Best phone for Business???

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:11:14 +0100, "Steve Terry"
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>"eggster2k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:28:15 +0100, "Steve Terry"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >"michael turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:23:18 +0100, Steve wrote:
>> >> > michael turner wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:30:13 +0000, TheQueen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Whats the best business phone in your opinion. <snip>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nokia 6310i ... Nuff said.
>> ><snip>
>> >and probably the most reliable phone Nokia have ever made,
>> >I've two of them and neither have had to see a CNSC
>> >(Touch wood)
>> >Steve Terry
>>
>> if by reliable you mean stable firmware, how come 6310i's need the
>> latest firmware to work good with bluetooth?
>>
>The first year of firmware is always Beta on Nokia.
>It take that long for Nokia to get the kid who writes it away from his PS2 ;-)
>
good one :-) . I remember the bugs the 6610 had when it first came
out, one good one was the caller group bug where if a caller was in a
group the backlight wouldn't come on!!

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"Paul Hopwood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "TheQueen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>

> It does everything you want and has all the key business features
> (good phonebook, easy of use, robust, good battery life, tri-band etc)
> without all the "unnecessary" features such as camera, colour screen,
> picture messaging etc. It also the only handset I'm aware of which is
> supported by all major car manufacturers.
>
>

How do people find that manufacturers branded carkits compare with the
CARK91? I'm probably going to be changing cars by the end of the year, and
the model I am almost certainly going to be getting, doesn't seem to have
too many spaces to fit the Nokia cradle (Toyota Corolla "old" shape) without
drilling holes in the dash - which I'd like to avoid if possible.

On the other hand, the Toyoya brochure for fully fitted jobbies looks like a
good avenue to follow, and the picture on the front cover is of a 6210 in a
cradle that isn't far removed from the CARK91. On this basis, part of my
"shopping around" will include comparing CARK91 fitting options with
something Toyota-branded.

Thanks for any pointers.

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"Bill Gates" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hello.
> >
> > Undoubtedly the best business Nokia phone is 6600.
>
> Hello yourself, I think you've been at the drinks cabinet a bit early if you
> think that the Nokia 6600 is the best business Nokia ... but then to add
> undoubtedly!

Hello.

I think you've been at the grass smoking cabinet a bit early if you
can't say neither any other arguments nor your own opinion about the
question being discussed.

Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.
Oxygen Software - tools for your Nokia.
Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your Nokia.
[email protected]
http://www.oxygensoftware.com
http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk

michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > Undoubtedly the best business Nokia phone is 6600.
>
> It's got a camera, which immediately makes it NO good to me as a business
> phone.

Hello.

Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
of 6600? It's just a useful add-on allowing to implement the perfect
idea of personal contact images. In my humble opinion the business
phone should comply with these requirements:
1. Has enough memory for storing 1000+ contacts.
2. Has advanced phonebook that can store several types of additional
contact information.
3. Has no restriction about number of phones of specified type per
contact.
4. Has advanced Calendar and To-Do functionality.
5. Has powerful Messaging system integrating all types of messages:
e-mail, SMS, MMS etc not limiting the maximum number of messages that
can be stored in phone.
6. Has advanced connection (Bluetooth, IR port, GPRS) and PC
synchronization capabilities.
7. Has not only WAP, but WWW browser.
8. Has expandable memory slots.
9. The last but not least. The business phone's features and
capabilities must be easily expandable by third-party software.

At this moment Nokia 6600 suits all these requirements better than
other Nokia models. The only weak place is Calendar, but our
experience shows that the Calendar application itself *can* process
complex events and non-standard recurrency, it just has no interface
to maintain such events. Therefore after adding this functionality to
the Symbian version of Oxygen Phone Manager, Nokia 6600 became the
ideal business phone for me.

Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.
Oxygen Software - tools for your Nokia.
Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your Nokia.
[email protected]
http://www.oxygensoftware.com
http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk

"Oxygen Software" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Undoubtedly the best business Nokia phone is 6600.
> >
> > It's got a camera, which immediately makes it NO good to me as a
business
> > phone.
>
> Hello.
>
> Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
> of 6600? It's just a useful add-on allowing to implement the perfect
> idea of personal contact images. In my humble opinion the business
> phone should comply with these requirements:

In some business's, such as the one I work in, we are NOT allowed on most
sites with a camera (of ANY type) and that includes phones with camera's
built in. They check EVERY person to ensure they comply.
Failure to comply will result in you being keep there (I'll let you work out
the types of places from that).

John..

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:22:32 +0100, Nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Oxygen Software" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> > >
>> > > Undoubtedly the best business Nokia phone is 6600.
>> >
>> > It's got a camera, which immediately makes it NO good to me as a
>business
>> > phone.
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
>> of 6600? It's just a useful add-on allowing to implement the perfect
>> idea of personal contact images. In my humble opinion the business
>> phone should comply with these requirements:
>
>In some business's, such as the one I work in, we are NOT allowed on most
>sites with a camera (of ANY type) and that includes phones with camera's
>built in. They check EVERY person to ensure they comply.
>Failure to comply will result in you being keep there (I'll let you work out
>the types of places from that).

I'll second that.

Although I've got a V500 now, I've put my OVP-VM SIM into my 6310i which I
take to work...

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 04:04:15 -0700, Oxygen Software wrote:

> michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> >
>> > Undoubtedly the best business Nokia phone is 6600.
>>
>> It's got a camera, which immediately makes it NO good to me as a business
>> phone.
>
> Hello.
>
> Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
> of 6600?

It's already been discussed at length in this NG several times. A lot of
business, government, whatever establishments have NO CAMERA rules

Plus most people who genuinely needs a camera for their business, they
ain't goin' to bother with the ****ty low-rez toys that most phones
seem to have. They tend to use _real_ cameras, either film or digital,
e.g. a lot of surveyers tend to use Polaroid instant-film cameras.

> It's just a useful add-on allowing to implement the perfect
> idea of personal contact images. In my humble opinion the business
> phone should comply with these requirements:
> 1. Has enough memory for storing 1000+ contacts.
> 2. Has advanced phonebook that can store several types of additional
> contact information.
> 3. Has no restriction about number of phones of specified type per
> contact.
> 4. Has advanced Calendar and To-Do functionality.
> 5. Has powerful Messaging system integrating all types of messages:
> e-mail, SMS, MMS etc not limiting the maximum number of messages that
> can be stored in phone.
> 6. Has advanced connection (Bluetooth, IR port, GPRS) and PC
> synchronization capabilities.
> 7. Has not only WAP, but WWW browser.
> 8. Has expandable memory slots.
> 9. The last but not least. The business phone's features and
> capabilities must be easily expandable by third-party software.
>
> At this moment Nokia 6600 suits all these requirements better than
> other Nokia models. The only weak place is Calendar, but our
> experience shows that the Calendar application itself *can* process
> complex events and non-standard recurrency, it just has no interface
> to maintain such events. Therefore after adding this functionality to
> the Symbian version of Oxygen Phone Manager,

Now if they did a NON-camera version of the 6600, it would be a
different story.

> Nokia 6600 became the
> ideal business phone for me.

Whatever suits you best.

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"michael turner" <[email protected]> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 04:04:15 -0700, Oxygen Software wrote:
>
> > michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> >> >
> >> > Undoubtedly the best business Nokia phone is 6600.
> >>
> >> It's got a camera, which immediately makes it NO good to me as a
business
> >> phone.
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
> > of 6600?
>
> It's already been discussed at length in this NG several times. A lot of
> business, government, whatever establishments have NO CAMERA rules
>
> Plus most people who genuinely needs a camera for their business, they
> ain't goin' to bother with the ****ty low-rez toys that most phones
> seem to have. They tend to use _real_ cameras, either film or digital,
> e.g. a lot of surveyers tend to use Polaroid instant-film cameras.

Need to have, nice to have...... I think that most companys don't have a
policy about cameras,
my company, a bank, don't have, and often when I visit a customer I take
some shoots, shows them to the people at the office and file them. Very
usefull.

Peter

"Nospam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
> > of 6600? It's just a useful add-on allowing to implement the perfect
> > idea of personal contact images. In my humble opinion the business
> > phone should comply with these requirements:
>
> In some business's, such as the one I work in, we are NOT allowed on most
> sites with a camera (of ANY type) and that includes phones with camera's
> built in. They check EVERY person to ensure they comply.
> Failure to comply will result in you being keep there (I'll let you work out
> the types of places from that).
>
> John..

Hello, John.

Ooops... Sorry, couldn't even imagine this situation. I understand
the "do not use" restriction, but "do not have"... Stupid limitation
IMHO. The same as castrating man before visiting any public place to
prevent him from public genitals showing.

Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.
Oxygen Software - tools for your Nokia.
Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your Nokia.
[email protected]
http://www.oxygensoftware.com
http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk

Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:
> Paul Hopwood skrev:
>
>
>>The Nokia 6310i is pretty much the de facto standard business phone.
>
>
> In Norway the 6610 (and now probably the 6610i) has started to take
> over as the 6310i is not available anymore (too bad really) :-(
>
I use a 6100 for business. I don't need bluetooth or a car kit. It's
small, rf sensitive, triband, loud audio, speaker if you need it and has
great battery life. And if you want to attach a camera or FM plugin you
can, but you don't have to.

Some people think the phone's too small, which I can understand, but I
find it perfect for my job.

Geoff

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:12:42 -0700, Oxygen Software wrote:

> "Nospam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> > Can you explain how the camera presence affects the business aspects
>> > of 6600? It's just a useful add-on allowing to implement the perfect
>> > idea of personal contact images. In my humble opinion the business
>> > phone should comply with these requirements:
>>
>> In some business's, such as the one I work in, we are NOT allowed on most
>> sites with a camera (of ANY type) and that includes phones with camera's
>> built in. They check EVERY person to ensure they comply.
>> Failure to comply will result in you being keep there (I'll let you work out
>> the types of places from that).
>>
>> John..
>
> Hello, John.
>
> Ooops... Sorry, couldn't even imagine this situation. I understand
> the "do not use" restriction, but "do not have"... Stupid limitation
> IMHO.

I have ... Especially establishments which are under the terms of the
"The Official Secrets Act" in the UK.

> The same as castrating man before visiting any public place to
> prevent him from public genitals showing.

LOL ... Except for the fact that you can't leave your genitals with
the security-guards, unlike a camera-phone.

> Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.
> Oxygen Software - tools for your Nokia. Oxygen Phone Manager II - all
> you want from your Nokia. [email protected]
> http://www.oxygensoftware.com
> http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk

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"Geoff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[snip]

> I use a 6100 for business. I don't need bluetooth or a car kit.

So you *never* need to make or receive calls while mobile..?

Ivor

michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Ooops... Sorry, couldn't even imagine this situation. I understand
> > the "do not use" restriction, but "do not have"... Stupid limitation
> > IMHO.
>
> I have ... Especially establishments which are under the terms of the
> "The Official Secrets Act" in the UK.

Hello, michael.

It seems all future Nokia (as well as other manufacturers) models
will have a camera. So I even don't know what to recommend you...
Maybe Nokia 6610? Another way is having two phones and periodical
synchronizing their content.

Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.
Oxygen Software - tools for your Nokia.
Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your Nokia.
[email protected]
http://www.oxygensoftware.com
http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:40:09 -0700, Oxygen Software wrote:

> michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> > Ooops... Sorry, couldn't even imagine this situation. I understand
>> > the "do not use" restriction, but "do not have"... Stupid limitation
>> > IMHO.
>>
>> I have ... Especially establishments which are under the terms of the
>> "The Official Secrets Act" in the UK.
>
> Hello, michael.
>
> It seems all future Nokia (as well as other manufacturers) models
> will have a camera. So I even don't know what to recommend you...

I'll just keep my 6310i going for as long a possible. After all a friend
of mine is still using an ancient Nokia 5110, he's perfectly happy with
it, and can still get batteries for it.

> Maybe Nokia 6610? Another way is having two phones and periodical
> synchronizing their content.

My content is just names, phone numbers, and one or two downloaded Java
games. :-))

> Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.

Best regards to you to Oleg.

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On 17 Jun 2004, Oxygen Software wrote
> michael turner <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...

>>> Ooops... Sorry, couldn't even imagine this situation. I
>>> understand the "do not use" restriction, but "do not have"...
>>> Stupid limitation IMHO.

>> I have ... Especially establishments which are under the terms of
>> the "The Official Secrets Act" in the UK.

> Hello, michael.

> It seems all future Nokia (as well as other manufacturers) models
> will have a camera.

Perhaps not, though: Sprint has released a camera-less version of the
Treo 600 precisely to address the "business-and-cameras" problem:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/09/treo_no_camera/

If that's successful it may prompt other manufacaturers to look at
doing something similar.

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