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  1. #16
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor


    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Scott Stephenson wrote:
    >
    >
    > > Interesting, because that's about the same time that the rumor on the

    street
    > > was that in order to get PCS, you'd have to buy the whole corporation.

    >
    > Oh, that's not a rumor. I honestly don't know what AT&T was thinking by
    > spinning off AT&T wireless. Landline telephone service is in decline,
    > as the "glory days" of ILECs when people wanted more than one phone line
    > for voice, dial-up data and fax services are long gone. Anyone with a
    > brain knows that for a little more than the price of a comprehensive
    > long distance package, they can get a cell phone plan that includes
    > domestic LD. And data services are still feeling the pinch... we still
    > have a huge fiber glut in the US. The only true growth sector is
    > wireless. Sprint would be stupid to sell off their wireless holdings,
    > without putting the rest of the company up for sale with it.
    >

    Agreed- when they hit 4G wireless technology down the road, all of that
    copper is going to be pretty useless.





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  2. #17
    Scott Nelson
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    Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor

    Very true.
    However, why not get with Motorola and 'make' a Nextel Tri-node phone that
    will.do US frequencies?
    Shoot, I would rather have CONUS roaming than International roaming, if it
    came down to making a choice..

    Scotty


    "John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > I knew they had GSM abroad. Just no roaming agreements with CONUS GSM
    > > Carriers.
    > > It would be a good thing for them to do a roaming deal with Cingular.
    > >
    > > Scotty

    >
    > The dual-mode phones like the i2000 have included
    > 900 MHz GSM along with 800 MHz SMR iDEN. No USA
    > GSM service provider offers 900 MHz, only 800
    > and 1900 MHz.
    >
    > John C.
    >
    >






  3. #18
    Jerome Zelinske
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    Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor

    Maybe if 4g is taken over by data, voice will be relegated back to
    copper?


    Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Scott Stephenson wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Interesting, because that's about the same time that the rumor on the

    >
    > street
    >
    >>>was that in order to get PCS, you'd have to buy the whole corporation.

    >>
    >>Oh, that's not a rumor. I honestly don't know what AT&T was thinking by
    >>spinning off AT&T wireless. Landline telephone service is in decline,
    >>as the "glory days" of ILECs when people wanted more than one phone line
    >>for voice, dial-up data and fax services are long gone. Anyone with a
    >>brain knows that for a little more than the price of a comprehensive
    >>long distance package, they can get a cell phone plan that includes
    >>domestic LD. And data services are still feeling the pinch... we still
    >>have a huge fiber glut in the US. The only true growth sector is
    >>wireless. Sprint would be stupid to sell off their wireless holdings,
    >>without putting the rest of the company up for sale with it.
    >>

    >
    > Agreed- when they hit 4G wireless technology down the road, all of that
    > copper is going to be pretty useless.
    >
    >





  4. #19
    Mike
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    Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor

    Scott Nelson wrote:

    > Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for roaming
    > capabilities.
    > It would be better for them to get some kind of GAIT phone and partner with
    > a GSM carrier in the US and do like SprintPCS does and charge .50 a minute
    > for roaming or an FC&A plan like Sprint does.
    >
    > It takes a lot of money to build out a network and like DSL, Cable TV, etc.,
    > you have to be able to make the investment pay for itself over time.
    > Carriers know that the MSA's is where the $$$ is.
    > RSA's ( Rural Service Areas ) don't really have a big issue of high minute
    > usage and are harder to pay off.
    > The A and B bands for years, pushed the "we have better coverage, blah blah
    > blah" schpeal, way before the other PCS/SMR carriers came on the scene. If
    > Sprint, Verizon or one of the other carriers with more coverage make a PPT
    > system that kick but feature-wise and has more coverage, Nextel has no
    > choice but to offer lower plan rates or some other desperate way to keep
    > customers.
    > Unless Nextel makes it's system shine better than Verizon or Sprint, and get
    > some kind of roaming in the US, Nextel will slowly start to lose
    > non-business consumers. Unlimited incoming is great, unless you can't get
    > any signal, then it's pretty much a 'brick' with a battery. ;-)
    > Towers/sites, spectrum and Land rental to put the towers on, techs to fix
    > the towers/system, etc all add up.
    > Nextel has some huge growing pains ahead.
    > Of course, if you live in a big city and never go anywhere, all of this is
    > academic anyway.
    >
    > I.....must ....stop...rambling now........ ;-)
    >
    > Scotty
    >


    I have to say that Nextel does have an opportunity here. I seldom hear
    their customers whine about customer service. When people leave Nextel,
    in my experience, it's over pricing or coverage. Even equipment seldom
    pushes people away. I have customers come in with Nextel phones that
    weigh more than my laptop, and they just rave about the service.

    Nextel could be a player like Apple. If Nextel can come across as just
    being cellular done the right way, the hell with everyone else, then
    people will pay the price. All they need are more lust objects like the
    i730 and partnerships that let their customers roam on other networks.
    Roll out more controls, more CSAs (imagine what a no-hold-time guarantee
    would do for a wireless carrier). And here's the key - charge for it.



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