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- 11-10-2003, 07:46 AM #1LawrenceGuest
My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to modify
it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different shaped
power buttons?
Thanks in advance,
L
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- 11-10-2003, 08:53 AM #2ß Ø ® GGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:46:14 -0000, "Lawrence"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
>button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to modify
>it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different shaped
>power buttons?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>L
>
>
couldn't you glue a stub on the top of the button to make it bigger ?
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- 11-10-2003, 12:15 PM #3LawrenceGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
>
> >My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
> >button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to
modify
> >it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different shaped
> >power buttons?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >L
> >
> >
>
> couldn't you glue a stub on the top of the button to make it bigger ?
>
Thanks, I had thought that about that but I was hoping to find a more
professional solution.
- 11-10-2003, 01:26 PM #4Steve TerryGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
"Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
> button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to modify
> it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different shaped
> power buttons?
> Thanks in advance,
> L
>
Don't switch it off ?
Steve Terry
- 11-10-2003, 03:42 PM #5Guest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:46:14 -0000, "Lawrence"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
>button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to modify
>it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different shaped
>power buttons?
Is he trying to switch it off and on with the tip of his finger? It
may be easier to use the fleshy pad on the last finger section (other
side from the nail). You'd not expect that to work well, but it seems
to.
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- 11-11-2003, 01:28 AM #6HughGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
"Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> "Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
> > button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to
modify
> > it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different
shaped
> > power buttons?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > L
> >
> Don't switch it off ?
>
> Steve Terry
>
Why should the user have to compensate for bog-awful ergonomics?
Selfsame problem for my father & his 3310. Problem with "don't turn it off"
idea is hospitals (older/frailer people often have to go to such places),
for example, and all the other places people go where ringing phones aren't
acceptable! Nor does he want to wade through the menus to switch it to
"silent" - I'm OK with doing that, but he's 86 and has better things to do
with his time than learn how to do something complicated because poor
industrial design has made something that should be simple difficult.
Doesn't solve the hospital problem, either. Leave it on just isn't an
answer.
Dad uses a ballpoint on his, which will break the rubber cap eventually but
works for the time being. I'm getting him to try one of my old PDA styluses
as it's less viciously pointed.
I stick to my point from a few weeks ago on this one - it's just poor
industrial design & almost all the mobile phone makers are ignoring an
important aspect of their market in the desire to chase youth & cool. They
will probably get it when my generation (50-ish), used to having phones,
begins to struggle with the almost uniformly lousy physical design of
current models. In the meantime, anyone with less than perfect physical
co-ordination remains disenfranchised.
It doesn't seem to occur to them that the older market would actually be
more willing to adopt mobile phones if they were easier to use.
Anyway, I'm off to work on my idea for a bluetooth-based hearing aid...
Hugh
- 11-11-2003, 02:29 AM #7LawrenceGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
> >My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
> >button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to
modify
> >it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different shaped
> >power buttons?
>
> Is he trying to switch it off and on with the tip of his finger? It
> may be easier to use the fleshy pad on the last finger section (other
> side from the nail). You'd not expect that to work well, but it seems
> to.
>
Thanks Iain, I'll suggest he tries that.
L
- 11-12-2003, 12:33 AM #8Steve TerryGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
"Hugh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > "Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
> > > button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to
> modify
> > > it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different
> shaped
> > > power buttons?
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > L
> >
> > Don't switch it off ?
> > Steve Terry
> >
> Why should the user have to compensate for bog-awful ergonomics?
<snip>
>
I would say Nokia power switch ergonomics are much better than most other
phones that put the power off in the red hang up switch,
which can so easily get knocked and switched off
My old Bosch 509 which had that, often switched itself off :-(
Steve Terry
- 11-12-2003, 01:50 AM #9HughGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
"Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
<snip>
> > Why should the user have to compensate for bog-awful ergonomics?
> <snip>
> >
> I would say Nokia power switch ergonomics are much better than most other
> phones that put the power off in the red hang up switch,
> which can so easily get knocked and switched off
>
> My old Bosch 509 which had that, often switched itself off :-(
>
> Steve Terry
>
>
One has to look outside the confines of the mobile phone world to find
better solutions. All my Walkpersons have very simple, easy-to-use "hold"
switches that are nevertheless very effective in day-in,day-out real world
use. A combination of a larger/easier on/off and a hold switch might work
well (but also probably puts a small dent in production economics). But that
would involve mobile phone designers in looking outside their own industry,
something they are not good at. It would also, heaven forfend, introduce one
of those ghastly old-fashioned switch things into a world of buttons.
In this respect, clamshells are better, although on the whole I'm not a fan.
Just to save a stage in the process, the reason for buying a Nokia rather
than some sort of device modelled on a crustacean was that Nokia (still) has
only decent loopset.
Hugh
(still a supporter of better usability solutions like, oh, let me
see......top-posting?)
- 11-12-2003, 05:38 AM #10Simon GardnerGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
In article <[email protected]>,
"Hugh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just to save a stage in the process, the reason for buying a Nokia rather
> than some sort of device modelled on a crustacean was that Nokia (still) has
> only decent loopset.
Any idea of any DECT phones that do?
- 11-12-2003, 09:29 AM #11HughGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
"Simon Gardner" <[email protected][dot]co[dot]uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Hugh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Just to save a stage in the process, the reason for buying a Nokia
rather
> > than some sort of device modelled on a crustacean was that Nokia (still)
has
> > only decent loopset.
>
> Any idea of any DECT phones that do?
>
>
No. Most don't have any kind of headset facility. The BT Verve 3000 does,
but I don't know if you could make a loopset work with it. I've tried a
simple non-phone loopset in the headphone socket on a Walkman for my Dad &
it worked fine - it's how he listens to CDs now.
DECT phones in general are bad news for people with *digital* hearing aids
so tend not to come with inductve couplers. There are one or two analogue
cordless phone with built-in couplers that you hold up to the ear in the
normal way (i.e. not loopsets) - no idea how good they are, though. I think
they are mainly from BT - Freestyle range.
See
http://www.telephonesonline.co.uk/de...alogue+Phones.
Try the RNID (www.rnid.org.uk)website - they have a good collection of
telecoms equipment for the deaf in their online shop.
Hugh
- 11-13-2003, 07:48 AM #12LawrenceGuest
Re: Changing the Power button on a nokia 3510i
> > >My father has the above phone and Parkinson's and so he finds the power
> > >button a bit too fiddly. Does anyone have any ideas on how best to
> modify
> > >it to make the button protrude more or if anywhere sells different
shaped
> > >power buttons?
> >
> > Is he trying to switch it off and on with the tip of his finger? It
> > may be easier to use the fleshy pad on the last finger section (other
> > side from the nail). You'd not expect that to work well, but it seems
> > to.
> >
> Thanks Iain, I'll suggest he tries that.
>
> L
>
Just to follow up, my father tried this technique and it worked a treat.
Thanks again,
L
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