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Old 01-17-2004, 06:55 AM   #1
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Nokia6600+Java+Camera+Bluetooth=Webcamera for Desktop/Laptop?


Hi...
Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....

Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...

The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
And as far as I know...

Any JAVA-programmers out there??????

My idea is simple

You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
....but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P

In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via Bluetooth/IR...

It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...

So..any good programmers out there?........


/Bård
Norway



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Old 01-17-2004, 07:07 AM   #2
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please have a look at

www.handango.com

the program you mentioned about the webcam is there ....
or try

www.my-symbian.com

before asking about programs....

basically all of the programs are there.....

cheers

"Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
> Hi...
> Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
> Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
> nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
>
> Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
> the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
> Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
> time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
>
> The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
> and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
> And as far as I know...
>
> Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
>
> My idea is simple
>
> You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
> from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
> select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
> The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
> ...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
> devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
> optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
> running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
> as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
> MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
>
> In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
> program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

Bluetooth/IR...
>
> It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
> camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
> a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
> would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
> all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
>
> So..any good programmers out there?........
>
>
> /Bård
> Norway
>



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Old 01-17-2004, 07:10 AM   #3
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Buy another webcam, that is the most sensible option in the long run.

"Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
> Hi...
> Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
> Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
> nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
>
> Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
> the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
> Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
> time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
>
> The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
> and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
> And as far as I know...
>
> Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
>
> My idea is simple
>
> You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
> from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
> select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
> The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
> ...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
> devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
> optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
> running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
> as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
> MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
>
> In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
> program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

Bluetooth/IR...
>
> It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
> camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
> a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
> would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
> all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
>
> So..any good programmers out there?........
>
>
> /Bård
> Norway
>



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Old 01-17-2004, 07:18 PM   #4
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I dunno .. i think thats actually a good idea ..

I mean .. it has a video ability, it has bluetooth wireless .. why not use
them together? It might not be easy to actually emulate a webcam that would
work with IMs right away, but im sure some kind of video streaming system
could be developed ..

If its not already, of course ..

I'm just saying I like the idea .. hey, itd be neat for spying .. leave your
cam in the next room (if you can get bluetooth range, of course) and watch


"Macbeth" <1@2.com> wrote in message
news:vvaOb.97$%Q6.25@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Buy another webcam, that is the most sensible option in the long run.
>
> "Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
> news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
> > Hi...
> > Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
> > Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
> > nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
> >
> > Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
> > the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
> > Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
> > time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
> >
> > The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
> > and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
> > And as far as I know...
> >
> > Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
> >
> > My idea is simple
> >
> > You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
> > from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
> > select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
> > The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
> > ...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
> > devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
> > optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
> > running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
> > as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
> > MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
> >
> > In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
> > program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

> Bluetooth/IR...
> >
> > It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
> > camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
> > a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
> > would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
> > all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
> >
> > So..any good programmers out there?........
> >
> >
> > /Bård
> > Norway
> >

>
>



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Old 01-17-2004, 08:15 PM   #5
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thnx....well..tried to search..but only got up a lot of Chez
webpages....and understood nothing...CHEERS!!!..
Thnx!

a_dude wrote:
> please have a look at
>
> www.handango.com
>
> the program you mentioned about the webcam is there ....
> or try
>
> www.my-symbian.com
>
> before asking about programs....
>
> basically all of the programs are there.....
>
> cheers
>
> "Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
> news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
>
>>Hi...
>>Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
>>Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
>>nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
>>
>>Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
>>the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
>>Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
>>time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
>>
>>The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
>>and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
>>And as far as I know...
>>
>>Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
>>
>>My idea is simple
>>
>>You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
>>from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
>>select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
>>The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
>>...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
>>devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
>>optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
>>running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
>>as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
>>MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
>>
>>In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
>>program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

>
> Bluetooth/IR...
>
>>It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
>>camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
>>a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
>>would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
>>all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
>>
>>So..any good programmers out there?........
>>
>>
>>/Bård
>>Norway
>>

>
>
>


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Old 01-17-2004, 08:16 PM   #6
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well..nope.....the normal webcams are to lightning senstive....one
slight miss in the light....and U end up with a yellow, blue, or green
image......webcams sux..

Macbeth wrote:

> Buy another webcam, that is the most sensible option in the long run.
>
> "Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
> news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
>
>>Hi...
>>Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
>>Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
>>nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
>>
>>Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
>>the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
>>Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
>>time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
>>
>>The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
>>and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
>>And as far as I know...
>>
>>Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
>>
>>My idea is simple
>>
>>You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
>>from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
>>select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
>>The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
>>...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
>>devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
>>optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
>>running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
>>as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
>>MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
>>
>>In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
>>program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

>
> Bluetooth/IR...
>
>>It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
>>camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
>>a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
>>would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
>>all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
>>
>>So..any good programmers out there?........
>>
>>
>>/Bård
>>Norway
>>

>
>
>


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Old 01-17-2004, 08:17 PM   #7
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On the other hand..maybe we should leave this idea be.....or we'll have
the fedz on our asses..

Lord-Data wrote:

> I dunno .. i think thats actually a good idea ..
>
> I mean .. it has a video ability, it has bluetooth wireless .. why not use
> them together? It might not be easy to actually emulate a webcam that would
> work with IMs right away, but im sure some kind of video streaming system
> could be developed ..
>
> If its not already, of course ..
>
> I'm just saying I like the idea .. hey, itd be neat for spying .. leave your
> cam in the next room (if you can get bluetooth range, of course) and watch
>
>


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Old 01-18-2004, 12:19 AM   #8
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theres software that does that already

"Lord-Data" <data@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:4009e457@nexus.comcen.com.au...
> I dunno .. i think thats actually a good idea ..
>
> I mean .. it has a video ability, it has bluetooth wireless .. why not use
> them together? It might not be easy to actually emulate a webcam that

would
> work with IMs right away, but im sure some kind of video streaming system
> could be developed ..
>
> If its not already, of course ..
>
> I'm just saying I like the idea .. hey, itd be neat for spying .. leave

your
> cam in the next room (if you can get bluetooth range, of course) and watch
>
>
> "Macbeth" <1@2.com> wrote in message
> news:vvaOb.97$%Q6.25@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Buy another webcam, that is the most sensible option in the long run.
> >
> > "Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
> > news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
> > > Hi...
> > > Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
> > > Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
> > > nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
> > >
> > > Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most

of
> > > the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
> > > Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
> > > time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
> > >
> > > The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more

accurate
> > > and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
> > > And as far as I know...
> > >
> > > Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
> > >
> > > My idea is simple
> > >
> > > You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
> > > from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
> > > select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
> > > The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
> > > ...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other

JAVA-enabled
> > > devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as

an
> > > optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
> > > running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE

itself
> > > as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
> > > MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
> > >
> > > In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and

this
> > > program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

> > Bluetooth/IR...
> > >
> > > It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
> > > camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could

sense
> > > a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
> > > would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
> > > all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
> > >
> > > So..any good programmers out there?........
> > >
> > >
> > > /Bård
> > > Norway
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 01-18-2004, 03:09 AM   #9
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The concept isnt illegal .. its uses could be .. but the same can be said
for almost anything .. a 5 min timer on the camera could be just as bad if
used well ..

Even that "Security" app that takes pics when it sees motion .. that could
do the same function ..


"Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
news:bucq78$1bpo$3@news.dataguard.no...
> On the other hand..maybe we should leave this idea be.....or we'll have
> the fedz on our asses..
>
> Lord-Data wrote:
>
> > I dunno .. i think thats actually a good idea ..
> >
> > I mean .. it has a video ability, it has bluetooth wireless .. why not

use
> > them together? It might not be easy to actually emulate a webcam that

would
> > work with IMs right away, but im sure some kind of video streaming

system
> > could be developed ..
> >
> > If its not already, of course ..
> >
> > I'm just saying I like the idea .. hey, itd be neat for spying .. leave

your
> > cam in the next room (if you can get bluetooth range, of course) and

watch
> >
> >

>



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Old 01-18-2004, 03:10 AM   #10
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Im' sure you can get better webcams .. logitech pro 4000 should be a lot
better than you describe, but I still think your original idea has merit ..
youv got a lens, youv got a wireless link up .. why not use em .. if i could
program for symbian (only know delphi for windows) then i'd probably look at
it myself ..

I guess a non-standard form of bluetooth linkup would also restrict ability
... Why the hell doesnt microsoft just hurry up and make a good standard and
push it on us like they do everything else .. would have solved this some
time back ..




"Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
news:bucq52$1bpo$2@news.dataguard.no...
> well..nope.....the normal webcams are to lightning senstive....one
> slight miss in the light....and U end up with a yellow, blue, or green
> image......webcams sux..
>
> Macbeth wrote:
>
> > Buy another webcam, that is the most sensible option in the long run.
> >
> > "Bård Olav Olsen" <boolsen@online.del.no> wrote in message
> > news:bubb88$koq$1@news.dataguard.no...
> >
> >>Hi...
> >>Anyone here know of a JAVA program that I can install and use on my
> >>Nokia to be able to stream the camerafeeds to my PC as a and make my
> >>nokia 6600 my webcamera????.....
> >>
> >>Would offcourse have to be when it was docked with the powercord most of
> >>the time, but still...it should be possible should it not?...:P
> >>Since the powwa in the phone can substain a feed for a short period of
> >>time..it could also be a cordless webcamera...
> >>
> >>The reason I want this is because the camera lightning is more accurate
> >>and better in the nokia phones than in my logitech WEBCAM.. :P
> >>And as far as I know...
> >>
> >>Any JAVA-programmers out there??????
> >>
> >>My idea is simple
> >>
> >>You have a Java program on your Symbian-OS phone...it reads the feed
> >>from the Camera. The Software have a menu selection where people can
> >>select the destination source of nearby Bluetooth enabled devices...
> >>The JAVA software should be able to RECEIVE feeds aswell..
> >>...but primarily..it should be able to send feeds to other JAVA-enabled
> >>devices using Bluetooth as default transmission protocol...with IR as an
> >>optional way. On the receiving PC...another JAVA applet should be
> >>running....receiving the feed and this program should CAMOUFLAGE itself
> >>as a CAMERA DEVICE for the operating system..hence..U could use say
> >>MSN-Messenger to show the live feed....:P
> >>
> >>In theory it should be possible to just make ONE JAVA-program...and this
> >>program should have the possiblity to also RECEIVE feeds via

> >
> > Bluetooth/IR...
> >
> >>It would also be cool if the program also could SENSE other
> >>camera-devices ...say if it runs on a Computer in a JVM, it could sense
> >>a Logitech webcam..and steal the feed from IT. Easyest way for this
> >>would be to just have an option in the program where one could select
> >>all detected camera-devices connected to the Computer or Phone...
> >>
> >>So..any good programmers out there?........
> >>
> >>
> >>/Bård
> >>Norway
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>



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