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- 11-21-2003, 03:12 PM #1DrewGuest
Just got off the phone with a rep who mentioned that ALL NEW Vision
enabled phones are unable to connect laptop at the higher speeds
avalable to the phone; 14.4kbps is all I could expect UNLESS I paid
extra for special Connection Card and service (per MB use). She
alluded to their being OLDER phones that COULD transfer the higher
speed available on the Vision network to my laptop--no special card
needed. She, however, could not or would not specify exactly which
phones, or even how long ago they stopped making said phones. Anyone
know which phones work that way?
Drew
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- 11-21-2003, 03:34 PM #2DSL GURUGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
Radio Shack still sells the connection kits, they may know. Also Google this
group, there's been posts on the subject over the last few months.
- 11-21-2003, 09:05 PM #3planeGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
[email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Radio Shack still sells the connection kits, they may know. Also Google this
> group, there's been posts on the subject over the last few months.
I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
is it held to 14.4?
- 11-22-2003, 07:17 AM #4Donna BeckerGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
<I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
is it held to 14.4?>
I just got back from a month long RV trip using my Sanyo 4900/cable/laptop.
I connected to the internet (#777) all the way from Cincy OH to San Antonio
TX and back (traveling along the highway as my husband drove a lot of the
time). I was always able to connect (even in 3 different TX state parks)
but the speed varied - not sure why. I ran a ping - ping -l 1 -t
yahoo.com - in the background so I wouldn't disconnect. It is definately
faster that 14.4. However, frequently Outlook Express or Internet Explorer
would hang up. The best way I found to get it working again was do a
combination of the following:
1. Reboot the computer
2. Remove the battery in the phone
3. Sign on and off Outlook express several times
While Sprint does not approve of laptop usage - I do know people are doing
this. Personally, I just can't imagine anyone wanting to use Sprint as
their only ISP for regular computer usage. But when it is your only
alternative it sure is nice. DonnaB
- 11-22-2003, 09:15 AM #5tom ronsonGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
I've found the data network much improved of late, and have even gotten to
the point of not using the pinger to keep the connection alive --- with no
apparent degrade in service.
And you are correct about the usefulness of the connection, when not at the
base with all the high-speed gizmos.
--tr
"Donna Becker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
> are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
> the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
> is it held to 14.4?>
> I just got back from a month long RV trip using my Sanyo
4900/cable/laptop.
> I connected to the internet (#777) all the way from Cincy OH to San
Antonio
> TX and back (traveling along the highway as my husband drove a lot of the
> time). I was always able to connect (even in 3 different TX state parks)
> but the speed varied - not sure why. I ran a ping - ping -l 1 -t
> yahoo.com - in the background so I wouldn't disconnect. It is definately
> faster that 14.4. However, frequently Outlook Express or Internet
Explorer
> would hang up. The best way I found to get it working again was do a
> combination of the following:
> 1. Reboot the computer
> 2. Remove the battery in the phone
> 3. Sign on and off Outlook express several times
> While Sprint does not approve of laptop usage - I do know people are doing
> this. Personally, I just can't imagine anyone wanting to use Sprint as
> their only ISP for regular computer usage. But when it is your only
> alternative it sure is nice. DonnaB
>
>
- 11-22-2003, 10:01 AM #6DrewGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
> I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
> are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
> the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
> is it held to 14.4?
Exactly my point... I know all about connection kits and 14.4 dial-up
speeds, but what I'm looking for is exact phone models that, according
to the Rep, actually enable the higher throughput.
Drew
- 11-22-2003, 11:50 AM #7planeGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
[email protected] (Drew) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
> > are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
> > the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
> > is it held to 14.4?
>
> Exactly my point... I know all about connection kits and 14.4 dial-up
> speeds, but what I'm looking for is exact phone models that, according
> to the Rep, actually enable the higher throughput.
>
> Drew
Well, i have a sanyo 4900 and a 5300 that connects at the higher
speed- I assssumethe 8100 will and well as the older lg's samsungs
etc--check oout the ebay auctions for cables, the software use to be
available on sprint, but I'm not sure now--I'm sure someone, including
myself could send you a copy if needed.
- 11-22-2003, 01:39 PM #8John RichardsGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
tom ronson wrote:
> I've found the data network much improved of late, and have even gotten to
> the point of not using the pinger to keep the connection alive --- with no
> apparent degrade in service.
Right, I don't use the pinger either, and I get a solid 230 kbps connection.
But I haven't tried it in a moving vehicle, only in motel rooms.
--
John Richards
- 11-22-2003, 01:46 PM #9John RichardsGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
plane wrote:
> [email protected] (Drew) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>> I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
>>> are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
>>> the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
>>> is it held to 14.4?
>>
>> Exactly my point... I know all about connection kits and 14.4 dial-up
>> speeds, but what I'm looking for is exact phone models that, according
>> to the Rep, actually enable the higher throughput.
>>
>> Drew
>
> Well, i have a sanyo 4900 and a 5300 that connects at the higher
> speed- I assssumethe 8100 will and well as the older lg's samsungs
> etc--check oout the ebay auctions for cables, the software use to be
> available on sprint, but I'm not sure now--I'm sure someone, including
> myself could send you a copy if needed.
Any of the Vision-capable phones will connect at the higher speed.
I use a Samsung VGA1000 for that. My Samsung 8500 (pre-Vision)
would only connect at 14,400. By the way, you don't need any software
for dialing, just install the free USB driver which allows your laptop to
recognize the phone as a modem.
--
John Richards
- 11-22-2003, 03:44 PM #10Donna BeckerGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
<By the way, you don't need any software
for dialing, just install the free USB driver which allows your laptop to
recognize the phone as a modem>
If you want to get the cable that also charges the Sanyo 4900/8100 here is a
link - I bought one from this guy and love it! DonnaB
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3059805973
- 11-22-2003, 04:44 PM #11planeGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> plane wrote:
> > [email protected] (Drew) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >>> I've seen some posts about the lower connect speeds, but to clarify,
> >>> are you saying that you can still get the higher connect speed with
> >>> the data cable to the laptop or not (say with the new sanyo 5400) or
> >>> is it held to 14.4?
> >>
> >> Exactly my point... I know all about connection kits and 14.4 dial-up
> >> speeds, but what I'm looking for is exact phone models that, according
> >> to the Rep, actually enable the higher throughput.
> >>
> >> Drew
> >
> > Well, i have a sanyo 4900 and a 5300 that connects at the higher
> > speed- I assssumethe 8100 will and well as the older lg's samsungs
> > etc--check oout the ebay auctions for cables, the software use to be
> > available on sprint, but I'm not sure now--I'm sure someone, including
> > myself could send you a copy if needed.
>
> Any of the Vision-capable phones will connect at the higher speed.
> I use a Samsung VGA1000 for that. My Samsung 8500 (pre-Vision)
> would only connect at 14,400. By the way, you don't need any software
> for dialing, just install the free USB driver which allows your laptop to
> recognize the phone as a modem.
Is there a spedific site which dicusses the connect speed limit on the
new vision phones, and where are the drivers available??
- 11-22-2003, 05:12 PM #12John RichardsGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
> Is there a spedific site which dicusses the connect speed limit on the
> new vision phones, and where are the drivers available??
You can download the free USB driver for your Vision phone from
http://futuredial.com .
- 11-22-2003, 05:33 PM #13Chris Taylor JrGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
same here. I like the fact that it goes on "standby" when I an not actively
moving data. keep usage low and is respectful of the limited bandwidth.
sometimes it takes a second to "reconnect" sortuv and get going. sometimes I
have to tell the windows dialer to disconnect and then reconnect.
it is well worth the convenience though and much faste than a dial up (at
solid throughput ie where latency is not an issue)
Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/
"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> tom ronson wrote:
> > I've found the data network much improved of late, and have even gotten
to
> > the point of not using the pinger to keep the connection alive --- with
no
> > apparent degrade in service.
>
> Right, I don't use the pinger either, and I get a solid 230 kbps
connection.
> But I haven't tried it in a moving vehicle, only in motel rooms.
>
> --
> John Richards
>
>
- 11-22-2003, 06:20 PM #14DrewGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
> Any of the Vision-capable phones will connect at the higher speed.
> I use a Samsung VGA1000 for that. My Samsung 8500 (pre-Vision)
> would only connect at 14,400. By the way, you don't need any software
> for dialing, just install the free USB driver which allows your laptop to
> recognize the phone as a modem.
I'm presently a Verizon customer shopping around for a new plan... do
you suppose that I would have the same ability to patch my laptop to a
Verizon handset similarly equipped for high-speed connectivity?
Drew
- 11-22-2003, 07:07 PM #15Donkey AgonyGuest
Re: Vision enabled phones; Older Models share High Speeds with Laptop?
John Richards wrote:
> Right, I don't use the pinger either, and I get a solid 230 kbps
> connection.
230kbps???
What phone are you using? My Sanyo 4900 peaked at about half that speed
*once*, most of the time it's 60-70kbps. I didn't know you could get
230k with a dedicated card, much less a phone!
--
da
~~
"OE Quotefix" http://flash.to/oe-quotefix
to fix Outlook Express' broken quoting.
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