DO NOT GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO FREE/DONATION RINGTONE SITES

A lot of folks are signing up for the free/donation ringtone sites.

A word to the wise is not to give your phone number to these sites.

Many are allowing ringtone files to be posted that are clearly copyright
infringements
If the publishers go after these sites they will be able to easily subponea
them to turn over our phone numbers.

This isn't like napster or kazaa where it was difficult to trace the
infringer

here it's simple they've got your phone number.
So don't give them FREE/DONATION SITES your cell number if you don't want to
be exposed

Better safe than stupid

Franklin

Who cares. They aren't going to come after people with these ringtones and
screensavers on their phones. If they go after anyone it will be the people
charging for copyrighted material. Even if they did come after individuals
all you would have to do is remove them. No biggie.

"Franklin" <michaelmichael@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> A lot of folks are signing up for the free/donation ringtone sites.
>
> A word to the wise is not to give your phone number to these sites.
>
> Many are allowing ringtone files to be posted that are clearly copyright
> infringements
> If the publishers go after these sites they will be able to easily
subponea
> them to turn over our phone numbers.
>
> This isn't like napster or kazaa where it was difficult to trace the
> infringer
>
> here it's simple they've got your phone number.
> So don't give them FREE/DONATION SITES your cell number if you don't want
to
> be exposed
>
> Better safe than stupid
>
> Franklin
>
>
>
>
>

In article <I9W_b.8714$aT1.1843@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,=20
michaelmichael@hotmail.com says...
> A lot of folks are signing up for the free/donation ringtone sites.
>=20
> A word to the wise is not to give your phone number to these sites.
>=20
> Many are allowing ringtone files to be posted that are clearly copyright
> infringements
> If the publishers go after these sites they will be able to easily subpon=
ea
> them to turn over our phone numbers.
>=20

Why would they do that? They've not even attempted that so far. =20
They've gone only after the sharers. These sites that seem to have=20
become such a crusade for you present no legal danger to the end=20
user, because the end user is not a participant in the sharing of=20
files (at least, not on any of the sites I've visited thus far).

Even 3GUpload, when allows user submissions, has an approval process=20
in place before the ringer, etc, is made available for public=20
consumption. That effectively indemnifies the end user.

Unless, of course, you've found even one example to back up your=20
claim.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them

>Why would they do that?
Simple really..
Because Ringtones is BIG Business 3.5Billion last year. They are going to
want to protect themselves and their future businesses.

>These sites that seem to have
>become such a crusade for you present no legal danger to the end
>user, because the end user is not a participant in the sharing of
>files (at least, not on any of the sites I've visited thus far).

It takes two to tangle - The FREE/DONATION SITE - THEMEMBER/ USER
The RIAA first went after Napster Shut it Down
They raided Kazza's offices last week
Now they go after the end user. It would be a lot easier for them to get you
IF they had a telephone number linking to the copyrights they are enforcing.

My crusade as you call it is designed to save good people a lot of grief
down the road.

Some will listen and decide not give up their phone numbers

Others will want to follow your advice and play the numbers

Franklin









"O/Siris" <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
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In article <I9W_b.8714$aT1.1843@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
michaelmichael@hotmail.com says...
> A lot of folks are signing up for the free/donation ringtone sites.
>
> A word to the wise is not to give your phone number to these sites.
>
> Many are allowing ringtone files to be posted that are clearly copyright
> infringements
> If the publishers go after these sites they will be able to easily
subponea
> them to turn over our phone numbers.
>

Why would they do that? They've not even attempted that so far.
They've gone only after the sharers. These sites that seem to have
become such a crusade for you present no legal danger to the end
user, because the end user is not a participant in the sharing of
files (at least, not on any of the sites I've visited thus far).

Even 3GUpload, when allows user submissions, has an approval process
in place before the ringer, etc, is made available for public
consumption. That effectively indemnifies the end user.

Unless, of course, you've found even one example to back up your
claim.
--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them

Why would what we do concern you? Are you trying to get your wings or something? Why dont you stop trying to play "Big Brother" and let us decide what we want to do with our own phones. Don't know what you're smoking, but wish you would share it with the rest of us so we can share in your fantasy's.

No I'm not with the RIAA
I'm just a guy trying to hlp people understand that the bad guys are in here
working them hard and to very carefull about sharing their phone numbers.

Why not be safe?


Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to give
their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?

It's no skin off your nose right?

Franklin

"tom ronson" <tonostuff@blahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mastec" <Mastec.126u2z@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote in message
> news:Mastec.126u2z@nospam.cellphoneforums.net...
> >
> > Why would what we do concern you? Are you trying to get your wings or
> > something? Why dont you stop trying to play "Big Brother" and let us
> > decide what we want to do with our own phones. Don't know what you're
> > smoking, but wish you would share it with the rest of us so we can
> > share in your fantasy's.
>
> likely a JO from RIAA, looking for his next "kill".
>
>
>
>
>
> .................................................. ..............
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"Franklin" <michaelmichael@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> No I'm not with the RIAA
> I'm just a guy trying to hlp people understand that the bad guys are in
here
> working them hard and to very carefull about sharing their phone numbers.
>
> Why not be safe?
>
>
> Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to give
> their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?
>
> It's no skin off your nose right?
>

It's the shrillness of your plea that takes the "skin off my nose". Of
course you're corresponding to a guy that doesn't think Darwin is allowed
enough room to work in this country, and don't give a crap one who gives
their phone number to who.

If you really want to be safe just toss your phone in the toilet ----
problem solved. 'Sides, these things can cause cancer and lead to an idiot
from Texas jacking this NG group around. THOSE are bigger problems than what
your going off about.

Cool with you, Franklin?





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Hi Tom.

Don't toss your phone in the toilet just cos you can't steal someone's work

Don't burn down your house because you want to repaint it

Just do the honest thing and buy the paint


Whatever you do, don't expose yourself by giving your phone number to
unscruplous people
FREE/DONATION Sites who have already proved they have no respect for peoples
properties and rights

End Of Story
Franklin

"tom ronson" <tonostuff@blahoo.com> wrote in message
news:403cf88e$0$69001$a8266bb1@news.titannews.com. ..
>
> "Franklin" <michaelmichael@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1_5%b.7837$yZ1.2767@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > No I'm not with the RIAA
> > I'm just a guy trying to hlp people understand that the bad guys are in
> here
> > working them hard and to very carefull about sharing their phone
numbers.
> >
> > Why not be safe?
> >
> >
> > Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to give
> > their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?
> >
> > It's no skin off your nose right?
> >
>
> It's the shrillness of your plea that takes the "skin off my nose". Of
> course you're corresponding to a guy that doesn't think Darwin is allowed
> enough room to work in this country, and don't give a crap one who gives
> their phone number to who.
>
> If you really want to be safe just toss your phone in the toilet ----
> problem solved. 'Sides, these things can cause cancer and lead to an idiot
> from Texas jacking this NG group around. THOSE are bigger problems than
what
> your going off about.
>
> Cool with you, Franklin?
>
>
>
>
>
> .................................................. ..............
> Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access
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In article <1_5%b.7837$yZ1.2767@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>,=20
michaelmichael@hotmail.com says...
> Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to give
> their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?
>=20


The problem I have is that the "concern" you keep expressing, RIAA=20
suing an end user over files NOT peer-to-peer shared, but provided by=20
a site, that simply hasn't and won't happen. The end user has no=20
legal worry from it. None.


--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them

ya, ya ---- you're the one with this phobia so no matter what I'm not going
to sweat it. I've used these services in the past, and -never- had a
problem. So I'm not going to burn my phone down or paint it with stolen
paint ---- or whatever it is you're blathering on about.

And I hesitate to mention this, but I also use peer-to-peer software. So
when you're sitting around your plush RIAA office this bit of information
will give you something else to panic about.

And on last thing --- who the f*ck are you to call anyone "unscrupulous"?
Quit whistling out of your ass, you'll live longer and feel better doing it,
Franklin.

--tr

"Franklin" <michaelmichael@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6u7%b.7929$yZ1.7113@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Hi Tom.
>
> Don't toss your phone in the toilet just cos you can't steal someone's
work
>
> Don't burn down your house because you want to repaint it
>
> Just do the honest thing and buy the paint
>
>
> Whatever you do, don't expose yourself by giving your phone number to
> unscruplous people
> FREE/DONATION Sites who have already proved they have no respect for
peoples
> properties and rights
>
> End Of Story
> Franklin
>
> "tom ronson" <tonostuff@blahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:403cf88e$0$69001$a8266bb1@news.titannews.com. ..
> >
> > "Franklin" <michaelmichael@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1_5%b.7837$yZ1.2767@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > No I'm not with the RIAA
> > > I'm just a guy trying to hlp people understand that the bad guys are
in
> > here
> > > working them hard and to very carefull about sharing their phone
> numbers.
> > >
> > > Why not be safe?
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to
give
> > > their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?
> > >
> > > It's no skin off your nose right?
> > >
> >
> > It's the shrillness of your plea that takes the "skin off my nose". Of
> > course you're corresponding to a guy that doesn't think Darwin is
allowed
> > enough room to work in this country, and don't give a crap one who gives
> > their phone number to who.
> >
> > If you really want to be safe just toss your phone in the toilet ----
> > problem solved. 'Sides, these things can cause cancer and lead to an
idiot
> > from Texas jacking this NG group around. THOSE are bigger problems than
> what
> > your going off about.
> >
> > Cool with you, Franklin?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .................................................. ..............
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> > >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<<
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> >
>
>





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Hey man
I signed up to one of the free sites 3g something or another and they gave
my number and email out to the spammers
Totally freaking sucked!
None stop BS I'm looking for a new carrier and service, old number is toast
from all the BS calls I'm getting

don't blast your number to these freaks!


"tom ronson" <tonostuff@blahoo.com> wrote in message
news:403cf88e$0$69001$a8266bb1@news.titannews.com. ..
>
> "Franklin" <michaelmichael@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1_5%b.7837$yZ1.2767@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > No I'm not with the RIAA
> > I'm just a guy trying to hlp people understand that the bad guys are in
> here
> > working them hard and to very carefull about sharing their phone
numbers.
> >
> > Why not be safe?
> >
> >
> > Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to give
> > their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?
> >
> > It's no skin off your nose right?
> >
>
> It's the shrillness of your plea that takes the "skin off my nose". Of
> course you're corresponding to a guy that doesn't think Darwin is allowed
> enough room to work in this country, and don't give a crap one who gives
> their phone number to who.
>
> If you really want to be safe just toss your phone in the toilet ----
> problem solved. 'Sides, these things can cause cancer and lead to an idiot
> from Texas jacking this NG group around. THOSE are bigger problems than
what
> your going off about.
>
> Cool with you, Franklin?
>
>
>
>
>
> .................................................. ..............
> Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access
> >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<<
> -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-
>




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In article <403e21d4_6@corp.newsgroups.com>, "RONMAGNUM" <12344MAGNUM=20
@hotmail.com> says...
>=20
> Hey man
> I signed up to one of the free sites 3g something or another and they gav=
e
> my number and email out to the spammers
> Totally freaking sucked!
> None stop BS I'm looking for a new carrier and service, old number is to=
ast
> from all the BS calls I'm getting
>=20
> don't blast your number to these freaks!
>=20

So far as I'm able to determine, 3GUpload does not sell names or=20
contact information. They use donations, and affiliated sales (I.e.=20
they offer accessories for sale). Participation is not required in=20
*either* revenue stream to partake of the downloads.

--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them

As was explained by the gentleman in the other post

Just don't give your phone number to the free/donation sites
It's just that simple



I am exposed by giving my phone number to FREE/Donation Sites
Exposed for downloading Copyrighted Images, Ringtones etc....

I am less Exposed IF I don't give these sites my phone number.

Shouldn't Have to anyway. What does a FREE/Donation site NEED with MY Phone
Number?

Are they going to call me up?
For What?

"O/Siris" <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:5f246fad03a87f5e9827ff401f627e67@news.teranew s.com...
In article <403e21d4_6@corp.newsgroups.com>, "RONMAGNUM" <12344MAGNUM
@hotmail.com> says...
>
> Hey man
> I signed up to one of the free sites 3g something or another and they gave
> my number and email out to the spammers
> Totally freaking sucked!
> None stop BS I'm looking for a new carrier and service, old number is
toast
> from all the BS calls I'm getting
>
> don't blast your number to these freaks!
>

So far as I'm able to determine, 3GUpload does not sell names or
contact information. They use donations, and affiliated sales (I.e.
they offer accessories for sale). Participation is not required in
*either* revenue stream to partake of the downloads.

--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them

In article <Y6D%b.10305$yZ1.2149
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,=20
Franklinmichaelmichael@hotmail.com says...
> I am exposed by giving my phone number to FREE/Donation Sites
> Exposed for downloading Copyrighted Images, Ringtones etc....
>=20

In order for you to be "exposed", doesn't there have to be=20
something to which you might *be* exposed? I'd sure think=20
so. And, so far, you haven't provided any evidence at all=20
(much less proof) that such an eventuality is even=20
possible.

--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

LOL sup 0siris whats the deal i see yer reach goes beyond the site. lol



"O/Siris" <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:9e006d1ad34d98607b6db2a027c53c36@news.teranew s.com...
In article <1_5%b.7837$yZ1.2767@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
michaelmichael@hotmail.com says...
> Why do you have a problem with me trying to let people know NOT to give
> their phone numbers to so called FREE/Donation Sites?
>


The problem I have is that the "concern" you keep expressing, RIAA
suing an end user over files NOT peer-to-peer shared, but provided by
a site, that simply hasn't and won't happen. The end user has no
legal worry from it. None.


--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them