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Old 05-12-2004, 11:27 AM   #1
michael turner
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Back to basics.


Xposted:

A few day ago I managed to lose my 6 month old Nokia 6100 on Voda
contract, I think it slipped out my pocket while at work. As soon as the
loss was discovered the SIM and phone where immediately barred.

I did think about getting another 6100, but I'm pretty sure that it's
small size contributed to it's loss.

Now I was looking round for a suitable replacement handset, I didn't want
cameras, video, MP3, FM radio, clamshells, or flips. The 6100s colour
screen while is was nice, but it wasn't really essential to my usage, same
with the poly ringtones.

So I purchased a Nokia 6310i from Voda which just does the basics well,
plus it's tri-band, Java enabled and has internet, these are features that
I've found genuinely useful in a mobile-phone. Also reading thru the
comments on uk.telecom.mobile and alt.cellular.nokia it seems to be a well
regarded phone, with no major faults. Plus it's been around for a while so
most of the bugs should have been ironed out.

And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to the
6310i. I couldn't find any.

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Old 05-12-2004, 01:06 PM   #2
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"michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
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> Xposted:
><snip>
>
> And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to the
> 6310i. I couldn't find any.


T39 and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.

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Old 05-12-2004, 01:07 PM   #3
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> "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > Xposted:
> ><snip>
> >
> > And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to the
> > 6310i. I couldn't find any.

>
> T39 and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.


Sorry, meant R520, plus it's usually dirt cheap at Expansys.

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Old 05-12-2004, 01:16 PM   #4
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"Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
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> "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > Xposted:
> ><snip>
> >
> > And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to the
> > 6310i. I couldn't find any.

>
> T39 and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.
>

Maybe similar spec, but no where as nice to use, and no other phone rivals
the 6310i battery, which can also be extended to a staggering 3200mAh.

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Old 05-12-2004, 01:44 PM   #5
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"Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > Xposted:
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > > And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to

the
> > > 6310i. I couldn't find any.

> >
> > T39 and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.
> >

> Maybe similar spec, but no where as nice to use, and no other phone rivals
> the 6310i battery, which can also be extended to a staggering 3200mAh.


Seconded. I have a 6310i and a T39, both about 3 years old. The T39 is
completely wasted, whereas the 6310i is still holding on, albeit by its
teeth.

I am currently looking for a SIM free 6310i as a replacement for my aging
one... even £200 is worth it - such a wicked phone may never be created
again.


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Old 05-12-2004, 02:05 PM   #6
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"root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > Xposted:
> > > ><snip>
> > > >
> > > > And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to

> the
> > > > 6310i. I couldn't find any.
> > >
> > > T39 and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.
> > >

> > Maybe similar spec, but no where as nice to use, and no other phone rivals
> > the 6310i battery, which can also be extended to a staggering 3200mAh.

>
> Seconded. I have a 6310i and a T39, both about 3 years old. The T39 is
> completely wasted, whereas the 6310i is still holding on, albeit by its
> teeth.
>
> I am currently looking for a SIM free 6310i as a replacement for my aging
> one... even £200 is worth it - such a wicked phone may never be created
> again.
>

Why not get one from OSPS on Orange YP120 25quid a month with
100quid cashback, downtariff in 120 days (6 months from next month)
to a 10 to 14 quid tariff
http://www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk/orange.htm
Or possibly OVP O2 400 at 45quid a month, with 220 cashback, etc.

Unlock it yourself for free using the online unlocker at:
http://www.uniquephones.com/unlock/index.php

If you buy from OSPS
Please quote my recommend a friend number to them, 284468
So I get a voucher
OSPS sales line 0800 034 5678

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Old 05-12-2004, 02:06 PM   #7
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"root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > Xposted:
> > > ><snip>
> > > >
> > > > And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced

to
> the
> > > > 6310i. I couldn't find any.
> > >
> > > T39 and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.
> > >

> > Maybe similar spec, but no where as nice to use, and no other phone

rivals
> > the 6310i battery, which can also be extended to a staggering 3200mAh.

>
> Seconded. I have a 6310i and a T39, both about 3 years old. The T39 is
> completely wasted, whereas the 6310i is still holding on, albeit by its
> teeth.
>
> I am currently looking for a SIM free 6310i as a replacement for my

aging
> one... even £200 is worth it - such a wicked phone may never be created
> again.


If you can trust eBay, there are usually some there for £100 or so, I've
had a couple for £100 and £120 that are fine.

Ivor


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Old 05-12-2004, 02:12 PM   #8
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"Ivor Jones" <this.address@notvalid.inv> wrote in message
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> "root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > > Xposted:
> > > > ><snip>

<snip>
> If you can trust eBay, there are usually some there for £100 or so,
> I've had a couple for £100 and £120 that are fine.
> Ivor
>

Don't even consider eBay, or used, unless you know the phones history in detail,
the CEIR blacklist has put paid to it.

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Old 05-12-2004, 02:17 PM   #9
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"Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <this.address@notvalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:c7tsj6$sbh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in

message
> > > > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > > > Xposted:
> > > > > ><snip>

> <snip>
> > If you can trust eBay, there are usually some there for £100 or so,
> > I've had a couple for £100 and £120 that are fine.
> > Ivor
> >

> Don't even consider eBay, or used, unless you know the phones history in

detail,
> the CEIR blacklist has put paid to it.
>
> Steve Terry


Perhaps I've been lucky then. Although I do usually try and only buy from
sellers close enough to me to visit so I can see the goods before handing
over any money. I'm a reasonably good judge of character when I meet
people face to face and I've not been wrong so far.

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Old 05-12-2004, 02:26 PM   #10
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"Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <this.address@notvalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:c7tsj6$sbh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in

message
> > > > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > > > Xposted:
> > > > > ><snip>

> <snip>
> > If you can trust eBay, there are usually some there for £100 or so,
> > I've had a couple for £100 and £120 that are fine.
> > Ivor
> >

> Don't even consider eBay, or used, unless you know the phones history in

detail,
> the CEIR blacklist has put paid to it.


Sorry Steve, but I can't agree with you on this one. So long as people do
their research first, and vet the seller, there is no reason why they
shouldn't buy second hand.

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Old 05-12-2004, 02:28 PM   #11
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"Ivor Jones" <this.address@notvalid.inv> wrote in message
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> "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:2gfb91F268vpU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Ivor Jones" <this.address@notvalid.inv> wrote in message
> > news:c7tsj6$sbh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > "root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in

> message
> > > > > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > > > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > > > > Xposted:
> > > > > > ><snip>

> > <snip>
> > > If you can trust eBay, there are usually some there for £100 or so,
> > > I've had a couple for £100 and £120 that are fine.
> > > Ivor
> > >

> > Don't even consider eBay, or used, unless you know the phones history
> > in detail, the CEIR blacklist has put paid to it.
> > Steve Terry

>
> Perhaps I've been lucky then. Although I do usually try and only buy from
> sellers close enough to me to visit so I can see the goods before handing
> over any money. I'm a reasonably good judge of character when I meet
> people face to face and I've not been wrong so far.
> Ivor
>

But the original owner can report it lost or stolen any time later,
and as 2nd user you have no rights at all to have the blacklist lifted.

It aint worth the risk, not when they are still available new, with loads of
network subsidy, making it cheap, and of course full Club Nokia guarantee.

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Old 05-12-2004, 07:52 PM   #12
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:06:00 +0000, Richard Colton wrote:

>
> "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
>> Xposted:
>><snip>
>>
>> And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to the
>> 6310i. I couldn't find any.

>
> T39


Unfortunately that's been discontinued. I used to have a t68 however,
which I used heavily for two years. I sold it to a friend six months ago,
and it's still going strong.

> and R320 from Ericsson spec wise are very similar to the 6310i.


AFAIK that's also discontinued.

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Old 05-13-2004, 03:49 AM   #13
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"michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:06:00 +0000, Richard Colton wrote:
>
> >
> > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> >> Xposted:
> >><snip>
> >>
> >> And there any other handsets from manufacturers similarly specced to

the
> >> 6310i. I couldn't find any.

> >
> > T39

>
> Unfortunately that's been discontinued. I used to have a t68 however,
> which I used heavily for two years. I sold it to a friend six months ago,
> and it's still going strong.


Perhaps, but yo ucan still get one from extele.net - according to their web
site, anyway.


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> > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> > > "Ivor Jones" <this.address@notvalid.inv> wrote in message
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> > > > "root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in

> > message
> > > > > > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > > > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > > > > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > > > > > Xposted:
> > > > > > > ><snip>
> > > <snip>
> > > > If you can trust eBay, there are usually some there for £100 or so,
> > > > I've had a couple for £100 and £120 that are fine.
> > > > Ivor
> > > >
> > > Don't even consider eBay, or used, unless you know the phones history
> > > in detail, the CEIR blacklist has put paid to it.
> > > Steve Terry

[...]
> But the original owner can report it lost or stolen any time later,
> and as 2nd user you have no rights at all to have the blacklist lifted.
>
> It aint worth the risk, not when they are still available new, with loads

of
> network subsidy, making it cheap, and of course full Club Nokia guarantee.


I agree with you, Steve. I wouldn't buy a used phone on ebay, not even a
new one. The risk is too high - if they black list it later on, you've had
it.


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"Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> "root" <aetos@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:2gf9l3F27ok9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Steve Terry" <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:2gf7ueF268h6U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:cItoc.1830$RJ1.14394562@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> > > > newsan.2004.05.12.16.27.52.739000@ivetva.arg...
> > > > > Xposted:


[...]

> Why not get one from OSPS on Orange YP120 25quid a month with
> 100quid cashback, downtariff in 120 days (6 months from next month)
> to a 10 to 14 quid tariff
> http://www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk/orange.htm
> Or possibly OVP O2 400 at 45quid a month, with 220 cashback, etc.
>
> Unlock it yourself for free using the online unlocker at:
> http://www.uniquephones.com/unlock/index.php


Thanks for the advice Steve, but I have so many contracts going right now, I
doubt I'll even pass the credit check.

Got to hand it to you though, that Vodafone 100 offer (albeit from Phone4U -
spit!), was great. I hardly ever pay Orange's bean counters the money I was
before...


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