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  1. #16
    Chris Russell
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    It is only in the far SE portion of Oregon, approximately less than 1/10 th
    of the whole state. It is the same area that all the major carriers show a
    hole in coverage. And it is a pretty desolate area as I've been there in my
    18 wheeler before. Philly I know that you don't want to look at the whole
    picture-just pointing out one small portion doesn't give out accurate info.

    Chris

    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > O/Siris <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote:
    >
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> [email protected] says...
    >> > In article <M%[email protected]>,
    >> > "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > The original poster stated he also chose the F & C America $5 option.
    >> > > So
    >> > > he'll have coverage over most of the state of Oregon.
    >> >
    >> > No, He'd have coverage of most of the western part of the state for up
    >> > to 50% of his minutes.
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >> No, he'd have coverage, period. If he exceeds that 50% threshold
    >> twice within three months, we cancel F&CA. But we still cover him,
    >> up to however minutes in his plan.

    >
    > Fine 50 cents a minute is coverage? And in the eastern part of Oregon?






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  2. #17
    Robert M.
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It is only in the far SE portion of Oregon, approximately less than 1/10 th
    > of the whole state. It is the same area that all the major carriers show a
    > hole in coverage. And it is a pretty desolate area as I've been there in my
    > 18 wheeler before. I know that you don't want to look at the whole
    > picture-just pointing out one small portion doesn't give out accurate info.


    I understand, but still saying SprintPCS covers the whole state is
    misleading at best. You have to roam for most of it except for the I-5
    corridor and one other area, and then there's no coverage in the eastern
    part as you describe.

    So if one stays in Eugene, SprintPCS would be OK most likely although
    SprintPCS still has published no maps that would indicate local dead
    spots in "covered" areas.



  3. #18
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    >
    > So if one stays in Eugene, SprintPCS would be OK most likely although
    > SprintPCS still has published no maps that would indicate local dead
    > spots in "covered" areas.


    But the maps were good enough for you to quote coverage from. You are
    playing both sides of the argument AGAIN.





  4. #19
    Chris Russell
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    No I didn't ever say that he would have SPCS service all over the state. I
    said with F & C America $5 option, he would have coverage (SPCS and roaming
    implied). Most posters would understand the distinction.

    Chris

    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> It is only in the far SE portion of Oregon, approximately less than 1/10
    >> th
    >> of the whole state. It is the same area that all the major carriers show
    >> a
    >> hole in coverage. And it is a pretty desolate area as I've been there in
    >> my
    >> 18 wheeler before. I know that you don't want to look at the whole
    >> picture-just pointing out one small portion doesn't give out accurate
    >> info.

    >
    > I understand, but still saying SprintPCS covers the whole state is
    > misleading at best. You have to roam for most of it except for the I-5
    > corridor and one other area, and then there's no coverage in the eastern
    > part as you describe.
    >
    > So if one stays in Eugene, SprintPCS would be OK most likely although
    > SprintPCS still has published no maps that would indicate local dead
    > spots in "covered" areas.






  5. #20
    Robert M.
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > No I didn't ever say that he would have SPCS service all over the state. I
    > said with F & C America $5 option, he would have coverage (SPCS and roaming
    > implied). Most posters would understand the distinction.


    BUT one would be limited to 50% of their calls in the 90% of the
    geographic area that would be roaming (outside the I-5 corridor),
    and be subject to no coverage in parts of Oregon, and have no knowledge
    (as SprintPCS still hasn;t published proper maps) of dead zones,
    in areas like Eugene that ostensibly are fully covered by the Sprint
    network.

    And of course things like Vision, SMS etc, wouldn't work if one is
    roaming.



  6. #21
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > (as SprintPCS still hasn;t published proper maps)



    They were proper enough for you to offer your opinion, based on them.





  7. #22
    O/Siris
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > Fine 50 cents a minute is coverage? And in the eastern part of Oregon?
    >=20


    No. But that wasn't being discussed. What *you* brought up, and=20
    were incorrect about, was that F&CA only covers up to 50% usage. It=20
    covers completely while it's provisioned on a phone number. Go over=20
    that 50% threshold too much, and it gets removed, but it covers=20
    everything while it's there.

    A side note, just in case certain less than honorable try to "go=20
    there": This is referring to the "full" Free&Clear America add-on for=20
    $5. Not the smaller versions that the affiliates are offering. I=20
    believe that Oregon is a corporate-covered area where there *is*=20
    coverage, so only the $5 option is relevant to the poster's original=20
    question.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them



  8. #23
    Robert M.
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    In article <[email protected]>,
    O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    > > Fine 50 cents a minute is coverage? And in the eastern part of Oregon?
    > >

    >
    > No. But that wasn't being discussed. What *you* brought up, and
    > were incorrect about, was that F&CA only covers up to 50% usage. It
    > covers completely while it's provisioned on a phone number. Go over
    > that 50% threshold too much, and it gets removed, but it covers
    > everything while it's there.


    Duh. It gets removed and then its 50 cents for all roaming minutes.

    So again if one is outside the i-5 corridor, Sprint doesn't have
    coverage in its "National" network. So which is worse,
    if one is "roaming" most of the time?

    My misunderstanding, and they pay 50 cents per minute for overages, or
    your correction, and after 2 months paying 50 cents per minute
    for all your roaming minutes ???

    One just has to look at the SprinPCS coiverage m,ap to see low little of
    Oregon is covered by its own network.



  9. #24

    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    Our downtown Eugene office on W 7th is dead to Sprint, but other carriers
    have good reception.

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  10. #25
    Robert M.
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    wrote:

    > Our downtown Eugene office on W 7th is dead to Sprint, but other carriers
    > have good reception.


    Like I said, SprintPCS hasn't yet put out coverage maps that are honest.



  11. #26
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    Robert M. <[email protected]> wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Our downtown Eugene office on W 7th is dead to Sprint, but other carriers
    >> have good reception.

    >
    > Like I said, SprintPCS hasn't yet put out coverage maps that are honest.


    But they're good enough for you to base your uneducated opinion on? You know
    nothing about coverage in Oregon. (Or are you going to tell us you have
    another son there? I didn't believe that about Los Angeles, either.)

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  12. #27
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    >
    > One just has to look at the SprinPCS coiverage m,ap to see low little of
    > Oregon is covered by its own network.


    There you go again- pointing to a source that you have challenged in the
    past, because in this case it fits your needs. Hypocrite.





  13. #28
    Maynard
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    Thank you to all who replied, specifically those not inclined to
    bickering over semantics and the liberal interpretation of coverage
    maps.

    Although I won't call my experience applicable to everyone, I found
    Sprint's coverage to be much improved in the past few years, and I'd
    say that I was largely pleasantly surprised by the call quality, and
    overall experience while using their network. BUT, I am going to
    stick with Verizon. I found the dead-spots I encountered to be more
    than enough reason to stick with my so-so phone and (slightly) more
    expensive monthly costs.

    I drove to as many places as I could in the past week, just to see how
    the different providers did side-by-side. Again, I'm not trying to
    start a flame war, and I won't call this a real apples-to-apples
    comparison. So, take it for what it's worth. I drove up to Portland
    (along I-5), taking a few detours into places like Halsey, Corvallis,
    and Albany. I only had a service issue in one spot with either
    carrier (just north of Albany, both roamed analog, but even that was
    sketchy). Otherwise, the coverage maps in that respect were "honest".
    I then traveled over towards Mt. Hood, and as far as I went both were
    fine, but I got a couple Digital Roaming messages on my Sprint phone.

    I also went over to the coast (Eugene west to Florence, and then up to
    Newport) and both did ok for the most part. Verizon was strong or
    off, Sprint would get weaker and weaker and then suddenly jump up to 4
    of 4 bars when it would jump over to the digital roam. In addition, I
    also went east out of Eugene, through Springfield and up along the
    McKenzie river. I had similar results there: Verizon stayed strong
    the whole time, and Sprint would hold onto it's network, even when
    there were no signal-bars showing. Then, it would change to digital
    roam and signal strength would look just like my Verizon phone.

    So, in a nutshell, I found the occasional dead-spots to be bothersome,
    but I just couldn't live with what seems to be a large "fringe" area
    where Sprint holds on to it's network when roaming digital would give
    great coverage. I understand the 50% on-network roaming stipulation,
    but come on... it just put me in a situation where I could force it
    to roam analog (and get 1 bar!), but what a pain. I just picture
    myself either being out of service in an emergency or having to
    constantly apologize for my bad connection on business calls.

    Rambling aside, sound like anyone else's experience?



  14. #29
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon


    "Maynard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you to all who replied, specifically those not inclined to
    > bickering over semantics and the liberal interpretation of coverage
    > maps.


    Glad you were able to gleam some info. The only person who caused problems
    with this thread was Phillipe and his alter ego 60 ids.

    Bob





  15. #30
    O/Siris
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    Re: Sprint PCS service in Oregon

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > Rambling aside, sound like anyone else's experience?
    >=20
    >=20


    I'm not in Oregon, so I can't comment, other than to say it sounds=20
    like you did all the right things to decide what's best for you. =20
    Sorry that what was best for you wasn't SPCS.

    I'm curious, though. You mention areas where our phone was=20
    stubbornly holding a low SPCS signal, and that you worried about=20
    embarrassingly poor call quality there. However, you also said you=20
    were "pleasantly surprised" by the quality you experienced. In those=20
    stubborn areas, did you actually experience the issues that worried=20
    you, or were you simply taking the safe route?

    I hope you realize I'm not questioning what you experienced. I'm=20
    simply seeking to understand what it was you *did* experience.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them



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