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Old 08-31-2007, 06:25 AM   #1
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New To N95...GPS Question


Sorry if this subject has been addressed before, but I'm considering the new
3G N95. Could someone please suggest which mapping software is best for this
phone. I'll be using it in the northeast U.S. and, ideally, would like
verbal, turn-by-turn directions to substitute for my in-dash car unit.




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Old 08-31-2007, 02:22 PM   #2
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Re: New To N95...GPS Question


On Aug 31, 9:25 pm, "Ric" <N...@Way.com> wrote:
> Sorry if this subject has been addressed before, but I'm considering the new
> 3G N95. Could someone please suggest which mapping software is best for this
> phone. I'll be using it in the northeast U.S. and, ideally, would like
> verbal, turn-by-turn directions to substitute for my in-dash car unit.


If you want the N95 mainly for its GPS the short answer is not to
buy. The GPS is very slow compared with what you probably already
have in your in-dash unit, and most third party mapping s/w does not
work with it. You need to purchase from Nokia their own stuff (there
may be exceptions to this rule but I don't think there is one that
covers NE USA tho another member may be able to confirm or deny that).
The N95 GPS will work in a car so long as you can set it up to sit on
dashboard with keyboard open (as GPS hidden under keyboard and has
problems if unit closed up) and don't do too much work in heavily
built-up areas (as needs almost direct line of sight to satellites
unlike more modern systems). Be aware that it also affected by cloud
cover! The GPS is a nice add-on for walkers who want the other
features of the phone. See countless articles in many of the symbian
sites as well as here. If you do buy N95 make sure get latest firmware
as 1.10 the slowest of the lot.

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Old 08-31-2007, 03:44 PM   #3
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Re: New To N95...GPS Question



"mrripcurl" <mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1188588134.445815.4600@i38g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Aug 31, 9:25 pm, "Ric" <N...@Way.com> wrote:
>> Sorry if this subject has been addressed before, but I'm considering the
>> new
>> 3G N95. Could someone please suggest which mapping software is best for
>> this
>> phone. I'll be using it in the northeast U.S. and, ideally, would like
>> verbal, turn-by-turn directions to substitute for my in-dash car unit.

>
> If you want the N95 mainly for its GPS the short answer is not to
> buy. The GPS is very slow compared with what you probably already
> have in your in-dash unit, and most third party mapping s/w does not
> work with it. You need to purchase from Nokia their own stuff (there
> may be exceptions to this rule but I don't think there is one that
> covers NE USA tho another member may be able to confirm or deny that).
> The N95 GPS will work in a car so long as you can set it up to sit on
> dashboard with keyboard open (as GPS hidden under keyboard and has
> problems if unit closed up) and don't do too much work in heavily
> built-up areas (as needs almost direct line of sight to satellites
> unlike more modern systems). Be aware that it also affected by cloud
> cover! The GPS is a nice add-on for walkers who want the other
> features of the phone. See countless articles in many of the symbian
> sites as well as here. If you do buy N95 make sure get latest firmware
> as 1.10 the slowest of the lot.


Thanks for all the information. My current vehicle is soon to be traded in
and I wanted something to avoid another $1500 to $2000 optional nav system.
It would also be handy for getting around on foot, but you seem to be
indicating that it wouldn't work well in areas like New York City. What
about A-GPS ?
>



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Old 08-31-2007, 05:03 PM   #4
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In article <1188588134.445815.4600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.c om>,
mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au says...
> On Aug 31, 9:25 pm, "Ric" <N...@Way.com> wrote:
> > Sorry if this subject has been addressed before, but I'm considering the new
> > 3G N95. Could someone please suggest which mapping software is best for this
> > phone. I'll be using it in the northeast U.S. and, ideally, would like
> > verbal, turn-by-turn directions to substitute for my in-dash car unit.

>
> If you want the N95 mainly for its GPS the short answer is not to
> buy. The GPS is very slow compared with what you probably already
> have in your in-dash unit, and most third party mapping s/w does not
> work with it. You need to purchase from Nokia their own stuff (there
> may be exceptions to this rule but I don't think there is one that
> covers NE USA tho another member may be able to confirm or deny that).
> The N95 GPS will work in a car so long as you can set it up to sit on
> dashboard with keyboard open (as GPS hidden under keyboard and has
> problems if unit closed up) and don't do too much work in heavily
> built-up areas (as needs almost direct line of sight to satellites
> unlike more modern systems). Be aware that it also affected by cloud
> cover! The GPS is a nice add-on for walkers who want the other
> features of the phone. See countless articles in many of the symbian
> sites as well as here. If you do buy N95 make sure get latest firmware
> as 1.10 the slowest of the lot.
>
>


OK - allow me to correct a couple of things in here.

The GPS certainly WAS slow - useless in fact. But the latest firmware
update (v12.xxx) has made a HUGE difference. My N95 used to take 10
minutes or more to lock on - now it take between 12 and 17 seconds.
Suddenly, it has become useful.

The maps are excellent - they are downloaded from Nokia using
"Maploader" software from their website, and cover almost everywhere on
the planet. Yes - that DOES include ALL of the USA. Just been over
there from here in Australia, and had my N95 working in NYC perfectly.
And all the maps are free. Buy a dedicated GPS unit like a TomTom, and
you'l pay several hundred dollars extra for maps of countries other than
the one in which you bought the unit. The N95 maps cost nothing, and I
spent about an hour in total downloading to the PC then uploading to the
phone the maps for a round the world trip we've just done.

Voice commands - if you really need them - are purchased through the
phone. I used them in London with the rented car I was driving, and I
purchased 1 week's worth of voice guidance for about $7 which was added
to my phone bill. So I didn't need voice guidance in other cities we
visited on the round the world trip, including Florence, Budapest,
Luxembourg, Quebec, Calgary, Vancouver and others, since we did most of
our exploring on foot and public transport. You don't need voice
guidance for that - just look at the phone, and now with the fast lock-
on, turn the phone's GPS off between checkpoints. It only takes a few
seconds to lock on again when turned back on. So you only pay for the
voice guidance you need - which generally is not much.

Bottom line - I got rid of a Navman GPS unit and bought the N95, but
initially was very disappointed in it due mainly to the ridiculously
long lock on times. The new firmware has reversed that, and I now do
not need anything else. We're heading off back overseas in 2 weeks, and
the N95 is the only GPS I will take.

Highly recommended - but make sure it has the latest firmware. If it
doesn't, it is available using the phone updater software from the Nokia
website.

Hope that helps

--

NightStalker
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:52 PM   #5
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"NightStalker" <Nightstalker@somewhere.or.other> wrote in message
news:MPG.21432d1e201cc35398985c@news-europe.giganews.com...
> In article <1188588134.445815.4600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.c om>,
> mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au says...
>> On Aug 31, 9:25 pm, "Ric" <N...@Way.com> wrote:
>> > Sorry if this subject has been addressed before, but I'm considering
>> > the new
>> > 3G N95. Could someone please suggest which mapping software is best for
>> > this
>> > phone. I'll be using it in the northeast U.S. and, ideally, would like
>> > verbal, turn-by-turn directions to substitute for my in-dash car unit.

>>
>> If you want the N95 mainly for its GPS the short answer is not to
>> buy. The GPS is very slow compared with what you probably already
>> have in your in-dash unit, and most third party mapping s/w does not
>> work with it. You need to purchase from Nokia their own stuff (there
>> may be exceptions to this rule but I don't think there is one that
>> covers NE USA tho another member may be able to confirm or deny that).
>> The N95 GPS will work in a car so long as you can set it up to sit on
>> dashboard with keyboard open (as GPS hidden under keyboard and has
>> problems if unit closed up) and don't do too much work in heavily
>> built-up areas (as needs almost direct line of sight to satellites
>> unlike more modern systems). Be aware that it also affected by cloud
>> cover! The GPS is a nice add-on for walkers who want the other
>> features of the phone. See countless articles in many of the symbian
>> sites as well as here. If you do buy N95 make sure get latest firmware
>> as 1.10 the slowest of the lot.
>>
>>

>
> OK - allow me to correct a couple of things in here.
>
> The GPS certainly WAS slow - useless in fact. But the latest firmware
> update (v12.xxx) has made a HUGE difference. My N95 used to take 10
> minutes or more to lock on - now it take between 12 and 17 seconds.
> Suddenly, it has become useful.
>
> The maps are excellent - they are downloaded from Nokia using
> "Maploader" software from their website, and cover almost everywhere on
> the planet. Yes - that DOES include ALL of the USA. Just been over
> there from here in Australia, and had my N95 working in NYC perfectly.
> And all the maps are free. Buy a dedicated GPS unit like a TomTom, and
> you'l pay several hundred dollars extra for maps of countries other than
> the one in which you bought the unit. The N95 maps cost nothing, and I
> spent about an hour in total downloading to the PC then uploading to the
> phone the maps for a round the world trip we've just done.
>
> Voice commands - if you really need them - are purchased through the
> phone. I used them in London with the rented car I was driving, and I
> purchased 1 week's worth of voice guidance for about $7 which was added
> to my phone bill. So I didn't need voice guidance in other cities we
> visited on the round the world trip, including Florence, Budapest,
> Luxembourg, Quebec, Calgary, Vancouver and others, since we did most of
> our exploring on foot and public transport. You don't need voice
> guidance for that - just look at the phone, and now with the fast lock-
> on, turn the phone's GPS off between checkpoints. It only takes a few
> seconds to lock on again when turned back on. So you only pay for the
> voice guidance you need - which generally is not much.
>
> Bottom line - I got rid of a Navman GPS unit and bought the N95, but
> initially was very disappointed in it due mainly to the ridiculously
> long lock on times. The new firmware has reversed that, and I now do
> not need anything else. We're heading off back overseas in 2 weeks, and
> the N95 is the only GPS I will take.
>
> Highly recommended - but make sure it has the latest firmware. If it
> doesn't, it is available using the phone updater software from the Nokia
> website.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> --
>
> NightStalker


Thanks for this...it's very useful information. I had read about the update
and the improvement it makes on the GPS lock. And a newer version of the
phone is available soon here with 3G data connectivity, so it looks like it
might actually be a go.


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Old 08-31-2007, 07:38 PM   #6
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"NightStalker" <Nightstalker@somewhere.or.other> wrote in message
news:MPG.21432d1e201cc35398985c@news-europe.giganews.com...
> In article <1188588134.445815.4600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.c om>,
> mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au says...
>> On Aug 31, 9:25 pm, "Ric" <N...@Way.com> wrote:
>> > Sorry if this subject has been addressed before, but I'm considering
>> > the new
>> > 3G N95. Could someone please suggest which mapping software is best for
>> > this
>> > phone. I'll be using it in the northeast U.S. and, ideally, would like
>> > verbal, turn-by-turn directions to substitute for my in-dash car unit.

>>
>> If you want the N95 mainly for its GPS the short answer is not to
>> buy. The GPS is very slow compared with what you probably already
>> have in your in-dash unit, and most third party mapping s/w does not
>> work with it. You need to purchase from Nokia their own stuff (there
>> may be exceptions to this rule but I don't think there is one that
>> covers NE USA tho another member may be able to confirm or deny that).
>> The N95 GPS will work in a car so long as you can set it up to sit on
>> dashboard with keyboard open (as GPS hidden under keyboard and has
>> problems if unit closed up) and don't do too much work in heavily
>> built-up areas (as needs almost direct line of sight to satellites
>> unlike more modern systems). Be aware that it also affected by cloud
>> cover! The GPS is a nice add-on for walkers who want the other
>> features of the phone. See countless articles in many of the symbian
>> sites as well as here. If you do buy N95 make sure get latest firmware
>> as 1.10 the slowest of the lot.
>>
>>

>
> OK - allow me to correct a couple of things in here.
>
> The GPS certainly WAS slow - useless in fact. But the latest firmware
> update (v12.xxx) has made a HUGE difference. My N95 used to take 10
> minutes or more to lock on - now it take between 12 and 17 seconds.
> Suddenly, it has become useful.
>
> The maps are excellent - they are downloaded from Nokia using
> "Maploader" software from their website, and cover almost everywhere on
> the planet. Yes - that DOES include ALL of the USA. Just been over
> there from here in Australia, and had my N95 working in NYC perfectly.
> And all the maps are free. Buy a dedicated GPS unit like a TomTom, and
> you'l pay several hundred dollars extra for maps of countries other than
> the one in which you bought the unit. The N95 maps cost nothing, and I
> spent about an hour in total downloading to the PC then uploading to the
> phone the maps for a round the world trip we've just done.
>
> Voice commands - if you really need them - are purchased through the
> phone. I used them in London with the rented car I was driving, and I
> purchased 1 week's worth of voice guidance for about $7 which was added
> to my phone bill. So I didn't need voice guidance in other cities we
> visited on the round the world trip, including Florence, Budapest,
> Luxembourg, Quebec, Calgary, Vancouver and others, since we did most of
> our exploring on foot and public transport. You don't need voice
> guidance for that - just look at the phone, and now with the fast lock-
> on, turn the phone's GPS off between checkpoints. It only takes a few
> seconds to lock on again when turned back on. So you only pay for the
> voice guidance you need - which generally is not much.
>
> Bottom line - I got rid of a Navman GPS unit and bought the N95, but
> initially was very disappointed in it due mainly to the ridiculously
> long lock on times. The new firmware has reversed that, and I now do
> not need anything else. We're heading off back overseas in 2 weeks, and
> the N95 is the only GPS I will take.
>
> Highly recommended - but make sure it has the latest firmware. If it
> doesn't, it is available using the phone updater software from the Nokia
> website.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> --
>
> NightStalker


Been having a look around Nokias US website. Doesn't look like Maploader is
available. In fact, I'm having trouble finding any map downloads.


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Old 09-01-2007, 07:14 AM   #7
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> Been having a look around Nokias US website. Doesn't look like Maploader
> is available. In fact, I'm having trouble finding any map downloads.
>

Would be better to browse European Nokia pages, the US phone list did not
even have N95.

A bit simpler here:
http://www.smart2go.com/


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Old 09-01-2007, 01:26 PM   #8
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> >
>> Been having a look around Nokias US website. Doesn't look like Maploader
>> is available. In fact, I'm having trouble finding any map downloads.
>>

> Would be better to browse European Nokia pages, the US phone list did not
> even have N95.
>
> A bit simpler here:
> http://www.smart2go.com/
>



Thank You!


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Old 09-01-2007, 02:45 PM   #9
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On Sep 1, 8:03 am, NightStalker <Nightstal...@somewhere.or.other>
wrote:
> In article <1188588134.445815.4...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.c om>,
> mrripc...@yahoo.com.au says...
>


Interesting Mr Nightstalker and thanks for that update. My 1.12
firmware is faster than 1.10 but still a pig in Sydney (gone from 10
mins to 3 mins but nowhere near 12 secs) and there are almost as many
black spots as there are good spots! Sounds like yet another trip to
Nokia Care Centre for me! [I hate Windoze and so do not have a
computer that runs Nok PC Suite preferring Linux which does everything
except load Nok s/w! - That's why I bought a Symbian phone rather than
a Winphone]

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