Sanyo 5500 (VM4500) and USB cable

I'm not going to use it in that fashion, for now, I'm just going to stick
with using it when I need to check something and the landline is in use by
someone else. I was just giving my situation for the 'perfect world' type
scenario.

Whoever suggested that I should get the FD to pay for DirectWay was pretty
funny.

"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Røbert M" wrote:
> >
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "rick" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I realize I pay $15/month for Vision, but that DOES NOT allow me to
use this
> > > thing the way I want to.
> > >
> > > Here's my situation.
> > >
> > > I work at an airport fire department. We are too far from telco to get
DSL
> > > and too far off the road to have cable run to the station (TWarner
said
> > > $200K to run it). I am there 10 days a month. I do most of my
websurfing at
> > > night 6pm - 10pm.. There are no hotspots for me to link up to.
Therefore, my
> > > only option is painfully slow dialup (41.2kpbs). Ideally, I'd like to
be
> > > able to use my cell/modem as my internet service for those few hours a
> > > month. I'm not talking about downloading mp3s or crap like that - just
> > > general surfing (this newsgroup, email, online banks, a couple forums,
etc).
> > > Also, I have a couple other guys at the station that like to check
their
> > > email and whatnot, so I have to share the phoneline with them. If I
was able
> > > to use this service, I could take myself out of that dialup loop and
be
> > > surfing at a better rate..
> > >
> > > For that ability, I am willing to pony up another $20.
> >
> > Well for now, you can likely use your cell phone as a modem with no
> > difficulty.
>
> At 4 hours per night, you can bet he'll get "nailed."
>
> Larry

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"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

<Snipped>
>
> 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on
"nailed!"
>
> Larry

Although I have no way of proving how much is too much, I'm in agreement
with Larry. 40 hours a month of Vision, with a phone tethered to a laptop,
is replacing an ISP. Even with just email, surfing and going on some forums,
that's a lot of KBs an hour, especially if the user goes to graphic
intensive sites.

Bob

Bob Smith wrote:
>
> "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> <Snipped>
> >
> > 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on
> "nailed!"
> >
> > Larry
>
> Although I have no way of proving how much is too much, I'm in agreement
> with Larry. 40 hours a month of Vision, with a phone tethered to a laptop,
> is replacing an ISP. Even with just email, surfing and going on some forums,
> that's a lot of KBs an hour, especially if the user goes to graphic
> intensive sites.

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it'd sure be nice if Sprint would
just give us a small, yet reasonable, amount of "tethered Vision" included
in the Vision package.

My biggest concern is that one day they'll say, "Enough is enough. We've
turned our heads, regarding small usage, but people are taking advantage."
and start charging for *every* bit of usage.

Larry

"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Donkey Agony wrote:
>> 4 hours a night for 10 days a month for just email, the web, and
>> newsgroups? I doubt very seriously he'd get "nailed" (as you put =
it).
>> I for one have done that kind of traffic before with no problem.
>=20
> 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on =
"nailed!"

It depends. If the PC is constantly browsing (downloading new web =
pages)
during those 4 hours, it could add up to a lot of megabytes. If it is =
used
only sporadically during that 4 hour shift, then it should not be a =
problem.

--=20

John Richards

"Bill T" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> I can't seem to find drivers for the USB-to-phone set-up. Sanyo.com =
doesn't=20
> have them (that I could see), and futuredial.com requires a serial =
number=20
> from one of their products before allowing downloads.

That must be a rather recent requirement. Futuredial.com always used to
allow unfettered access to the USB drivers.

--=20

John Richards

John Richards wrote:
>
> "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > Donkey Agony wrote:
> >> 4 hours a night for 10 days a month for just email, the web, and
> >> newsgroups? I doubt very seriously he'd get "nailed" (as you put it).
> >> I for one have done that kind of traffic before with no problem.
> >
> > 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on "nailed!"
>
> It depends. If the PC is constantly browsing (downloading new web pages)
> during those 4 hours, it could add up to a lot of megabytes. If it is used
> only sporadically during that 4 hour shift, then it should not be a problem.

Question...

While Sprint's voice connections are based on time, and their Vision
connections are based on the amount of data transferred, what happens
when the phone is used a modem?

Are we sure that connections are based on data and *not* time?

larry

"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> John Richards wrote:
>>=20
>> "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
>> > Donkey Agony wrote:
>> >> 4 hours a night for 10 days a month for just email, the web, and
>> >> newsgroups? I doubt very seriously he'd get "nailed" (as you put =
it).
>> >> I for one have done that kind of traffic before with no problem.
>> >
>> > 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still =
on "nailed!"
>>=20
>> It depends. If the PC is constantly browsing (downloading new web =
pages)
>> during those 4 hours, it could add up to a lot of megabytes. If it =
is used
>> only sporadically during that 4 hour shift, then it should not be a =
problem.
>=20
> Question...
>=20
> While Sprint's voice connections are based on time, and their Vision
> connections are based on the amount of data transferred, what happens
> when the phone is used a modem?
>=20
> Are we sure that connections are based on data and *not* time?

Yes, if you dial #777 it's a Vision data connection, which is charged by
the number of kilobytes downloaded (assuming you have no Vision pack =
plan).
If you dial #2932 it's a Wireless Web data connection which is charged =
by
minutes. I'm not sure if a Vision phone will even connect to #2932.

--=20

John Richards

In article <[email protected]>,
Lawrence Glasser <[email protected]> wrote:

> John Richards wrote:
> >
> > "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Donkey Agony wrote:
> > >> 4 hours a night for 10 days a month for just email, the web, and
> > >> newsgroups? I doubt very seriously he'd get "nailed" (as you put it).
> > >> I for one have done that kind of traffic before with no problem.
> > >
> > > 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on
> > > "nailed!"
> >
> > It depends. If the PC is constantly browsing (downloading new web pages)
> > during those 4 hours, it could add up to a lot of megabytes. If it is used
> > only sporadically during that 4 hour shift, then it should not be a
> > problem.
>
> Question...
>
> While Sprint's voice connections are based on time, and their Vision
> connections are based on the amount of data transferred, what happens
> when the phone is used a modem?
>
> Are we sure that connections are based on data and *not* time?
>
> larry

Who are you trying to convince he'll be nailed? Yourself?

Osiris said one he knew of getting nailed had used over 10 Gig a month.


From: O/Siris ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Use PCS for internect connection via laptop???
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs
Date: 2004-04-20 21:13:58 PST


Vision phones are capable of higher connection speeds, and far more
folks have reported pretty decent speeds than otherwise. However,
this kind of use of a Vision phone isn't supported. To use it that
way, with SPCS as your provider, will (if you get caught) get your
unlimited Vision pack removed, and then you pay that penny per KB I
mentioned above. For the wording that applies, look for "Terms &
Conditions" at the bottom of http://www.sprintpcs.com and then search
the page that pops up for "connection kit".

So far, the only customers I've seen enforced under this policy have
been obvious examples. One of them over 10GB in a month. Rumors
abound about where the limit is that gets attention. I'd do you a
disservice to add to those rumors, because that's all I have myself.
Just be aware of the consequences if you move to that Vision phone
and do it.
--
R?

"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Richards wrote:
> >
> > "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > > Donkey Agony wrote:
> > >> 4 hours a night for 10 days a month for just email, the web, and
> > >> newsgroups? I doubt very seriously he'd get "nailed" (as you put
it).
> > >> I for one have done that kind of traffic before with no problem.
> > >
> > > 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on
"nailed!"
> >
> > It depends. If the PC is constantly browsing (downloading new web
pages)
> > during those 4 hours, it could add up to a lot of megabytes. If it is
used
> > only sporadically during that 4 hour shift, then it should not be a
problem.
>
> Question...
>
> While Sprint's voice connections are based on time, and their Vision
> connections are based on the amount of data transferred, what happens
> when the phone is used a modem?
>
> Are we sure that connections are based on data and *not* time?
>
> larry

If the phone has the capability to be used as a modem (not dialing into
#777), but dialed into another number, like a local pop, or a fax number,
it's going to be $0.39/min, including $0.25/min. LD if it's a LD call.

Now, in saying that, I don't know any current Vision phone, which can be
used as a modem. The pre 3G phones could by changing the setting from Voice
to Data or Fax. If anyone does know any Vision phones that can, please post
the model #'s.

Bob

Robert M wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Lawrence Glasser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > John Richards wrote:
> > >
> > > "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Donkey Agony wrote:
> > > >> 4 hours a night for 10 days a month for just email, the web, and
> > > >> newsgroups? I doubt very seriously he'd get "nailed" (as you put it).
> > > >> I for one have done that kind of traffic before with no problem.
> > > >
> > > > 40 hours per month, using one's phone as a modem, my money's still on
> > > > "nailed!"
> > >
> > > It depends. If the PC is constantly browsing (downloading new web pages)
> > > during those 4 hours, it could add up to a lot of megabytes. If it is used
> > > only sporadically during that 4 hour shift, then it should not be a
> > > problem.
> >
> > Question...
> >
> > While Sprint's voice connections are based on time, and their Vision
> > connections are based on the amount of data transferred, what happens
> > when the phone is used a modem?
> >
> > Are we sure that connections are based on data and *not* time?
> >
> > larry
>
> Who are you trying to convince he'll be nailed? Yourself?

It's referred to as "We're having a discussion."

If you don't care to be involved, don't.

Larry

In article <[email protected]>,
Lawrence Glasser <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Who are you trying to convince he'll be nailed? Yourself?

> It's referred to as "We're having a discussion."
>
> If you don't care to be involved, don't.
>
> Larry

But you keep cutting out evidence to the contrary.

With a 5 GB/month current limit that equals 125 megabyte a day when used
20 days a month, or 30+ megabytes an hour when used 4 hours a day. The
SprintPCS network wont even transmit data that fast.

At a more typical 8 to 10 mgs an hour thats 800 Megs a month.

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Now, in saying that, I don't know any current Vision phone, which can =
be
> used as a modem. The pre 3G phones could by changing the setting from =
Voice
> to Data or Fax. If anyone does know any Vision phones that can, =
please post
> the model #'s.

With my 2G Samsung 8500, there was no setting to be changed. It went
to data mode automatically when dialing #2932. I too would be
interested in knowing if any Vision phones can use the #2932 data
connection, and if so, how that would be charged.

--=20

John Richards

"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now, in saying that, I don't know any current Vision phone, which can be
> used as a modem. The pre 3G phones could by changing the setting from
Voice
> to Data or Fax. If anyone does know any Vision phones that can, please
post
> the model #'s.

With my 2G Samsung 8500, there was no setting to be changed. It went
to data mode automatically when dialing #2932. I too would be
interested in knowing if any Vision phones can use the #2932 data
connection, and if so, how that would be charged.

My 3500 as well would go direct to data when dialing #2932.. But it also has
a setting where I can change it to Data / Fax from the settings screen.

Bob