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  1. #1
    TechGeek
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    According to phonescoop at
    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510

    This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.

    (Quoted from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510 )
    More info including pictures can be found there.

    ******************************************
    The first phone in the world to support voice and data on both CDMA
    and GSM networks. Key features include dual color displays, a
    megapixel camera with flash, MP3 player, memory card slot,
    speakerphone, advanced voice dialing, and e-mail client.

    Planned Availability: 2nd Half 2004

    This phone has not been released yet. All specifications and features
    are preliminary and subject to change.


    Specifications Compare vs...

    Modes CDMA 800 / CDMA 1900 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800

    Weight 4.06 oz (115g)

    Dimensions 3.70" x 1.93" x 0.92" (94mm x 49mm x 23mm)

    Form Factor Clamshell

    Battery Life Talk: 4.17 hours
    Standby: 185 hours (7.7 days)

    Battery Type LiIon

    Display Type: LCD (Color)
    Size: 176x220 pixels
    262,000 colors / TFT

    Platform / OS (N/A)

    Phone Book Capacity 500

    FCC ID ?



    See More: Quad mode phone?




  2. #2
    Mike
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    TechGeek wrote:
    > According to phonescoop at
    > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
    >
    > This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    > designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    > CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
    >


    Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
    phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.
    -mike




  3. #3

    Re: Quad mode phone?

    Thank you for the information.

    This phone, nor any phone, will ever "force" a major CDMA carrier, or
    any carrier, to work with another. It may encourage such cooperation,
    but it is unlikely.

    On 6 May 2004 07:16:30 -0700, [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

    >According to phonescoop at
    >http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
    >
    >This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    >designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    >CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
    >
    >(Quoted from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510 )
    >More info including pictures can be found there.
    >
    >******************************************
    >The first phone in the world to support voice and data on both CDMA
    >and GSM networks. Key features include dual color displays, a
    >megapixel camera with flash, MP3 player, memory card slot,
    >speakerphone, advanced voice dialing, and e-mail client.
    >
    >Planned Availability: 2nd Half 2004
    >
    >This phone has not been released yet. All specifications and features
    >are preliminary and subject to change.
    >
    >
    >Specifications Compare vs...
    >
    >Modes CDMA 800 / CDMA 1900 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800
    >
    >Weight 4.06 oz (115g)
    >
    >Dimensions 3.70" x 1.93" x 0.92" (94mm x 49mm x 23mm)
    >
    >Form Factor Clamshell
    >
    >Battery Life Talk: 4.17 hours
    >Standby: 185 hours (7.7 days)
    >
    >Battery Type LiIon
    >
    >Display Type: LCD (Color)
    >Size: 176x220 pixels
    >262,000 colors / TFT
    >
    >Platform / OS (N/A)
    >
    >Phone Book Capacity 500
    >
    >FCC ID ?





  4. #4
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Quad mode phone?


    "TechGeek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > According to phonescoop at
    > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
    >
    > This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    > designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    > CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
    >

    Well, Cingular & ATT both use 800 & 1900 freqs. The GSM freqs listed are 900
    & 1800, which are used in Europe. Right?

    Bob





  5. #5
    Robert M.
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

    > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510


    Back last January this was talked about as a phone for Verizon,
    as their 45% partner Vodaphone runs GSM in Europe, and they'd like to
    have a phone for use on both sides of the Atlantic.

    There's no major advantage for a SprintPCS phone to do GSM.



  6. #6
    Brsmnky007
    Guest

    Re: Quad mode phone?

    > This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    > designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    > CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.


    It looks like the only frequencies that the phone supports as far as GSM
    is concerned are European frequencies. It doesn't look like the phone is
    designed as a American GSM roaming phone, but rather to provide world
    roaming for users of the American CDMA network.





  7. #7
    Mark W. Oots
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    Re: Quad mode phone?


    "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > TechGeek wrote:
    > > According to phonescoop at
    > > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
    > >
    > > This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    > > designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    > > CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
    > >

    >
    > Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
    > phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.
    > -mike
    >

    Looks to me like a Verizon phone for overseas roaming. The GSM bands
    (900/1800) aren't U.S. bands. It won't force any CDMA company to work with
    any GSM company in the U.S.

    Mark


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  8. #8
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In alt.cellular Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
    > phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.


    Verizon does not have any GSM coverage.

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  9. #9
    Mike
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    TechGeek wrote:
    > According to phonescoop at
    > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
    >
    > This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    > designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    > CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.



    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...ubles-up_x.htm




  10. #10
    Robert M.
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

    > http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...doubles-up_x.h
    > tm


    Thank you. That is the conformation story to the earlier story I vaguely
    remembered.



  11. #11
    Robert M.
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In alt.cellular Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
    > > phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.

    >
    > Verizon does not have any GSM coverage.


    But their 45% share holder Vodaphone does in Europe, and its for them
    that this phone is coming forth:

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...izon-doubles-u
    p_x.htm



  12. #12
    ll
    Guest

    Re: Quad mode phone?

    > Cingular & ATT both use 800 & 1900 freqs.
    > The GSM freqs listed are 900 & 1800, which are used in Europe.


    Why are U.S. GSM frequencies 800/1900 and European GSM is 900/1800?



  13. #13
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    ll <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > Cingular & ATT both use 800 & 1900 freqs.
    > > The GSM freqs listed are 900 & 1800, which are used in Europe.

    >
    > Why are U.S. GSM frequencies 800/1900 and European GSM is 900/1800?


    Happenstance



  14. #14
    CharlesH
    Guest

    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Thank you for the information.
    >
    >This phone, nor any phone, will ever "force" a major CDMA carrier, or
    >any carrier, to work with another. It may encourage such cooperation,
    >but it is unlikely.
    >
    >On 6 May 2004 07:16:30 -0700, [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
    >
    >>According to phonescoop at
    >>http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
    >>
    >>This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
    >>designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    >>CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
    >>
    >>(Quoted from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510 )
    >>More info including pictures can be found there.

    << SNIP>>
    >>Modes CDMA 800 / CDMA 1900 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800


    Note that this phone will NOT allow one to roam on US GSM carriers,
    since it has GSM functionality only on the non-US GSM bands.
    It is intended ONLY to allow US CDMA users to roam on overseas
    GSM systems, rather than having to get a separate GSM phone. It will
    not work on GSM systems in the US.



  15. #15
    Robert M.
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    Re: Quad mode phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:

    > >when it does come out, it will force one of the major
    > >CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.

    >
    > Why would you say that?


    To be a troll.



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