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  1. #1
    a_dude
    Guest
    heres an interesting issue that popped into my head.....

    I bought a legitamate copy of Doom for the PC years ago....

    Now I have an Ngage, why do I have to purchase essentially the same product
    and pay for it?

    and by that I mean its the same bloody game....same product....

    now I know that programming code is vastly different..... except for the
    algorythms which is essentially 'the product' as I would term it....

    and by the way I have been programming for over 20 years ...from IC chips,
    assembler, C++, Basic, Fotran, Cobol, and now the internet flavours....

    I cannot see how I, as a programmer would have the audacity to charge
    someone full price to use basically the same product since all I do is port
    the algorythm....

    once I have a licence (PC) shoudnt I have the option of only paying a small
    fee (porting costs I assume would be one tenth of the product inital cost)
    since I have the original licence?

    what do all you think ?





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  2. #2
    Lister
    Guest

    Re: an interesting issue....


    "a_dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:3fdfb493$0$900$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
    > heres an interesting issue that popped into my head.....
    >
    > I bought a legitamate copy of Doom for the PC years ago....
    >
    > Now I have an Ngage, why do I have to purchase essentially the same

    product
    > and pay for it?
    >
    > and by that I mean its the same bloody game....same product....
    >
    > now I know that programming code is vastly different..... except for the
    > algorythms which is essentially 'the product' as I would term it....
    >
    > and by the way I have been programming for over 20 years ...from IC chips,
    > assembler, C++, Basic, Fotran, Cobol, and now the internet flavours....
    >
    > I cannot see how I, as a programmer would have the audacity to charge
    > someone full price to use basically the same product since all I do is

    port
    > the algorythm....
    >
    > once I have a licence (PC) shoudnt I have the option of only paying a

    small
    > fee (porting costs I assume would be one tenth of the product inital cost)
    > since I have the original licence?
    >
    > what do all you think ?
    >
    >
    >

    There was a simular post the other day on 1 of the dvd groups.
    a chap wanted to know why he had to buy all his films again on dvd ( over
    300) when he already owned them on VHS.
    if he hired them from the local vid store then copied them, it was
    essentially just a backup of the film he already owned ( not copying the
    spec features or other extra's ).
    I know its a completely different situation, but in a way its the same
    question...

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    «.·°·. LISTER .·°·.»
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  3. #3
    Charlie
    Guest

    Re: an interesting issue....

    I can see your point..... but i think if you did offer any kind of legal
    challenge (i know your not likely to, I'm just saying) you would likely
    throw the whole media world into uproar.

    Think about it. "I bought this album on vinyl twenty years ago, I want it on
    CD for £1"

    or something that affects millions of people at the moment, converting film
    collections from video to DVD. Apparently HMV did some research last year
    (i read it somewhere). They did this research because for the first time in
    a dogs age visual media (ie DVD) had out sold CD.

    They did the research and found that most people were, as I said replacing
    video's with DVD's. I'm sure if you won your legal case and set that legal
    precedent then HMV (and others) profits would crash and burn.

    well after that little rant, whats the N-gage like ? any good ? worth the
    money ?

    do you see it as a games machine with a built in phone OR a phone with great
    games options ?




    "a_dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:3fdfb493$0$900$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
    > heres an interesting issue that popped into my head.....
    >
    > I bought a legitamate copy of Doom for the PC years ago....
    >
    > Now I have an Ngage, why do I have to purchase essentially the same

    product
    > and pay for it?
    >
    > and by that I mean its the same bloody game....same product....
    >
    > now I know that programming code is vastly different..... except for the
    > algorythms which is essentially 'the product' as I would term it....
    >
    > and by the way I have been programming for over 20 years ...from IC chips,
    > assembler, C++, Basic, Fotran, Cobol, and now the internet flavours....
    >
    > I cannot see how I, as a programmer would have the audacity to charge
    > someone full price to use basically the same product since all I do is

    port
    > the algorythm....
    >
    > once I have a licence (PC) shoudnt I have the option of only paying a

    small
    > fee (porting costs I assume would be one tenth of the product inital cost)
    > since I have the original licence?
    >
    > what do all you think ?
    >
    >






  4. #4
    a_dude
    Guest

    Re: an interesting issue....

    the thing that interests me is developing totally new games via bluetooth,
    not turn-based games but interactive...2-4 players etc...and putting a
    communication system into the game as well...

    thats what taking my interest...

    at the moment im knee deep in new methods and procedures...so bear with me

    cheers

    and who said i wont challenge or go to court....come on... come after me

    "Charlie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I can see your point..... but i think if you did offer any kind of legal
    > challenge (i know your not likely to, I'm just saying) you would likely
    > throw the whole media world into uproar.
    >
    > Think about it. "I bought this album on vinyl twenty years ago, I want it

    on
    > CD for £1"
    >
    > or something that affects millions of people at the moment, converting

    film
    > collections from video to DVD. Apparently HMV did some research last year
    > (i read it somewhere). They did this research because for the first time

    in
    > a dogs age visual media (ie DVD) had out sold CD.
    >
    > They did the research and found that most people were, as I said replacing
    > video's with DVD's. I'm sure if you won your legal case and set that

    legal
    > precedent then HMV (and others) profits would crash and burn.
    >
    > well after that little rant, whats the N-gage like ? any good ? worth

    the
    > money ?
    >
    > do you see it as a games machine with a built in phone OR a phone with

    great
    > games options ?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "a_dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >

    news:3fdfb493$0$900$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
    > > heres an interesting issue that popped into my head.....
    > >
    > > I bought a legitamate copy of Doom for the PC years ago....
    > >
    > > Now I have an Ngage, why do I have to purchase essentially the same

    > product
    > > and pay for it?
    > >
    > > and by that I mean its the same bloody game....same product....
    > >
    > > now I know that programming code is vastly different..... except for the
    > > algorythms which is essentially 'the product' as I would term it....
    > >
    > > and by the way I have been programming for over 20 years ...from IC

    chips,
    > > assembler, C++, Basic, Fotran, Cobol, and now the internet flavours....
    > >
    > > I cannot see how I, as a programmer would have the audacity to charge
    > > someone full price to use basically the same product since all I do is

    > port
    > > the algorythm....
    > >
    > > once I have a licence (PC) shoudnt I have the option of only paying a

    > small
    > > fee (porting costs I assume would be one tenth of the product inital

    cost)
    > > since I have the original licence?
    > >
    > > what do all you think ?
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  5. #5
    a_dude
    Guest

    Re: an interesting issue....

    ill give u a running review of the ngage as i get to grips with it...

    its still boxed up...im still waiting for it...

    patience is a virtue....i only know Im definately getting it by the 7th Jan
    2004 since i won it

    cheers

    "Charlie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I can see your point..... but i think if you did offer any kind of legal
    > challenge (i know your not likely to, I'm just saying) you would likely
    > throw the whole media world into uproar.
    >
    > Think about it. "I bought this album on vinyl twenty years ago, I want it

    on
    > CD for £1"
    >
    > or something that affects millions of people at the moment, converting

    film
    > collections from video to DVD. Apparently HMV did some research last year
    > (i read it somewhere). They did this research because for the first time

    in
    > a dogs age visual media (ie DVD) had out sold CD.
    >
    > They did the research and found that most people were, as I said replacing
    > video's with DVD's. I'm sure if you won your legal case and set that

    legal
    > precedent then HMV (and others) profits would crash and burn.
    >
    > well after that little rant, whats the N-gage like ? any good ? worth

    the
    > money ?
    >
    > do you see it as a games machine with a built in phone OR a phone with

    great
    > games options ?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "a_dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >

    news:3fdfb493$0$900$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
    > > heres an interesting issue that popped into my head.....
    > >
    > > I bought a legitamate copy of Doom for the PC years ago....
    > >
    > > Now I have an Ngage, why do I have to purchase essentially the same

    > product
    > > and pay for it?
    > >
    > > and by that I mean its the same bloody game....same product....
    > >
    > > now I know that programming code is vastly different..... except for the
    > > algorythms which is essentially 'the product' as I would term it....
    > >
    > > and by the way I have been programming for over 20 years ...from IC

    chips,
    > > assembler, C++, Basic, Fotran, Cobol, and now the internet flavours....
    > >
    > > I cannot see how I, as a programmer would have the audacity to charge
    > > someone full price to use basically the same product since all I do is

    > port
    > > the algorythm....
    > >
    > > once I have a licence (PC) shoudnt I have the option of only paying a

    > small
    > > fee (porting costs I assume would be one tenth of the product inital

    cost)
    > > since I have the original licence?
    > >
    > > what do all you think ?
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






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