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"Mr. Strat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That must be why people who owned a Mac had to keep it behind an external
>> firewall for 10 long months between the Month Of Apple Bugs and the
>> release of 10.4.11.
>
> That month of alleged bugs was pure bull****. Name one OS X virus or
> spyware in the wild.


http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/ne...acosxleap.html

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<[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> mainly mac cities have open wireless pretty much everywhere since you
> can't break into macs / osx.
>

So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live not
far from Cupertino.

Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere." Could
you give an example of such a place?

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Oxford wrote:
> Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There's certainly lots of Wi-Fi in Seattle, but these days most networks
>> are locked down by a combination of MAC address filtering, WPA (nobody
>> uses WEP any more) and SSID broadcast disable.
>
> but that's mainly a result that windows machines / the OS is so poorly
> designed

So basically you are saying that if I had a Mac, I wouldn't need
wireless encryption for my ASCII text files (that are not OS specific, BTW).

In article <ZEa%[email protected]>, Kevin
Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:

> > That month of alleged bugs was pure bull****. Name one OS X virus or
> > spyware in the wild.
>
>
> http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/ne...acosxleap.html

Viruses created in the laboratory or on paper by companies selling
anti-virus software doesn't count. *IN THE WILD*

Oh, and that article is over a year old. Nice try, but no cigar.

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> seattle is the detroit of computer tech, crime ridden, and full of
> people that can only build shoddy products. (Vista, Office, Exchange,
> Xbox, Zune, etc, etc)
>
> no wonder Mark doesn't understand wireless, or where the industry is
> heading. he lives in the "detroit" of computing.
>
> -

And the IDIOT Oxford digs his stupid hole deeper and deeper.

THE most moronic statement yet...

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> grow up LHA, qwest supports my views, not yours. deal with it.
>

Uhhhhhhh, not they don't, (Qwest).

Ness Net <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > seattle is the detroit of computer tech, crime ridden, and full of
> > people that can only build shoddy products. (Vista, Office, Exchange,
> > Xbox, Zune, etc, etc)
> >
> > no wonder Mark doesn't understand wireless, or where the industry is
> > heading. he lives in the "detroit" of computing.
> >
> > -
>
> And the IDIOT Oxford digs his stupid hole deeper and deeper.
>
> THE most moronic statement yet...

He's just yanking your chain, to coin a phrase...

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

"Mr. Strat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:161120070947097656%[email protected]...
> In article <ZEa%[email protected]>, Kevin
> Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > That month of alleged bugs was pure bull****. Name one OS X virus or
>> > spyware in the wild.
>>
>>
>> http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/ne...acosxleap.html
>
> Viruses created in the laboratory or on paper by companies selling
> anti-virus software doesn't count. *IN THE WILD*
>
> Oh, and that article is over a year old. Nice try, but no cigar.



WTF Does it matter how old the virus is ? You said show one virus, I did.

In article <oon%[email protected]>, Kevin
Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:

> WTF Does it matter how old the virus is ? You said show one virus, I did.

No, you showed me something created by a company that sells anti-virus
solutions...not something in the wild. Since OS X was released in the
spring of 2001, there have been *NO* viruses or spyware in the wild.
And it has nothing to do with market share and everything to do with
the design of the OS.

David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:

> So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live not
> far from Cupertino.

austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...

> Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere." Could
> you give an example of such a place?

austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...

Oxford wrote:
> David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live not
>> far from Cupertino.
>
> austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...
>
>> Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere." Could
>> you give an example of such a place?
>
> austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...
Austin isn't.

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On 2007-11-17, Jon <[email protected]> wrote:


>> austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...

> Austin isn't.

I love that he gave Dell's corporate home as the first example.

(Actually, Dell is just outside Austin, in Round Rock.)

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Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:linuxlovesosx-
[email protected]:

> David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live not
>> far from Cupertino.
>
> austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...


Sorry, stupid- I travel frequently to Boulder- it's not a primarily mac
city. PC's outnumber macs by about 4 to 1.

>
>> Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere." Could
>> you give an example of such a place?
>
> austin, boulder, portland, santa fe are to name a few...
>


Boulder has wifi on campus, but it is not open.

David Friedman wrote:

> So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live not
> far from Cupertino.
>
> Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere." Could
> you give an example of such a place?

Actually Cupertino, Mountain View, and Sunnyvale have it pretty much
everywhere via Google or MetroFi, but you usually need a high power
802.11 card or USB adapter in many areas in order to access it, and of
course there is no handoff, and the MetroFi network is agonizingly slow
(though faster than EDGE). You couldn't use it with an iPhone in most
places, but a notebook PC with high-power CardBus card can access it
(MetroFi routinely shows up as an open network for me).

As to Mac cities, I was surprised at just how few Macs are in use in
Cupertino. When I was in city hall last year I commented to one of the
employees about this, and they said that they had really wanted to use
Macs, but that their corporate and specialized software applications
didn't run on OS-X. I reminded them that they could now run Windows on a
Mac, which they of course were already aware of. I think that they
should have switched to Macs just out of courtesy to the biggest private
employer in town; the extra cost of the Mac hardware, and a copy of
Windows for each machine, would not be all that much.

I love Apple for their political stand in local issues, as they are very
much against taking all available land and rezoning it to allow
high-density condominiums, as the evil-doer developers want to do. Their
spokesperson addressed this issue at a city council meeting in 2006, and
his statements were instrumental in helping defeat the plans of two
developers, and the city council members that the developers own.

From the published ballot arguments:

"We want to stay in Cupertino; we just want to make sure
there's space here for us to grow .... Once [land] turns to
housing, that's the end of the road." - Michael Foulkes,
Apple Spokesperson

Vote NO - High-Tech Companies like Apple Need Room to Grow.

* Once industrial land is rezoned and condos built, the
potential for business growth is lost. Business and
industry provide core jobs and tax revenue for our
city.

* Apple and other companies have requested that
Cupertino stop rezoning industrial land.

* KEEP JOBS IN CUPERTINO!

In article <[email protected]>,
SMS éz‰⁄ï∂• ⃠<[email protected]> wrote:

Interesting comments on WiFi in Silicon Valley snipped; next time I'm in
Mountain view or Cupertino I'll see if my MacBook can see an open
network)

> I love Apple for their political stand in local issues, as they are very
> much against taking all available land and rezoning it to allow
> high-density condominiums, as the evil-doer developers want to do. Their
> spokesperson addressed this issue at a city council meeting in 2006, and
> his statements were instrumental in helping defeat the plans of two
> developers, and the city council members that the developers own.
>
> From the published ballot arguments:
>
> "We want to stay in Cupertino; we just want to make sure
> there's space here for us to grow .... Once [land] turns to
> housing, that's the end of the road." - Michael Foulkes,
> Apple Spokesperson

You love Apple because they want the city to make it illegal for private
developers to bid against them for land they want to use for office
space? Do you also think they should get the state to make it illegal
for other firms to try to hire away their employees, or bid against them
for RAM and CPU chips, or ... ?

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Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
Published by Baen, in bookstores now