian
>
>"Tom" <TomD@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c76asvc4o86qj5tlcpf3op2nnii58h46et@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:23:15 -0800, Evan Platt
>> <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:53:10 -0500, Mark <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have 5 phones on my business account and I am closing up shop soon. I
>still
>> >>have 6 months or so left since my last changes, so I'm sure they'll hit
>me
>> >>with a penalty fee.
>> >>
>> >>Do you know if it's per phone or account?
>> >
>> >Per phone.
>> >
>> >>Also, I assume there is some flexibility or negotiating that can be done
>since the end result is I either
>> >>pay a fee that is "acceptable", or I walk away and pay them nothing and
>they
>> >>lose.
>> >
>> >Nope. You signed a contract stating you'd pay $x per phone.
>> >
>> >They wouldn't loose - they'd probably take you to court. 5 phones,
>> >$200 each - $1,000. That's a LOT of money.
>> >
>> >Evan
>> >To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.
>>
>>
>> You're so damn goofy. Take someone to court for $1,000? You've
>> obviously not been to court recently nor needed the services of an
>> attorney. Not even remotely worth that amount to collect through a
>> court and attorney.The only thing Nextel will do is send lots of
>> letters and send the amount to a collection dept. The will hound you
>> and harrass you as best they can. It'll probably go on your credit
>> record but thats about it. If you can live with that, then deal with
>> it. Otherwise, "pony up".
>> Tom
>>
>
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12-02-2003, 10:28 AM
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#18 | | Guest |
>>Nope. You signed a contract stating you'd pay $x per phone.
>>
>>They wouldn't loose - they'd probably take you to court. 5 phones,
>>$200 each - $1,000. That's a LOT of money.
>
>Much less than legal fees for them. I'm a gambling man.
If you are shutting down a business (that was not in your name) and the phones
are part of that business then you might have a case that if they do not
negotiate then they get nothing.
If the business is in your name then your credit *might* be going down the tubes
anyway so it might not matter.
You probably can't take them to court as you most likely have to go through
arbitration. I don't think they would take you to court, they'd just harass
you and ding your credit rating (as others have said). That would be enough to
stop most people I know from trying to walk away from the contract.
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12-02-2003, 10:28 AM
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#19 | | Guest |
>>Nope. You signed a contract stating you'd pay $x per phone.
>>
>>They wouldn't loose - they'd probably take you to court. 5 phones,
>>$200 each - $1,000. That's a LOT of money.
>
>Much less than legal fees for them. I'm a gambling man.
If you are shutting down a business (that was not in your name) and the phones
are part of that business then you might have a case that if they do not
negotiate then they get nothing.
If the business is in your name then your credit *might* be going down the tubes
anyway so it might not matter.
You probably can't take them to court as you most likely have to go through
arbitration. I don't think they would take you to court, they'd just harass
you and ding your credit rating (as others have said). That would be enough to
stop most people I know from trying to walk away from the contract.
--
Dave
Visit my New England Cell Phone Page at http://markson.net/cell_phones.htm
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12-02-2003, 11:32 AM
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#20 | | Guest |
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:28:38 GMT, Dave Markson <dave@markson.remove.net>
wrote:
>>>Nope. You signed a contract stating you'd pay $x per phone.
>>>
>>>They wouldn't loose - they'd probably take you to court. 5 phones,
>>>$200 each - $1,000. That's a LOT of money.
>>
>>Much less than legal fees for them. I'm a gambling man.
>
>If you are shutting down a business (that was not in your name) and the phones
>are part of that business then you might have a case that if they do not
>negotiate then they get nothing.
>
>If the business is in your name then your credit *might* be going down the tubes
>anyway so it might not matter.
>
>You probably can't take them to court as you most likely have to go through
>arbitration. I don't think they would take you to court, they'd just harass
>you and ding your credit rating (as others have said). That would be enough to
>stop most people I know from trying to walk away from the contract.
Since the phones are under my FID# - which will be defunct before long, I
don't really care what they put on that credit report.
As originally stated, I am willing to talk with them and give them *some*
money, but I'm also not going to allow them to get greedy.
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12-02-2003, 11:32 AM
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#21 | | Guest |
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:28:38 GMT, Dave Markson <dave@markson.remove.net>
wrote:
>>>Nope. You signed a contract stating you'd pay $x per phone.
>>>
>>>They wouldn't loose - they'd probably take you to court. 5 phones,
>>>$200 each - $1,000. That's a LOT of money.
>>
>>Much less than legal fees for them. I'm a gambling man.
>
>If you are shutting down a business (that was not in your name) and the phones
>are part of that business then you might have a case that if they do not
>negotiate then they get nothing.
>
>If the business is in your name then your credit *might* be going down the tubes
>anyway so it might not matter.
>
>You probably can't take them to court as you most likely have to go through
>arbitration. I don't think they would take you to court, they'd just harass
>you and ding your credit rating (as others have said). That would be enough to
>stop most people I know from trying to walk away from the contract.
Since the phones are under my FID# - which will be defunct before long, I
don't really care what they put on that credit report.
As originally stated, I am willing to talk with them and give them *some*
money, but I'm also not going to allow them to get greedy.
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12-02-2003, 05:19 PM
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#22 | | Guest |
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
Good
> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>
> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course, that's
after you have to deal with third party collections.
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12-02-2003, 05:19 PM
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#23 | | Guest |
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
Good
> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>
> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course, that's
after you have to deal with third party collections.
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12-02-2003, 05:51 PM
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#24 | | Guest |
"brian" <prophetxx@avenew.com> wrote in message
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> Cell phones do not go on your credit rept. good or bad...
>
Don't know who you've been doing business with, but an uncollected balance
more than 160 days old will almost always show up (through a third party
collection agancy) on your credit report. | | | | |
12-02-2003, 05:51 PM
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#25 | | Guest |
"brian" <prophetxx@avenew.com> wrote in message
news:yUXyb.8253$aw2.3593652@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> Cell phones do not go on your credit rept. good or bad...
>
Don't know who you've been doing business with, but an uncollected balance
more than 160 days old will almost always show up (through a third party
collection agancy) on your credit report. | | | | |
12-02-2003, 09:21 PM
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#26 | | Guest |
May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why they
provided service, remember? It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:0vdpsvkj5o0o4qvs00bpre3ug7f2apfnm3@4ax.com...
> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
Good
> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>
> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:31:47 GMT, "SueNY" <sue.nyc@nospam.att.net> wrote:
>
> > It's $200 per phone and they will not negotiate. Nextel is very firm
about
> >that and will not hesitate to go after you if you refuse to pay. If you
> >somehow think you don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee spelled out
in
> >the contract you signed you're better off waiting the 6 months til your
> >contract expires.
> >
> >SueNY
> >
> >"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:rj57svcoosv824t4sn96fp1a21qb8ejhe8@4ax.com.. .
> >> I have 5 phones on my business account and I am closing up shop soon.
I
> >still
> >> have 6 months or so left since my last changes, so I'm sure they'll hit
me
> >> with a penalty fee.
> >>
> >> Do you know if it's per phone or account? Also, I assume there is some
> >> flexibility or negotiating that can be done since the end result is I
> >either
> >> pay a fee that is "acceptable", or I walk away and pay them nothing and
> >they
> >> lose.
> >>
> >> Has anyone had similar dealings?
> >
>
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12-02-2003, 09:21 PM
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#27 | | Guest |
May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why they
provided service, remember? It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:0vdpsvkj5o0o4qvs00bpre3ug7f2apfnm3@4ax.com...
> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
Good
> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>
> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:31:47 GMT, "SueNY" <sue.nyc@nospam.att.net> wrote:
>
> > It's $200 per phone and they will not negotiate. Nextel is very firm
about
> >that and will not hesitate to go after you if you refuse to pay. If you
> >somehow think you don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee spelled out
in
> >the contract you signed you're better off waiting the 6 months til your
> >contract expires.
> >
> >SueNY
> >
> >"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:rj57svcoosv824t4sn96fp1a21qb8ejhe8@4ax.com.. .
> >> I have 5 phones on my business account and I am closing up shop soon.
I
> >still
> >> have 6 months or so left since my last changes, so I'm sure they'll hit
me
> >> with a penalty fee.
> >>
> >> Do you know if it's per phone or account? Also, I assume there is some
> >> flexibility or negotiating that can be done since the end result is I
> >either
> >> pay a fee that is "acceptable", or I walk away and pay them nothing and
> >they
> >> lose.
> >>
> >> Has anyone had similar dealings?
> >
>
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12-02-2003, 10:55 PM
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#28 | | Guest |
In message <<yUXyb.8253$aw2.3593652@newssrv26.news.prodigy.co m>> "brian"
<prophetxx@avenew.com> did ramble:
>Cell phones do not go on your credit rept. good or bad...
>
>thank god, otherwise half america would have ****ty credit...why do you
>think you pay so much for service? because you're helping pay for the phones
>of the millions that get contracts, and then drop em..
Umm, huh? Why wouldn't they show up on your credit report? -- As long
as they bothered to do a credit check when you signed up, then they
definitely have the ability to claim an unpaid debt on your credit
report.
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12-02-2003, 10:55 PM
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#29 | | Guest |
In message <<yUXyb.8253$aw2.3593652@newssrv26.news.prodigy.co m>> "brian"
<prophetxx@avenew.com> did ramble:
>Cell phones do not go on your credit rept. good or bad...
>
>thank god, otherwise half america would have ****ty credit...why do you
>think you pay so much for service? because you're helping pay for the phones
>of the millions that get contracts, and then drop em..
Umm, huh? Why wouldn't they show up on your credit report? -- As long
as they bothered to do a credit check when you signed up, then they
definitely have the ability to claim an unpaid debt on your credit
report.
--
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12-03-2003, 06:49 AM
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#30 | | Guest |
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <sue.nyc@nospam.att.net> wrote:
>May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
>contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why they
>provided service, remember?
Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it. Period. I
needed the service at the time.
>It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
>pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
Cry me a river.
Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel $200,
that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly money and
are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
>
>"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:0vdpsvkj5o0o4qvs00bpre3ug7f2apfnm3@4ax.com.. .
>> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
>Good
>> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>>
>> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:31:47 GMT, "SueNY" <sue.nyc@nospam.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> > It's $200 per phone and they will not negotiate. Nextel is very firm
>about
>> >that and will not hesitate to go after you if you refuse to pay. If you
>> >somehow think you don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee spelled out
>in
>> >the contract you signed you're better off waiting the 6 months til your
>> >contract expires.
>> >
>> >SueNY
>> >
>> >"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> >news:rj57svcoosv824t4sn96fp1a21qb8ejhe8@4ax.com.. .
>> >> I have 5 phones on my business account and I am closing up shop soon.
>I
>> >still
>> >> have 6 months or so left since my last changes, so I'm sure they'll hit
>me
>> >> with a penalty fee.
>> >>
>> >> Do you know if it's per phone or account? Also, I assume there is some
>> >> flexibility or negotiating that can be done since the end result is I
>> >either
>> >> pay a fee that is "acceptable", or I walk away and pay them nothing and
>> >they
>> >> lose.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone had similar dealings?
>> >
>>
>
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