Question regarding the contract end date.

My contract ends on Jan 2, 2004. I am wondering what happens if I were to
switch providers on December 5, 2003. At first blush, I'd assume I would
get hit with the ETF. But, since SPCS charges for the whole month in
advance and doesn't prorate, even if I cancel 12/5/03, I'd have paid up
until 1/2/04 and have completed my contract. Does anyone definitively know
whether I'd be charged the ETF?

John wrote:

> My contract ends on Jan 2, 2004. I am wondering what happens if I were to
> switch providers on December 5, 2003. At first blush, I'd assume I would
> get hit with the ETF. But, since SPCS charges for the whole month in
> advance and doesn't prorate, even if I cancel 12/5/03, I'd have paid up
> until 1/2/04 and have completed my contract. Does anyone definitively know
> whether I'd be charged the ETF?

Good question to bring up. Let me ask another.

If my anniversary date is January 11 (contract was signed on this date
in 2003), would my contract end on Jan 11 or Feb 11? The web site shows
Feb 11 as end of contract date.

So if I end my contract before Feb 11 next year, will I have to pay ETF?

If your January 2003 Invoice shows your plan changed on Jan 12, and Sprint
improperly slid it forward a month - then they have violated your contract, and
if you call Executive Services and complain, your ETF will be waived as of that
day.

www.sprintpcsinfo.com has the phone number
for executive services. Make sure you tell them you got the documentation. Dont
let them weasel out of it by agreeing to move your expiration date back to
January. If they violated your contract, you are free to consider it null and
void.

Thank you very much for your completely UNhelpful answer. If you read my
actually read my post, you'll realize you've got the dates completely wrong.
You might also notice that I mentioned nothing about Sprint doing anything
improper, I asked if 11 months into the contract, will I be charged the ETF
considering that I would have paid for the full 12 months.

Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
can weasel your way out of the entire contract. All that is required is to
rectify (or pay damages) for that breach. In your example, it's simply to
correct the date. That's simple contracts law. Follow your incorrect
advise would only lead to a breach by you and associates damages. Didn't
anyone ever teach you two wrongs don't make a right?


"DSL GURU" <dslguru@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031127190237.16483.00000838@mb-m23.aol.com...
> If your January 2003 Invoice shows your plan changed on Jan 12, and Sprint
> improperly slid it forward a month - then they have violated your
contract, and
> if you call Executive Services and complain, your ETF will be waived as of
that
> day.
>
> www.sprintpcsinfo.com has the phone number
> for executive services. Make sure you tell them you got the documentation.
Dont
> let them weasel out of it by agreeing to move your expiration date back to
> January. If they violated your contract, you are free to consider it null
and
> void.

John, it looks like Phillipe was trying to answer my question.
Nevertheless I think he over responded to it as to accussing
Sprint of sliding my conttract date.

Most likely Sprint considers the contract to end one month after
the contract anniversary date FOR BILLING PURPOSES only, not the
actual end of the contract.

Now for you, I'm going to venture a guess that in spite of being
paid in full up to your anniversary date, they will most likely
want to do an ETF on you. Best to call CS for that answer.

"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
newsjzxb.3471$_01.106@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> John, it looks like Phillipe was trying to answer my question.

Ok, I'll take your word for it. I don't see a previous post by you, but it
wouldn't be the first time my news server ate a message.

Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
can weasel your way out of the entire contract.
==============================

WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid grounds
for you to CANCEL the contract.

I Know, I just did exactly that.

Most likely Sprint considers the contract to end one month after
the contract anniversary date FOR BILLING PURPOSES only, not the
actual end of the contract.
=========================
No it is a known bug in their system. They improperly slide your expiration
date forward, and that IS VALID GROUNDs for you to have your contract
cancelled.

DSL GURU wrote:

> Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
> can weasel your way out of the entire contract.
> ==============================
>
> WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid
> grounds for you to CANCEL the contract.
>
> I Know, I just did exactly that.


What's the matter, Stevie? I thought you got a killer retention plan from
them.

What's the matter? I thought you got a killer retention plan from
them.

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Just wanted to have options available to me.
For instance I could buy a SE T616 and pocket $100, sell my Samsung I330 on
eBay, etc.

My son is still on Verizon, and Verizon phones
do work indoors better than SprintPCS phones, etc

I currently pay $60 for 2 lines, other carriers have nice shared minute plans
at $50/month, etc

I send email to SprintPCS, it goes to eCare which is now in India, and I get a
nonsense unresponsive answer from someone with a fake Anglo name.

I now frequent an area of town with a major SprintPCS dead spot, which
SprintPCS (of course) denies exists.

If I changed carriers I'd still come here to counter the apologists Scott, Bob,
and Tom.

Guaranteed SprintPCS as we know it will not exist a year from now. Its being
folded back into Sprint, so as to make Sprint a more attractive take-over
candidate.

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Moral - If SprintPCS has improperly extended your contract that does invalidate
it.

"DSL GURU" <dslguru@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031128105101.16817.00001093@mb-m07.aol.com...
> What's the matter? I thought you got a killer retention plan from
> them.
>
> ===============================
>
> Just wanted to have options available to me.
> For instance I could buy a SE T616 and pocket $100, sell my Samsung I330
on
> eBay, etc.
>
> My son is still on Verizon, and Verizon phones
> do work indoors better than SprintPCS phones, etc
>
> I currently pay $60 for 2 lines, other carriers have nice shared minute
plans
> at $50/month, etc
>
> I send email to SprintPCS, it goes to eCare which is now in India, and I
get a
> nonsense unresponsive answer from someone with a fake Anglo name.

You really are a bigot Phillipe. Always the hate against the folks in India
....as outlined by your numerous posts here, and in the EL newsgroups.
>
> I now frequent an area of town with a major SprintPCS dead spot, which
> SprintPCS (of course) denies exists.
>
> If I changed carriers I'd still come here to counter the apologists Scott,
Bob,
> and Tom.

LOL. So now you would stick around in a newsgroup you have no affiliation
with? You and your 35+ other IDs are real nutcases Phillipe. And I'd still
like to know where we've been apologizing for SPCS ... without your rhetoric
included this time.
>
> Guaranteed SprintPCS as we know it will not exist a year from now. Its
being
> folded back into Sprint, so as to make Sprint a more attractive take-over
> candidate.

Guess again Buckoo ... I doubt very much that case, both that SPCS will hold
it's own within the corporation, and in the fact the the feds will not allow
a merger of two such large competitors ...

Bob

DSL GURU wrote:
> Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
> can weasel your way out of the entire contract.
> ==============================
>
> WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid grounds
> for you to CANCEL the contract.
>
> I Know, I just did exactly that.

Cool,
Does that mean we don't have to deal w/ you anymore ? ( fingers
crossed )


Jim c.

DSL GURU wrote:

> Moral - If SprintPCS has improperly extended your contract that does invalidate
> it.

Lets face it whatever your name is,
Sprint was probably more than happy to let your dud butt go, make
room for a customer who will actually enjoy the service and not whine
all the time.
If i were them I'd throw a party.
And will be more than glad a year from now to call you on your guarantee
about them not being around.
Now go troll verizion.


Jim C.

DSL GURU wrote:
> Most likely Sprint considers the contract to end one month after
> the contract anniversary date FOR BILLING PURPOSES only, not the
> actual end of the contract.
> =========================
> No it is a known bug in their system. They improperly slide your expiration
> date forward, and that IS VALID GROUNDs for you to have your contract
> cancelled.

I would hardly think ANYONE would consider termination as a valid
remedy. Most likely Sprint would simply change the date for you

DSL GURU wrote:

> WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid grounds
> for you to CANCEL the contract.
>
> I Know, I just did exactly that.

Thank god..now you won't have anymore reasons to ***** about.