SMS Brochures

Rob,

I was correcetd on the RL2000 and RL2500 on HowardForums.com, too. I had
read that they were 2-way compatible, but I confirmed for myself,
hands-on, that they are not. The 3585i, however, does have the software
and menu features for sending messages. Whether it will be officially
supported is another story, though the phone certainly has that capability
enabled.

Steve

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, O/Siris wrote:

> In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401281720250.20753-100000
> @scrow>, Steven V [email protected] says...
> > These handsets are 2-way SMS compatible:
> > Sanyo VM4500 (SCP-5500)
> > Samsung VI660
> > Sanyo RL2000
> > Sanyo RL2500
> > Nokia 3585i
> > Nokia 3588i
> >
> > All future handsets will be 2-way SMS compatible.
> >
>
> Sorry, Steve. That does not match the list we've been
> trained on. Mostly, but a couple of glaring disagreements.
>
> The 3585i is *not* listed as 2way SMS enabled in any system
> we use to support it. Nor are the RL2000 or RL2500.
> You've already, and correctly, been reminded that the Treo
> 600 is enabled. The Toshiba video phone, the VM4050, it,
> too, will be enabled. Another Audiovox/Toshiba phone is in
> the pike, too, and will use 2wSMS.
>
> There's word filtering down about a PocketPC device, too,
> that will be 2wSMS enabled. But, no, folks, it doesn't
> have a Samsung tag on it, so it's not the one you may be
> thinking of.
>
> BTW, wandering a bit off-topic, a few people have asked
> about international SMS. I learned a new fact just this
> week: The SMS clients on the phones, they support 19-
> digits. We don't officially support it, but we in Tier 1
> have also been given a list of a few countries and mobile
> providers with whom messages *have* been exchanged. It's
> not a large list, folks. For example, Germany isn't even
> on it. Philippines and Australia *are* on it (I remember
> comments about both of those recently).
>
> We have ***no*** troubleshooting tools for international
> SMS. We will not be able to provide tech support on it.
> However, at least for now, it's not slated to cost anything
> extra.
>
>

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Yes, one-way messages appear to be billed, as the pricing on the brochures
states that messages are billed the same whether sent or received...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Terry Knab wrote:

> Any word on how or if Short Mail is going to fall under this pricing?
>
> Or one-way incoming messages? (I'd hate to think they'd charge me for one
> way incoming messages, half of which are viagra ads)
>
> "Thomas Arnold" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I was talking to *2 help tonight, and they offered the following
> preliminary
> > information. They said the pricing is subject to change based on studies
> > they are doing.
> >
> > The go-live date is Feb 03.
> >
> > If you have Vision: Unlimited msgs $5
> > If you don't have Vision: Unlimited msgs $10
> > If you don't have Vision: 100 msgs $5
> >
> > The CSR also confirmed it was per phone (for the add-a-phone accounts).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steven V Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0401281508540.20312-100000@scrow...
> > > As I posted at www.HowardForums.com yesterday, the brochures for Sprint
> > > PCS's two-way SMS service arrived yesterday. They have a go-public date
> of
> > > February 1, so until that date rolls around, all I'll say is...
> > >
> > > ...These are very attractive packages. There are discounts for Vision
> > > customers, and a handful of messages will be thrown in for free. Sprint
> > > PCS didn't design these packages to be highly competitive, but they're
> on
> > > par with what I would reasonably expect to pay for the service.
> > >
> > > As the pricing has not been released to the public yet, don't ask me for
> > > that information. I will, however, answer any general questions about
> the
> > > service, based on the information I've been able to gather from
> reputable
> > > sources which is suitable for distribution to the general public at this
> > > point.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, John Doe wrote:

>
> "Thomas Arnold" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I was talking to *2 help tonight, and they offered the following
> preliminary
> > information. They said the pricing is subject to change based on studies
> > they are doing.
> >
> > The go-live date is Feb 03.
> >
> > If you have Vision: Unlimited msgs $5
> > If you don't have Vision: Unlimited msgs $10
> > If you don't have Vision: 100 msgs $5
> >
> > The CSR also confirmed it was per phone (for the add-a-phone accounts).
> >
> >
>
> So let me get this straight....for a feature that was supposed to be
> included under Vision for what we are already paying extra for, now we're
> having to pay even more for something that should be standard in the first
> place?
>
> Lovely.....
>
>
>

If you leave your plan alone, nothing will change for you.

Steve

I have my issues with that one.

This is gonna be interesting to say the least, because if they start billing
for incoming text, they're gonna have to put a spam filtering system in
place.

(they always were telling vision customers incoming text msgs were free...)

"Steven V Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0401292022360.27586-100000@scrow...
> Yes, one-way messages appear to be billed, as the pricing on the brochures
> states that messages are billed the same whether sent or received...
>
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Terry Knab wrote:
>
> > Any word on how or if Short Mail is going to fall under this pricing?
> >
> > Or one-way incoming messages? (I'd hate to think they'd charge me for
one
> > way incoming messages, half of which are viagra ads)
> >
> > "Thomas Arnold" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > I was talking to *2 help tonight, and they offered the following
> > preliminary
> > > information. They said the pricing is subject to change based on
studies
> > > they are doing.
> > >
> > > The go-live date is Feb 03.
> > >
> > > If you have Vision: Unlimited msgs $5
> > > If you don't have Vision: Unlimited msgs $10
> > > If you don't have Vision: 100 msgs $5
> > >
> > > The CSR also confirmed it was per phone (for the add-a-phone
accounts).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Steven V Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0401281508540.20312-100000@scrow...
> > > > As I posted at www.HowardForums.com yesterday, the brochures for
Sprint
> > > > PCS's two-way SMS service arrived yesterday. They have a go-public
date
> > of
> > > > February 1, so until that date rolls around, all I'll say is...
> > > >
> > > > ...These are very attractive packages. There are discounts for
Vision
> > > > customers, and a handful of messages will be thrown in for free.
Sprint
> > > > PCS didn't design these packages to be highly competitive, but
they're
> > on
> > > > par with what I would reasonably expect to pay for the service.
> > > >
> > > > As the pricing has not been released to the public yet, don't ask me
for
> > > > that information. I will, however, answer any general questions
about
> > the
> > > > service, based on the information I've been able to gather from
> > reputable
> > > > sources which is suitable for distribution to the general public at
this
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401292021040.27586-100000@scrow>,=20
[email protected] says...
> The 3585i, however, does have the software=20
> and menu features for sending messages. Whether it will be officially=20
> supported is another story, though the phone certainly has that capabilit=
y=20
> enabled.
>=20
>=20

True enough. I think there's been speculation on that phone ever since=20
we released it. But the list of enabled phones we've been given in tech=20
support excludes it.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> So let me get this straight....for a feature that was supposed to be
> included under Vision for what we are already paying extra for, now we're
> having to pay even more for something that should be standard in the firs=
t
> place?
>=20
> Lovely.....
>=20
>=20

Finalize any changes you may be considering for Vision/RL by 2/3/04. =20
I'm not sure I'm allowed to reveal why, so I ask your trust. Make sure=20
Vision and/or Ready Link are as you want them (in terms of billing=20
package) before that date.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

Somewhere around Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:01:05 GMT, O/Siris was brave
enough to write:


>
>The 3585i is *not* listed as 2way SMS enabled in any system
>we use to support it. Nor are the RL2000 or RL2500.

Will there be a firmware update for the RL2500? After all it is
basically the same phone as the VM4500 , minus the vid/camera.

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remove the +

In article <[email protected]>, bowling@the_
10.pin says...
> Somewhere around Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:01:05 GMT, O/Siris was brave
> enough to write:
>=20
>=20
> >
> >The 3585i is *not* listed as 2way SMS enabled in any system=20
> >we use to support it. Nor are the RL2000 or RL2500. =20
>=20
> Will there be a firmware update for the RL2500? After all it is
> basically the same phone as the VM4500 , minus the vid/camera.
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> Try to be the best of whatever you are, even if what you are is no good.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> tnpnr@mind+spring.com
> remove the +
>=20

There are no plans to upgrade any phone that currently defaults to=20
ShortMail.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

Considering the semi-official stuff I've been given has stated that no
handset will be upgradable to 2-way SMS, my best guess is... no.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, w.g. wrote:

> Somewhere around Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:01:05 GMT, O/Siris was brave
> enough to write:
>
>
> >
> >The 3585i is *not* listed as 2way SMS enabled in any system
> >we use to support it. Nor are the RL2000 or RL2500.
>
> Will there be a firmware update for the RL2500? After all it is
> basically the same phone as the VM4500 , minus the vid/camera.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Try to be the best of whatever you are, even if what you are is no good.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> tnpnr@mind+spring.com
> remove the +
>

"Steven V Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0401281508540.20312-100000@scrow...
> As I posted at www.HowardForums.com yesterday, the brochures for Sprint
> PCS's two-way SMS service arrived yesterday. They have a go-public date of
> February 1, so until that date rolls around, all I'll say is...

I am looking for your thread right now and I am having trouble finding it.

Jammy

"Steven V Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0401281720250.20753-100000@scrow...

> No handsets can be upgraded to 2-way SMS capability. If MO-SMS wasn't in
> the handset when it was released, it will not be added through a software
> upgrade. Handsets that are not MO-SMS capable can continue to use Short
> Mail to send messages, but will receive messages as regular SMS on the
> handset.


Oh crap.

Jammy

It's a sticky at the very top of the sprintpcs.howardforums.com forum.