6680 - getting rid of Orange customisation & changing the Standby Scrn.

I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however
my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network.

The biggest issue I have is the "standby screen". I hate the Orange one
with all the links on the left, and with all the links to Orange World
etc. I can't find a way to customise it though. Does anyone know if
it's possible?

I've seen photos of the 6680 that is not Orange-ised and the standby
screen looks a whole lot better. Like this one:

http://my-symbian.com/7650/grafika4/6680r17.jpg

Is there a way I can change the Standby Screen in the settings? Or is
there some kind of mod? Is it possible to flash the phone entirely to
get rid off all the Orange stuff?

TIA - Please be nice, I am just a newbie!

Thanks!

Jonny

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"Paul Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however
> my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network.
>
> The biggest issue I have is the "standby screen". I hate the Orange one
> with all the links on the left, and with all the links to Orange World
> etc. I can't find a way to customise it though. Does anyone know if
> it's possible?
>
> I've seen photos of the 6680 that is not Orange-ised and the standby
> screen looks a whole lot better. Like this one:
>
> http://my-symbian.com/7650/grafika4/6680r17.jpg
>
> Is there a way I can change the Standby Screen in the settings? Or is
> there some kind of mod? Is it possible to flash the phone entirely to
> get rid off all the Orange stuff?
>
> TIA - Please be nice, I am just a newbie!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jonny
>

Just looking at the link to screen shot, to get that "look", simply change
to the "Nokia" theme.

Check your manual on how to change themes. The Nokia theme comes as
standard.

Customisation by networks is a pain in the butt, but I believe that the
flasher community haven't been able to work out how to do it yet... (judging
by some earlier 6680 related posts)

Even in the Nokia theme, there is still no option to change anything
about the Standby Screen in settings>phone.

I am furious with Orange for not even giving their customers the option
of changing it.

"meltey-chamon!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Paul Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however
>> my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network.
>>
>> The biggest issue I have is the "standby screen". I hate the Orange one
>> with all the links on the left, and with all the links to Orange World
>> etc. I can't find a way to customise it though. Does anyone know if
>> it's possible?
>>
>> I've seen photos of the 6680 that is not Orange-ised and the standby
>> screen looks a whole lot better. Like this one:
>>
>> http://my-symbian.com/7650/grafika4/6680r17.jpg
>>
>> Is there a way I can change the Standby Screen in the settings? Or is
>> there some kind of mod? Is it possible to flash the phone entirely to
>> get rid off all the Orange stuff?
>>
>> TIA - Please be nice, I am just a newbie!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jonny
>>
>
> Just looking at the link to screen shot, to get that "look", simply change
> to the "Nokia" theme.
>
> Check your manual on how to change themes. The Nokia theme comes as
> standard.
>
> Customisation by networks is a pain in the butt, but I believe that the
> flasher community haven't been able to work out how to do it yet...
> (judging
> by some earlier 6680 related posts)

The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked.

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To change the "Stanby Screen", go to menu - tools - settings - phone -stand
by mode, then you can alter it the way you want, or remove it...

The picture in the link are not from the standby screen, it's inside the
Connectivity folder...

"Paul Turner" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however
> my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network.
>
> The biggest issue I have is the "standby screen". I hate the Orange one
> with all the links on the left, and with all the links to Orange World
> etc. I can't find a way to customise it though. Does anyone know if
> it's possible?
>
> I've seen photos of the 6680 that is not Orange-ised and the standby
> screen looks a whole lot better. Like this one:
>
> http://my-symbian.com/7650/grafika4/6680r17.jpg
>
> Is there a way I can change the Standby Screen in the settings? Or is
> there some kind of mod? Is it possible to flash the phone entirely to
> get rid off all the Orange stuff?
>
> TIA - Please be nice, I am just a newbie!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jonny
>

>To change the "Stanby Screen", go to menu - tools - settings - phone -stand
by mode, then you can alter it the way you want, or remove it...

nope - Like I said in my prev post - Orange have removed that function.
Sure, you can goto tools, settings, phone, stanby mode - but you only
get the options to redefine the keys when in standy mode.

I've checked a million times. It's totally not there. I've worked out
the normal standby screen IS there, however they've removed the option
to cutomise/active it, and ADDED an Orange screen as almost like a
second standby screen that it goes to when hanging up etc. The only way
I can get to the original (proper) standby screen is by holding down
the bottom left key to view all running apps (like shift-tab in
windows) and then selecting "Telephone". But it's pretty pointless
becuase firstly I can't customise it, and secondly as soon as I end a
call etc it goes back to the Orange screen.

>The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked.

fine by me - I like Orange as a network, but not all the Orange crap
they impose on me. It's almost like spyware/adware comes preinstalled.

How do I go about flashing the thing?

"Paul Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked.
>
> fine by me - I like Orange as a network, but not all the Orange crap
> they impose on me. It's almost like spyware/adware comes preinstalled.

I couldn't agree more. If one thing puts me off a phone more than anything
else, it's the bastardisation that some of the networks foist upon the end
user.

> How do I go about flashing the thing?

At the moment, the only reliable flasher that supports BB5 handsets is JAF
(have a look at the GSM-Solutions link in my sig) which is probably a tad
expensive if you're only wanting to flash the one phone. Alternatively you
could try to get an official service centre to do it (but they're not
supposed to unbrand handsets, and won't be able to at all before too long)
or we'll be adding it to ThePhonelocker pretty soon as well.

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"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
<snip>
> >
> > Customisation by networks is a pain in the butt, but I believe that the
> > flasher community haven't been able to work out how to do it yet...
> > (judging
> > by some earlier 6680 related posts)
>
> The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked.
>

(Thanks)

Have you known Nokia shops to flash them in the store? What sort of
thing should I ask for to get this service?? ;-)

"Paul Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Have you known Nokia shops to flash them in the store?

Yes, but they're only supposed to upgrade the firmware, not unbrand it.
Systems are being put into place by Nokia to prevent official service
centres unofficially flashing different PPM packs than what the phone was
originally provided with.

> What sort of
> thing should I ask for to get this service?? ;-)

If it's just a firmware upgrade you're after, just tell them that the phone
seems unstable and reboots randomly. If you're after them debranding it,
you'll just have to be cheeky and ask them outright (most will refuse).

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I just made a call - pretty much sorted for next week.

Now my concern is this:.. If it's unbranded, will I be use the Orange
TV application still? Or will it think I am not an Orange customer any
more and not work?

I've installed the app on my memory card, so downloading it again is
not an issue.

As is probably obvious, all the operators tweak the software to constantly
remind you of their brand. It's just the price you pay for a subsidised
handset. Think of free email with advertising, paid email without.

The alternative is to buy a 6680 SIM free for about £400, then (a) you've
got choice of operator, (b) you can probably cut a better tariff deal if
there's no handset upgrade, (b) the phone will probably be more stable and
(3) you can get a half decent price on eBay when you get bored.

"Paul Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >To change the "Stanby Screen", go to menu - tools - settings -
> >phone -stand
> by mode, then you can alter it the way you want, or remove it...
>
> nope - Like I said in my prev post - Orange have removed that function.
> Sure, you can goto tools, settings, phone, stanby mode - but you only
> get the options to redefine the keys when in standy mode.
>
> I've checked a million times. It's totally not there. I've worked out
> the normal standby screen IS there, however they've removed the option
> to cutomise/active it, and ADDED an Orange screen as almost like a
> second standby screen that it goes to when hanging up etc. The only way
> I can get to the original (proper) standby screen is by holding down
> the bottom left key to view all running apps (like shift-tab in
> windows) and then selecting "Telephone". But it's pretty pointless
> becuase firstly I can't customise it, and secondly as soon as I end a
> call etc it goes back to the Orange screen.
>

Paul Turner wrote:

> I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however
> my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network.


Well you'll know not to use Orange again! It does make me wondor what
monkey is in charge up their, stuff like this only makes people hate the
brand.

"Generally they have Phoenix set up so that it reads the product code
and
reloads the configuration demanded by that. So you get all the branding

and the SP lock will be reinstated if it has been removed (although as
the 6680 is BB5 you won't have been able to remove it yourself anyway"


sorry to be dense, im not up on this stuff - does this mean that the
place I found that will flash my phone will simply flash it with the
orange configuration again?!