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  1. #16
    R. Mark Clayton
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    Re: Nokia on long comeback trail after smartphone misses


    "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:56:32 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >



    >>it appears that the on / off switch exerts a hard reset after 8 seconds.

    >
    > Those resets that tell you to hold down a button for a certain period
    > of time are not really true hardware resets because they require some
    > processing power to work. If the phone has well and truly locked up
    > then they won't work if the firmware in the phone has completely
    > stopped running.
    >
    > Chris


    A short period no, but if the switch is also connected to a watchdog chip
    then it will. 8s is a lot longer than usual for this sort of thing.





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  2. #17
    Greg N.
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    Re: Nokia on long comeback trail after smartphone misses

    Chris Blunt wrote:

    > You can still replace the battery, but it involves
    > removing a few screws and dismantling the case.
    >
    > I'm sure many people will dislike that...


    Absolutely. It's an absolute no-go for me.

    Hasn't anybody seen those dirt cheap chargers for nokia batteries?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Charger-...3?cmd=ViewItem

    Ever since I've got one of those I always carry a fully charged spare
    battery with me. Whenever my phone runs dry on the road I pop in the
    spare battery. When required, I charge the spare in the offline charger
    over night. My phone never needs to be connected to the charger any more.

    Phone power management has become a non-issue for me.

    And now Nokia thinks a difficult to swap battery is smart idea. Sheesh.

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  3. #18
    Chris Blunt
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    Re: Nokia on long comeback trail after smartphone misses

    On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:07:18 +0200, "Greg N." <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Chris Blunt wrote:
    >
    >> You can still replace the battery, but it involves
    >> removing a few screws and dismantling the case.
    >>
    >> I'm sure many people will dislike that...

    >
    >Absolutely. It's an absolute no-go for me.
    >
    >Hasn't anybody seen those dirt cheap chargers for nokia batteries?
    >http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Charger-...3?cmd=ViewItem
    >
    >Ever since I've got one of those I always carry a fully charged spare
    >battery with me. Whenever my phone runs dry on the road I pop in the
    >spare battery. When required, I charge the spare in the offline charger
    >over night. My phone never needs to be connected to the charger any more.
    >
    >Phone power management has become a non-issue for me.
    >
    >And now Nokia thinks a difficult to swap battery is smart idea. Sheesh.


    I can see this will be a problem for people who make heavy use of
    their phones, especially those like you who are out and about a lot.

    Where I live, most people use their phones for text messaging rather
    than calling. I normally keep my phone connected to the computer for
    most of the day to send and received texts using Nokia Communication
    Manager. One side-benefit of having it connected to the computer is
    that it's continually charging through the USB port, so I seldom need
    to use a charger.

    Phone power management has become a non-issue for me too, but in my
    case I never need to change the battery.

    Chris



  4. #19
    R. Mark Clayton
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    Re: Nokia on long comeback trail after smartphone misses


    "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:07:18 +0200, "Greg N." <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Chris Blunt wrote:
    >>

    SNIP
    >>
    >>Phone power management has become a non-issue for me.
    >>
    >>And now Nokia thinks a difficult to swap battery is smart idea. Sheesh.

    >
    > I can see this will be a problem for people who make heavy use of
    > their phones, especially those like you who are out and about a lot.
    >
    > Where I live, most people use their phones for text messaging rather
    > than calling. I normally keep my phone connected to the computer for
    > most of the day to send and received texts using Nokia Communication
    > Manager. One side-benefit of having it connected to the computer is
    > that it's continually charging through the USB port, so I seldom need
    > to use a charger.
    >
    > Phone power management has become a non-issue for me too, but in my
    > case I never need to change the battery.
    >
    > Chris


    I currently have an N79. This normally does OK, but do a reasonable amount
    of GPS, wi-fi, surfing and talking (especially in areas of poor coverage)
    and it can run down in around 18 hours and be grumbling about "battery low"
    by bed time.

    This appears comparable to the N97.

    OTOH I expect the N8 to be comparable to the N97 Mini, which manages much
    longer (despite what the Spec' says).





  5. #20
    LeeRain
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    Re: Nokia on long comeback trail after smartphone misses


    How do you know it hasn`t quirks too?+

    I don't - but I do know that the user will be able to change the
    battery!




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    LeeRain



  6. #21
    R. Mark Clayton
    Guest

    Re: Nokia on long comeback trail after smartphone misses


    "LeeRain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > How do you know it hasn`t quirks too?+
    >
    > I don't - but I do know that the user will be able to change the
    > battery!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > LeeRain


    No you don't know - I already lost this argument.

    OTOH it is a standard Nokia battery (BL-4D) and opening the case should not
    be that difficult or expensive (£25 official; £5 after-market).





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