N95 ?

Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?

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.....been watching.

> Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?

Is that the GPS one that will not be approved by the FCC in the U.S.?

Per the fine print beneath the phone on the NokiaUSA website: "The Nokia N95
Device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal
Communications Commission ("FCC")."

I don't know what that implies, but I've been waiting for the N93 and
Cingular says "No! It won't work on all bands of their network." Some
800-850mHz band difference although it "supposedly" will work on another
band, but they said "Might not work where you want it to."

Rats!

B~

"B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:P%[email protected]...
>> Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?
>
> Is that the GPS one that will not be approved by the FCC in the U.S.?
>
> Per the fine print beneath the phone on the NokiaUSA website: "The Nokia
> N95 Device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal
> Communications Commission ("FCC")."
>
> I don't know what that implies, but I've been waiting for the N93 and
> Cingular says "No! It won't work on all bands of their network." Some
> 800-850mHz band difference although it "supposedly" will work on another
> band, but they said "Might not work where you want it to."
>
> Rats!
>
> B~

If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek out a
source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if it was
flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.

"Ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:2%[email protected]...
>
> "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:P%[email protected]...
>>> Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?
>>
>> Is that the GPS one that will not be approved by the FCC in the U.S.?
>>
>> Per the fine print beneath the phone on the NokiaUSA website: "The Nokia
>> N95 Device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the
>> Federal Communications Commission ("FCC")."
>>
>> I don't know what that implies, but I've been waiting for the N93 and
>> Cingular says "No! It won't work on all bands of their network." Some
>> 800-850mHz band difference although it "supposedly" will work on another
>> band, but they said "Might not work where you want it to."
>>
>> Rats!
>>
>> B~
>
> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek out
> a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if it
> was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.
>
N95 would be a quad band GSM EDGE phone and certainly would work fine in any
of the US GSM networks. N95 also supports 2.1 GHz UMTS which is useless in
the US.

GPS would of course work in the US, this Nokia statement is a bit cryptic
though. Perhaps they mean that the A-GPS positioning has not been approved
at an appropriate US type approval body for E911 purposes (which would not
mean it does not fulfil those requirements) or then Cingular does not
support A-GPS.

> "Ric" wrote:
> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek out
> a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if it
> was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.

What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones when the
Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever since their
N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones (N93, N95,etc.). Seems
they aren't being too smart in their U.S. marketing, or are trying to force
Cingular into the 900 band (like that would happen!). The Cingular sales
rep said good luck and that was about it. He said they will not carry all
the Nokia phones (new models?) and only phones that will give the "best"
service on their network.

So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on their
sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some connectivity
channels.

Just too weird!

B~

"B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> "Ric" wrote:
>> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek
>> out a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if
>> it was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.
>
> What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones when
> the Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever since
> their N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones (N93,
> N95,etc.). Seems they aren't being too smart in their U.S. marketing, or
> are trying to force Cingular into the 900 band (like that would happen!).
> The Cingular sales rep said good luck and that was about it. He said they
> will not carry all the Nokia phones (new models?) and only phones that
> will give the "best" service on their network.
>
> So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on
> their sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some
> connectivity channels.
>
> Just too weird!
>
> B~
>
The lack of 850 comes from the fact that those phones are intended to Europe
(and almost the rest of the world, excluding the US, Canada, some
South-American markets etc.). The N-series capabilities do not get fully
exploited on operator branded (crippled) models. N-series phones come from
the multimedia division of Nokia and they sell only a limited amount of
phones directly to operators, I assume because they don't want to accept all
the restrictions that operator branding introduces. Nokia certainly has a
number of 850-capable phones too, this normally means support for 850 and
1900 or triple band 850/1800/1900 support.

US-operators are stronger than anyone else controlling their handset
population. Also the US sales of GSM phones is relatively low in numbers, if
the market was not politically as important as it is, you wouldn't see even
this many phone models (or then the prices would go high and you would see
even more to choose from).

This claim that "you may lose some connectivity channels" was interesting, I
cannot figure out what this could mean, can you explain more? Normally it
would be the opposite, here I mean restricted phone features and network
services (allowed/supported access points etc.).

"Me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Ric" wrote:
>>> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek
>>> out a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP
>>> camera...if it was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my
>>> needs.
>>
>> What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones when
>> the Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever
>> since their N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones (N93,
>> N95,etc.). Seems they aren't being too smart in their U.S. marketing, or
>> are trying to force Cingular into the 900 band (like that would happen!).
>> The Cingular sales rep said good luck and that was about it. He said
>> they will not carry all the Nokia phones (new models?) and only phones
>> that will give the "best" service on their network.
>>
>> So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on
>> their sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some
>> connectivity channels.
>>
>> Just too weird!
>>
>> B~
>>
> The lack of 850 comes from the fact that those phones are intended to
> Europe (and almost the rest of the world, excluding the US, Canada, some
> South-American markets etc.). The N-series capabilities do not get fully
> exploited on operator branded (crippled) models. N-series phones come from
> the multimedia division of Nokia and they sell only a limited amount of
> phones directly to operators, I assume because they don't want to accept
> all the restrictions that operator branding introduces. Nokia certainly
> has a number of 850-capable phones too, this normally means support for
> 850 and 1900 or triple band 850/1800/1900 support.
>
> US-operators are stronger than anyone else controlling their handset
> population. Also the US sales of GSM phones is relatively low in numbers,
> if the market was not politically as important as it is, you wouldn't see
> even this many phone models (or then the prices would go high and you
> would see even more to choose from).
>
> This claim that "you may lose some connectivity channels" was interesting,
> I cannot figure out what this could mean, can you explain more? Normally
> it would be the opposite, here I mean restricted phone features and
> network services (allowed/supported access points etc.).

I would almost prefer to buy an unbranded, unlocked phone even though it
would cost a lot more without the provider subsidy. I'm sick and tired of
phones with crippled capabilities the providers want to prevent you from
using.
>
>

Why TF did Cingular opt for 850 instead of 900 in the first place ?
America took up cellphones long after Europe, so why not set up on the same
900 and 1800 freq.s ?
There has to be a reason .... doesn't there ?

B. Peg wrote:
>> "Ric" wrote:
>> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll
>> seek out a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP
>> camera...if it was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my
>> needs.
>
> What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones
> when the Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever
> since their N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones
> (N93, N95,etc.). Seems they aren't being too smart in their U.S.
> marketing, or are trying to force Cingular into the 900 band (like
> that would happen!). The Cingular sales rep said good luck and that
> was about it. He said they will not carry all the Nokia phones (new
> models?) and only phones that will give the "best" service on their
> network.
> So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on
> their sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some
> connectivity channels.
>
> Just too weird!
>
> B~

For example: John Smith wrote:
> Why TF did Cingular opt for 850 instead of 900 in the first place ?
> America took up cellphones long after Europe, so why not set up on the same
> 900 and 1800 freq.s ?
> There has to be a reason .... doesn't there ?
>

Because the freq used elsewhere are already in use in the US (I believe
for military purposes)

The US didn't take up cellular phones after europe, they took up gsm later
then europe, much later. Big difference.

And btw the N75 does support the 850 frequency and is going to be sold by
Cingular, still won't hold my breath when they do actually get it.