Someone posted this in a newsgroup I frequent ... As much as this may sound
like a good idea, I'm totally against it ... considering the ramifications
of missing an important business or personal call, incoming or outgoing.
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Someone posted this in a newsgroup I frequent ... As much as this may
sound
> like a good idea, I'm totally against it ... considering the ramifications
> of missing an important business or personal call, incoming or outgoing.
>
> http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/Personal.htm
>
> Bob
>
>
Does this really work? How long will the jamming last?
Thanks-
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Someone posted this in a newsgroup I frequent ... As much as this may
sound
> like a good idea, I'm totally against it ... considering the ramifications
> of missing an important business or personal call, incoming or outgoing.
>
> http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/Personal.htm
>
> Bob
>
>
"RonInCal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Does this really work? How long will the jamming last?
>
> Thanks-
>
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Someone posted this in a newsgroup I frequent ... As much as this may
> sound
> > like a good idea, I'm totally against it ... considering the
ramifications
> > of missing an important business or personal call, incoming or outgoing.
> >
> > http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/Personal.htm
> >
> > Bob
I have no clue ... nor what the range would be. Extremely bad idea though.
Illegal in the UK, and I suspect here in the states as well ... And if it
isn't, should be.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:52 GMT, Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have no clue ... nor what the range would be. Extremely bad idea though.
> Illegal in the UK, and I suspect here in the states as well ... And if it
> isn't, should be.
It's rather illegal in the US as well and considered about as cool a thing
to do as hanging around a hospital letting the air out of the tires of
ambulances.
Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Someone posted this in a newsgroup I frequent ... As much as this may sound
> like a good idea, I'm totally against it ... considering the ramifications
> of missing an important business or personal call, incoming or outgoing.
It's illegal in the US, anyhow.
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DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
> Less than $500 for the two you'd need Stateside to have all frequencies
> covered.
It's illegal in the US. FCC regs say you're not allowed to jam cellular
transmissions. I imagine that if you got caught, the fine would probably
be more than whatever you paid for the units.
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> Illegal in the UK, and I suspect here in the
> states as well
Someone in the Verizon group promised to smash cell phones of people that
rudely use them (ie. loudly in a restaurant, or at a movie theatre). Perhaps
he's a customer?
> Someone posted this in a newsgroup I frequent ... As much as this may sound
> like a good idea, I'm totally against it ... considering the ramifications
> of missing an important business or personal call, incoming or outgoing.
>
> http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/Personal.htm
>
> Bob
>
>
I'm not sure about the UK (where this guy is selling it), but it's
definitely not legal in the US to operate active jamming equipment.
Actually... reading further down, this guy KNOWS it's illegal in the UK,
as he refuses to sell to anyone in the UK.
This is further demonstrated seeing as the jammer depicted on the site
was designed to look an awful lot like an innocous cell phone. the only
thing wrong with the picture is that it has two antennas instead of one.
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:44 -0600, Steven J Sobol wrote:
> DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Less than $500 for the two you'd need Stateside to have all frequencies
>> covered.
>
> It's illegal in the US. FCC regs say you're not allowed to jam cellular
> transmissions. I imagine that if you got caught, the fine would probably
> be more than whatever you paid for the units.
Actually it is illegal to jam any transmission(to varying degs of course).
Now if you throw in the part where most people here not allowed to
transmit on the freqs our cellphones operate in and not to mention at the
power levels required to jam them, tho I would imagine just raising
the noise level on the party channel and or spewing invalid data may work
and not require as high a power requirement as just blasting the entire
freq spectrum. Last time I checked cdma was designed with methods to
cut through invalid data since the code division would have it only
respond to data specifically crafted for it using the esn/time as a key. Any
way the FCC has specific rules about any communication jamming or just
destroying entire bands of the radio spectrum in general so specific
cellphone jamming laws/restrictions are just the tip of the iceberg.
> Actually it is illegal to jam any transmission(to varying degs of course).
> Now if you throw in the part where most people here not allowed to
> transmit on the freqs our cellphones operate in and not to mention at the
> power levels required to jam them, tho I would imagine just raising
> the noise level on the party channel and or spewing invalid data may work
> and not require as high a power requirement as just blasting the entire
> freq spectrum.
But is that what those devices do, or do they just blindly interfere with
given frequency ranges?
> way the FCC has specific rules about any communication jamming or just
> destroying entire bands of the radio spectrum in general so specific
> cellphone jamming laws/restrictions are just the tip of the iceberg.
Right. I used the term cellular because in this context we were talking about
cellular jamming.
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:44 -0600, Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
> DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Less than $500 for the two you'd need Stateside to have all frequencies
>> covered.
>
> It's illegal in the US. FCC regs say you're not allowed to jam cellular
> transmissions. I imagine that if you got caught, the fine would probably
> be more than whatever you paid for the units.
And could very well include jail time if an emergency call was blocked.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:59:36 -0600, Steven J Sobol wrote:
> Central <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Actually it is illegal to jam any transmission(to varying degs of course).
>> Now if you throw in the part where most people here not allowed to
>> transmit on the freqs our cellphones operate in and not to mention at the
>> power levels required to jam them, tho I would imagine just raising
>> the noise level on the party channel and or spewing invalid data may work
>> and not require as high a power requirement as just blasting the entire
>> freq spectrum.
>
> But is that what those devices do, or do they just blindly interfere with
> given frequency ranges?
>
>> way the FCC has specific rules about any communication jamming or just
>> destroying entire bands of the radio spectrum in general so specific
>> cellphone jamming laws/restrictions are just the tip of the iceberg.
>
> Right. I used the term cellular because in this context we were talking about
> cellular jamming.
Well I was just saying larger implications of restrictions and penalties
because there might be some context where a user of a jamming device can
weasel out of a specific cellular context law. Esp when you realize our
sprint phones are not "cellphones" but classified as pcs phones (its fun
to rename things ).
As far as how they block the singles well the web page lists,
"Output power: about 20mW, (good in hospital)" and given cdma
phones have the ability to raise their transmit power much higher then
that I would bet this device tries to attack the phone registration
process or paging channel directly.
>On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:44 -0600, Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>> DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Less than $500 for the two you'd need Stateside to have all frequencies
>>> covered.
>>
>> It's illegal in the US. FCC regs say you're not allowed to jam cellular
>> transmissions. I imagine that if you got caught, the fine would probably
>> be more than whatever you paid for the units.
>
>And could very well include jail time if an emergency call was blocked.
It is very easy to disrupt cell phone use and devices are already in
place in some areas. A closed loop system will pretty much disable a
cell phone while it is inside the loop. If you go to a theatre and see
a sign that states that cellphone use is prohibited inside the
facility, this is probably what's going on. I haven't seen it much
yet, but I suspect it will catch on.
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