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- 03-25-2004, 05:06 AM #16The Supreme EnchanterGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
Fair use and public domain. If you wish, you can contact these companies
and have them file a civil law suit against me. DUMB ASS.
"O/Siris" <0siris@sprīntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> March 2004 Latest News
> Industry News Vendor News
<copyright violation snipped>
> t.. College Hoops Fans Can Keep Up-to-Date With Their
> Favorite Team During The Tournament Through A One-Stop Mobile Shop From
> Sprint (3/15/2004)
You would do well for yourself to read up on copyright law before you
go around posting unattributed information en masse this way.
--
RŲß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
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- 03-25-2004, 06:20 AM #17Scott Nelson - Wash DCGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
Don't forget, he's doing us a "favor" remember? ;-)
Should have just posted the link and been done with it.
All of the stuff is academic until it, and if it, hits the stores anyway.
Scotty
"O/Siris" <0siris@sprīntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> March 2004 Latest News
> Industry News Vendor News
<copyright violation snipped>
> t.. College Hoops Fans Can Keep Up-to-Date With Their
> Favorite Team During The Tournament Through A One-Stop Mobile Shop From
> Sprint (3/15/2004)
You would do well for yourself to read up on copyright law before you
go around posting unattributed information en masse this way.
--
RŲß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
- 03-25-2004, 02:18 PM #18O/SirisGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <%[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Fair use and public domain.
>=20
Posting the entirety of a copyright work is *not* fair use. Nor is=20
posting an article on The Web public domain.
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
- 03-25-2004, 05:28 PM #19The Supreme EnchanterGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
Yes it is. and no, I am not lying like the last 100 posts you have made
here about everyone else.
Sense you are a minimum wager telephone operator, let me at least bring up
public domain as fair use is a heated discussion. If a owner of a copyright
or trademark allows others to use it, then it falls into the public domain.
That is why companies make a big deal of piracy even though copying software
makes them money.
Band Aid (ever wonder why it's band air brand? This is still ongoing?),
Star Wars (George Lucas sues the government and lost the Star Wars Defense
package in the 80s), Xerox(other companies used the Xerox machine name, but
xerox had a year long ad campaign for photocopiers and keep the trademark).
These are the most obvious..
Any work of art is copyrighted(like this message), however I am not
claiming copyright protection on it and am sending it up to a public forum
so I loose the holder. It becomes public domain and no one owns it. If
what you say is try, then you responding back to me with the original
message would violate my copyright on this work of art. Next time, realize
that there are a lot of people who know more than you minimum wager.
Point. Game. match. Dumb ass.
"O/Siris" <0siris@sprīntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Fair use and public domain.
>
Posting the entirety of a copyright work is *not* fair use. Nor is
posting an article on The Web public domain.
--
RŲß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
- 03-25-2004, 05:39 PM #20Scott StephensonGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
"The Supreme Enchanter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes it is. and no, I am not lying like the last 100 posts you have made
> here about everyone else.
>
> Sense you are a minimum wager telephone operator, let me at least bring up
> public domain as fair use is a heated discussion. If a owner of a
copyright
> or trademark allows others to use it, then it falls into the public
domain.
No it doesn't- better brush up on use with permission, as opposed to
copyright violation.
> That is why companies make a big deal of piracy even though copying
software
> makes them money.
No its not- I can see you don't understand the intellectual property laws
either.
>
> Band Aid (ever wonder why it's band air brand? This is still
ongoing?),
> Star Wars (George Lucas sues the government and lost the Star Wars Defense
> package in the 80s), Xerox(other companies used the Xerox machine name,
but
> xerox had a year long ad campaign for photocopiers and keep the
trademark).
> These are the most obvious..
>
> Any work of art is copyrighted(like this message), however I am not
> claiming copyright protection on it and am sending it up to a public forum
> so I loose the holder. It becomes public domain and no one owns it. If
> what you say is try, then you responding back to me with the original
> message would violate my copyright on this work of art. Next time,
realize
> that there are a lot of people who know more than you minimum wager.
Wrong again, stupid. You took the proerty of another person and posted it
verbatim here, WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. That is a violation of copyright
laws
>
>
> Point.
The point is you are a moron.
>Game.
The game being watching you make a moron out of yourself.
>match.
The only match here is you and Phil- both lying, poorly educated and
people-skill-challenged trolls.
>Dumb ass.
Yes- that would describe you perfectly.
>
- 03-25-2004, 06:03 PM #21Bob SmithGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
"The Supreme Enchanter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes it is. and no, I am not lying like the last 100 posts you have made
> here about everyone else.
>
> Sense you are a minimum wager telephone operator, let me at least bring up
> public domain as fair use is a heated discussion. If a owner of a
copyright
> or trademark allows others to use it, then it falls into the public
domain.
> That is why companies make a big deal of piracy even though copying
software
> makes them money.
>
> Band Aid (ever wonder why it's band air brand? This is still
ongoing?),
> Star Wars (George Lucas sues the government and lost the Star Wars Defense
> package in the 80s), Xerox(other companies used the Xerox machine name,
but
> xerox had a year long ad campaign for photocopiers and keep the
trademark).
> These are the most obvious..
>
> Any work of art is copyrighted(like this message), however I am not
> claiming copyright protection on it and am sending it up to a public forum
> so I loose the holder. It becomes public domain and no one owns it. If
> what you say is try, then you responding back to me with the original
> message would violate my copyright on this work of art. Next time,
realize
> that there are a lot of people who know more than you minimum wager.
>
>
> Point. Game. match. Dumb ass.
All you've proven here is that you are an immature, childish little boy,
just like Phillipe. You come in here, top posting, posting HTML files in a
text based Usenet group, posting binary files to a Usenet group.
Typical Newbie ... Hell, you make WebTV posters look good.
Bob
- 03-26-2004, 12:43 AM #22O/SirisGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Sense you are a minimum wager telephone operator, let me at least bring u=
p
> public domain as fair use is a heated discussion. If a owner of a copyri=
ght
> or trademark allows others to use it, then it falls into the public domai=
n.
> That is why companies make a big deal of piracy even though copying softw=
are
> makes them money.
>=20
No, that's not true. And, despite your paranoia, Phillie is the only=20
person I've called a liar. Because he is one.
This is Public Domain:
A public domain work is a creative work that are not protected by=20
copyright and which may be freely used by everyone. The reasons that=20
the work is not protected include:=20
(1) the term of copyright for the work has expired;=20
(2) the author failed to satisfy statutory formalities to perfect the=20
copyright or=20
(3) the work is a work of the U.S. Government.
http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm
And this is Fair Use, although it gets quite involved:
The right set forth in Section 107 of the United States Copyright=20
Act, to use copyrighted materials for certain purposes, such as=20
criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and=20
research. Section 107 sets out four factors to be considered in=20
determining whether or not a particular use is fair: (1) the purpose=20
and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial=20
nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; (2) the nature of=20
the copyrighted work; (3) the amount and substantiality of the=20
portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and (4)=20
the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the=20
copyrighted work.
http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/definiti.shtml
Another good place to look is the US Government resource on this:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html
Unless you specifically, or everyone, if given permission to=20
reproduce in whole, then you are NOT protected by Fair Use or Public=20
Domain.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
- 03-26-2004, 04:15 AM #23Robert M.Guest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:
> No, that's not true. And, despite your paranoia, Phillie is the only
> person I've called a liar. Because he is one.
We all know you called Justin a LIAR; and have now proved you are
certainly one. Bue thats been obvious for just as long.
(September 03)
- 03-26-2004, 10:34 AM #24John R. CopelandGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
"O/Siris" <0siris@spr=EEntpcs.com> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
This is Public Domain:
<snip>
And this is Fair Use, although it gets quite involved:
<snip>
http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/definiti.shtml
Another good place to look is the US Government resource on this:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html
Unless you specifically, or everyone, if given permission to=20
reproduce in whole, then you are NOT protected by Fair Use or Public=20
Domain.
--=20
R=D8=DF
Well said, Rob. Coincidentally, today's Wall Street Journal, page W6,
has a book review on the topic, written by a technology lawyer in =
Washington.
He says the book traces the severe tightening of copyright laws
throughout the twentieth century.
One quote from Stewart Baker's review is worth repeating:
"Today, copyright cases are a lawyer's dream --
it's asbestos litigation for the Internet age."
Anyone who thinks otherwise is at least a quarter-century behind the =
times.
---JRC---
- 03-26-2004, 10:50 AM #25EricGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
[email protected] wrote:
<<Typical Newbie ... Hell, you make WebTV posters look good.>>
Hey now!
- 03-26-2004, 05:09 PM #26O/SirisGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> We all know you called Justin a LIAR; and have now proved you are=20
> certainly one. Bue thats been obvious for just as long.
> (September 03)
>=20
Justin's gone. You want to quote irrelevant history, go for it.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
- 03-26-2004, 05:28 PM #27Robert M.Guest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <0siris@sprīntpcs.com> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > We all know you called Justin a LIAR; and have now proved you are
> > certainly one. Bue thats been obvious for just as long.
> > (September 03)
> >
>
> Justin's gone. You want to quote irrelevant history, go for it.
It's very relevan tto anyone but you. You falsely called him a liar when
he merely recounted what happened to him in a Dallas area SprintPCS
store.
You say you never called anyone else a liar. I prove that untrue, so
yuou say its not relevant?
- 03-27-2004, 01:02 AM #28O/SirisGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> It's very relevan tto anyone but you. You falsely called him a liar when=
=20
> he merely recounted what happened to him in a Dallas area SprintPCS=20
> store.
>=20
> You say you never called anyone else a liar. I prove that untrue, so=20
> yuou say its not relevant?
>=20
I never called him a liar until he *did* lie. About me. I said his=20
story was inconsistent and didn't match what I knew to be policy. He=20
wound up taking that personally, that it was about him.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
- 03-27-2004, 07:13 AM #29Robert M.Guest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > It's very relevan tto anyone but you. You falsely called him a liar when
> > he merely recounted what happened to him in a Dallas area SprintPCS
> > store.
> >
> > You say you never called anyone else a liar. I prove that untrue, so
> > yuou say its not relevant?
> >
>
> I never called him a liar until he *did* lie. About me.
Then you confess to calling him a LIAR. Fine. You are then proven to
have lied here. And by the way you've also been calling me a liar
when I pointed out how I has improperly charged for Vision during my
free trial. So thats three folks you called LIAR now.
- 03-27-2004, 11:22 PM #30O/SirisGuest
Re: CTIA 2004 (I bring you usefull stuf not complaining)
In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Then you confess to calling him a LIAR. Fine. You are then proven to=20
> have lied here.
>=20
Sure, and you STILL haven't owned up to your blathering about some=20
fabricated "you" in your rants about the Nokia 6225.
Keep lying, liar. You've made it clear you've got nothing else to go=20
on.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
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