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  1. #61
    Thomas M. Goethe
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    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    >


    Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I am
    not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in 1900.


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe





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  2. #62
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    Thomas M. Goethe wrote:

    > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    >>

    >
    > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I am
    > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > 1900.
    >
    >


    That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one for
    cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    to use the two-way spectrum.

    I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.



  3. #63
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    Thomas M. Goethe wrote:

    > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    >>

    >
    > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I am
    > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > 1900.
    >
    >


    That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one for
    cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    to use the two-way spectrum.

    I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.



  4. #64
    Dan Tso
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    In article <hQoxb.323708$Tr4.995165@attbi_s03>, Mark Kim <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    >So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
    >Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
    >phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?


    You're right. Its the different cell phone schematics. Also Verizon and
    Sprint use different framulators. But the biggest difference is in their flux
    capacitors... Verizon gets theirs from Yoyodyne in New Jersey...




  5. #65
    Dan Tso
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    In article <hQoxb.323708$Tr4.995165@attbi_s03>, Mark Kim <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    >So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
    >Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
    >phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?


    You're right. Its the different cell phone schematics. Also Verizon and
    Sprint use different framulators. But the biggest difference is in their flux
    capacitors... Verizon gets theirs from Yoyodyne in New Jersey...




  6. #66
    JRW
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    Dan Tso wrote:
    > You're right. Its the different cell phone schematics. Also Verizon and
    > Sprint use different framulators. But the biggest difference is in their flux
    > capacitors... Verizon gets theirs from Yoyodyne in New Jersey...


    And they operate at 1900 "Gee-ga" hertz.




  7. #67
    JRW
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    Dan Tso wrote:
    > You're right. Its the different cell phone schematics. Also Verizon and
    > Sprint use different framulators. But the biggest difference is in their flux
    > capacitors... Verizon gets theirs from Yoyodyne in New Jersey...


    And they operate at 1900 "Gee-ga" hertz.




  8. #68
    Thomas M. Goethe
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Thomas M. Goethe wrote:
    >
    > > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    > >>

    > >
    > > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I

    am
    > > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > > 1900.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one

    for
    > cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    > to use the two-way spectrum.
    >
    > I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    > safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.


    Ah, didn't know they had made the request for the spectrum. I don't see
    how they are interfering with public safety radio, however, unless public
    safety simply wants their spectrum. They would be nuts to give swap 800
    spectrum for 1900. You are right, of course, that there would be no problem
    in adding a second band to an existing radio


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe





  9. #69
    Thomas M. Goethe
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Thomas M. Goethe wrote:
    >
    > > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    > >>

    > >
    > > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I

    am
    > > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > > 1900.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one

    for
    > cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    > to use the two-way spectrum.
    >
    > I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    > safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.


    Ah, didn't know they had made the request for the spectrum. I don't see
    how they are interfering with public safety radio, however, unless public
    safety simply wants their spectrum. They would be nuts to give swap 800
    spectrum for 1900. You are right, of course, that there would be no problem
    in adding a second band to an existing radio


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe





  10. #70
    MarkF
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    "Thomas M. Goethe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Thomas M. Goethe wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > > >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > > >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I

    > am
    > > > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > > > 1900.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one

    > for
    > > cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    > > to use the two-way spectrum.
    > >
    > > I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    > > safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.

    >
    > Ah, didn't know they had made the request for the spectrum. I don't see
    > how they are interfering with public safety radio, however, unless public
    > safety simply wants their spectrum. They would be nuts to give swap 800
    > spectrum for 1900. You are right, of course, that there would be no problem
    > in adding a second band to an existing radio



    The request from NEXTEL to the FCC is to re-align the 800 band and
    move the 821-823 MHz NPSPAC band (that is reserved for Public Safety)
    down to 806MHz and allow NEXTEL to utilize 821 to 823 Mhz block in a
    continuous basis across the Country. Basicially what NEXTEL is trying
    to do is to create another frequency block for themselves and remove
    the interlaced licensing that right now exists in the 806 to 820 MHz.
    In addition to this NEXTEL is looking for a 10 MHz block in 1.9 GHz
    and is willing to fork over 850 Million dollars to do this.

    There are tons of on-line papers and conversations on the net in a
    number of groups. The best one that I have found is NEXTEL1 in Yahoo
    groups where the info is very informative and pretty much up to date.

    You can also find info on the APCO website (www.apco911.org) and look
    under 800 MHz interference.

    Mark



  11. #71
    MarkF
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    "Thomas M. Goethe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Thomas M. Goethe wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > > >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > > >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I

    > am
    > > > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > > > 1900.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one

    > for
    > > cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    > > to use the two-way spectrum.
    > >
    > > I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    > > safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.

    >
    > Ah, didn't know they had made the request for the spectrum. I don't see
    > how they are interfering with public safety radio, however, unless public
    > safety simply wants their spectrum. They would be nuts to give swap 800
    > spectrum for 1900. You are right, of course, that there would be no problem
    > in adding a second band to an existing radio



    The request from NEXTEL to the FCC is to re-align the 800 band and
    move the 821-823 MHz NPSPAC band (that is reserved for Public Safety)
    down to 806MHz and allow NEXTEL to utilize 821 to 823 Mhz block in a
    continuous basis across the Country. Basicially what NEXTEL is trying
    to do is to create another frequency block for themselves and remove
    the interlaced licensing that right now exists in the 806 to 820 MHz.
    In addition to this NEXTEL is looking for a 10 MHz block in 1.9 GHz
    and is willing to fork over 850 Million dollars to do this.

    There are tons of on-line papers and conversations on the net in a
    number of groups. The best one that I have found is NEXTEL1 in Yahoo
    groups where the info is very informative and pretty much up to date.

    You can also find info on the APCO website (www.apco911.org) and look
    under 800 MHz interference.

    Mark



  12. #72
    Stevie Ray
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    Whatever Nextel ends up doing, I wish that they would improve the
    ability of their signal to penetrate buildings. Their coverage is
    pretty much dedicated to major cities and highways, but suck when it
    comes to penetrating buildings with any consistancy or without putting
    in repeaters. Any comments welcome.





    In article <[email protected]>, MarkF
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Thomas M. Goethe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thomas M. Goethe wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > > > >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > > > >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I

    > > am
    > > > > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > > > > 1900.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one

    > > for
    > > > cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    > > > to use the two-way spectrum.
    > > >
    > > > I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    > > > safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.

    > >
    > > Ah, didn't know they had made the request for the spectrum. I don't see
    > > how they are interfering with public safety radio, however, unless public
    > > safety simply wants their spectrum. They would be nuts to give swap 800
    > > spectrum for 1900. You are right, of course, that there would be no problem
    > > in adding a second band to an existing radio

    >
    >
    > The request from NEXTEL to the FCC is to re-align the 800 band and
    > move the 821-823 MHz NPSPAC band (that is reserved for Public Safety)
    > down to 806MHz and allow NEXTEL to utilize 821 to 823 Mhz block in a
    > continuous basis across the Country. Basicially what NEXTEL is trying
    > to do is to create another frequency block for themselves and remove
    > the interlaced licensing that right now exists in the 806 to 820 MHz.
    > In addition to this NEXTEL is looking for a 10 MHz block in 1.9 GHz
    > and is willing to fork over 850 Million dollars to do this.
    >
    > There are tons of on-line papers and conversations on the net in a
    > number of groups. The best one that I have found is NEXTEL1 in Yahoo
    > groups where the info is very informative and pretty much up to date.
    >
    > You can also find info on the APCO website (www.apco911.org) and look
    > under 800 MHz interference.
    >
    > Mark




  13. #73
    Stevie Ray
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    Whatever Nextel ends up doing, I wish that they would improve the
    ability of their signal to penetrate buildings. Their coverage is
    pretty much dedicated to major cities and highways, but suck when it
    comes to penetrating buildings with any consistancy or without putting
    in repeaters. Any comments welcome.





    In article <[email protected]>, MarkF
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Thomas M. Goethe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thomas M. Goethe wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > "Mark Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:rjzxb.133436$Dw6.571233@attbi_s02...
    > > > >> I don't know if Nextel has any plans to deploy 1900MHz frequency since
    > > > >> they only invest whatever is stable for the majority customer base....
    > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > > Nextel uses two-way radio frequencies, not telephone frequencies. I

    > > am
    > > > > not sure, but I don't think that there is any spectrum for two-ways in
    > > > > 1900.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > That would not prevent them from developing a dual frequency phone- one

    > > for
    > > > cellular and another for DC. They could then utilize 1900MHz and continue
    > > > to use the two-way spectrum.
    > > >
    > > > I believe their proposal to the government regarding eliminating public
    > > > safety interference asks for a swap to 1900MHz, IIRC.

    > >
    > > Ah, didn't know they had made the request for the spectrum. I don't see
    > > how they are interfering with public safety radio, however, unless public
    > > safety simply wants their spectrum. They would be nuts to give swap 800
    > > spectrum for 1900. You are right, of course, that there would be no problem
    > > in adding a second band to an existing radio

    >
    >
    > The request from NEXTEL to the FCC is to re-align the 800 band and
    > move the 821-823 MHz NPSPAC band (that is reserved for Public Safety)
    > down to 806MHz and allow NEXTEL to utilize 821 to 823 Mhz block in a
    > continuous basis across the Country. Basicially what NEXTEL is trying
    > to do is to create another frequency block for themselves and remove
    > the interlaced licensing that right now exists in the 806 to 820 MHz.
    > In addition to this NEXTEL is looking for a 10 MHz block in 1.9 GHz
    > and is willing to fork over 850 Million dollars to do this.
    >
    > There are tons of on-line papers and conversations on the net in a
    > number of groups. The best one that I have found is NEXTEL1 in Yahoo
    > groups where the info is very informative and pretty much up to date.
    >
    > You can also find info on the APCO website (www.apco911.org) and look
    > under 800 MHz interference.
    >
    > Mark




  14. #74
    Brian
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    What do you care, Larry? Unless you are one of TechTV's lawyers, it's not
    really any of your business whose site it is.



    "Larry W4CSC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Ok, all I saw was it was a personal webpage. I suppose the TechTV
    > lawyers will call him if they find him.....
    >
    >
    >
    > On 26 Nov 2003 19:22:54 -0800, [email protected] (MarkF) wrote:
    >
    > >Here is the url for TechTV. It is interesting to read that:
    > >"Sprint PCS has also just launched its new service, but it declined to
    > >participate in our comparison" as stated in the url below.
    > >
    > >http://www.techtv.com/freshgear/prod...577091,00.html
    > >
    > >So I guess they figured that if their network/PTT performance didn't
    > >live up to the other 2 then they would be dead last in the comparison.
    > >
    > >As a follow up to Larry's question, no Larry it's not my site.
    > >Someone on HowardForums posted the link. I don't know if they
    > >recorded it and is hosting it, but it's not me.
    > >
    > >73's
    > >Mark

    >
    > Larry W4CSC
    >
    > NNNN
    >






  15. #75
    Brian
    Guest

    Re: NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

    What do you care, Larry? Unless you are one of TechTV's lawyers, it's not
    really any of your business whose site it is.



    "Larry W4CSC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Ok, all I saw was it was a personal webpage. I suppose the TechTV
    > lawyers will call him if they find him.....
    >
    >
    >
    > On 26 Nov 2003 19:22:54 -0800, [email protected] (MarkF) wrote:
    >
    > >Here is the url for TechTV. It is interesting to read that:
    > >"Sprint PCS has also just launched its new service, but it declined to
    > >participate in our comparison" as stated in the url below.
    > >
    > >http://www.techtv.com/freshgear/prod...577091,00.html
    > >
    > >So I guess they figured that if their network/PTT performance didn't
    > >live up to the other 2 then they would be dead last in the comparison.
    > >
    > >As a follow up to Larry's question, no Larry it's not my site.
    > >Someone on HowardForums posted the link. I don't know if they
    > >recorded it and is hosting it, but it's not me.
    > >
    > >73's
    > >Mark

    >
    > Larry W4CSC
    >
    > NNNN
    >






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