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- 05-08-2004, 04:49 AM #1The Babynous CultGuest
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hi hi hi...!!!
i really should not have gotten a cell phone...
i just never talk on the phone, but i was thinking, there
are certain things about having one that would be very convenient...
so, from the moment i got my 8100, Sprint and the local
Smart Wireless Kiosk were just endlessly messing with me,
everytime, i would think, ok, we've got that straighened
out, now it will be smooth sailing, but then - BANG - they
would do it again...! just one thing after anohter...
in the 3 weeks that i had the phone, my service was cut off
3 times, and i'm not talking about dropped calls, i talking
about being notififed that my service has been terminated
due to non-payment... weeks before my first bill was due...!
then i had to change my number becasue i was getting all
these calls, bznz calls for the person that last had my
number... ugly, demanding calls... 'Where in the hell is
Paul, i know hes there... i NEED TO TALK TO HIM...!' and so
on... ( Plus lots of other petty annoyances, deceptions, and
taking advantage of my sweet and trusting nature...! )
so after 3 weeks, 1 week past the 2 weeks; 'Return with no
questions asked for any reason' i quit and now have to pay
the Smart Wireless store $300 for the $20 phone & Sprint
$150 for not loving them enough.
Questions:
What is the Bluebook (???) price for a Sanyo 8100
Or if there is no Bluebook listing for Cell pHones, what is
the WholeSale price or PRODUCTION COST of a Sanyo 8100...
What is the THEORY behind the $150 Cancelation Fee...?
Is there any other Consumer Product/Service that has
anything like this...??? It's been my experience in the past
that when you're unhappy with some product or service, the
company will bend over backwards to straighten it out, and
absorb the 'bad blood' -- Sprint is exactly the opposite...!
what exactly have a stolen from them that costs $150...???
is Sprint more evil MicroSoft... is that what they're
shooting for...???
sproogles...
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- 05-08-2004, 05:19 AM #2Nebby00007Guest
Re: i really should not...
You could sell the Sanyo 8100 on Ebay for around $100.
- 05-08-2004, 06:04 AM #3John S.Guest
Re: i really should not...
>is Sprint more evil MicroSoft...
How is Microsoft evil.
Surely you aren't one of those that believe that capitalism isn't fair?
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- 05-08-2004, 06:58 AM #4Bobby TGuest
Re: i really should not...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
> >is Sprint more evil MicroSoft...
>
> How is Microsoft evil.
>
> Surely you aren't one of those that believe that capitalism isn't fair?
Microsoft was convicted of not playing fair (in case your forgot, here
is the link to their conviction http://usvms.gpo.gov/)
- 05-08-2004, 09:11 AM #5MikeGuest
Re: i really should not...
The Babynous Cult wrote:
> sproogles...
What does that mean?!?
-mike
- 05-08-2004, 09:50 AM #6Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
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The Babynous Cult <[email protected]> wrote:
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>so after 3 weeks, 1 week past the 2 weeks; 'Return with no
>questions asked for any reason' i quit and now have to pay
>the Smart Wireless store $300 for the $20 phone & Sprint
>$150 for not loving them enough.
>
The big problem, you waited until 3 weeks are up. That is your mistake,
especially when all the signs were there early on that you had an issue.
I would have been in there cancelling before the 14 days. Granted, you
have legitimate problems, but the early-termination fees are something
that you could have avoided, so I highly doubt you will get the fees
back from the kiosk (never buy cellular equipment from resellers) and
from Sprint PCS. You can not blame them for you not cancelling on time.
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- 05-08-2004, 09:52 AM #7Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
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John S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>is Sprint more evil MicroSoft...
>
> How is Microsoft evil.
>
> Surely you aren't one of those that believe that capitalism isn't fair?
>
Microsoft bashing is a fad, usually praised by highschool linux geeks
who want to be IN with the larger internet crowd. SCO is the company to
bash if you want to do some bashing.
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- 05-08-2004, 09:54 AM #8Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
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Bobby T <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Microsoft was convicted of not playing fair (in case your forgot, here
> is the link to their conviction http://usvms.gpo.gov/)
Also, do not forget that politics play a HUGE part in this type case.
State Attorney Generals often become Governors based upon settlements in
cases like this. The benefits of success are even bigger at the federal
level. Never once should you lose site of the fact that the result of
many cases has more to do with politics than it does with law.
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- 05-08-2004, 10:55 AM #9GreggGuest
Re: i really should not...
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in news:409d01ce$0$178
[email protected]:
> (never buy cellular equipment from resellers)
Could you explain why?
Thanks.
Gregg
- 05-08-2004, 12:14 PM #10Steven J SobolGuest
Re: i really should not...
Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Microsoft bashing is a fad, usually praised by highschool linux geeks
> who want to be IN with the larger internet crowd. SCO is the company to
> bash if you want to do some bashing.
That's simplifying quite a bit - Microsoft has done its share of crappy
stuff. However, I do agree that SCO is the company to bash these days. I've
never seen a bunch of bigger morons.
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- 05-08-2004, 12:24 PM #11Bobby TGuest
Re: i really should not...
In article <[email protected]>,
Gregg <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in news:409d01ce$0$178
> [email protected]:
>
> > (never buy cellular equipment from resellers)
>
> Could you explain why?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gregg
Pluses and minuses of resellers:
If they in (as in this case) have extra caveats in the contract you sign
(in this case $300 ETF) it can bite you if you do not fulfill the
contract. Many folks do not have a problem with resellers as the reseller
may effectively split their commission with the customer by lowering the
price of the phone or by giving a free car charger and/or case and/or
hands free kit with the phone. http://www.intelenetwireless.com is such
a reseller. They may also have in stock models of phones that SprintPCS
might temporarily be out of, or have recently discontinued.
- 05-08-2004, 12:46 PM #12MikeGuest
Re: i really should not...
Bobby T wrote:
> Pluses and minuses of resellers:
>
> If they in (as in this case) have extra caveats in the contract you sign
> (in this case $300 ETF) it can bite you if you do not fulfill the
> contract. Many folks do not have a problem with resellers as the reseller
> may effectively split their commission with the customer by lowering the
> price of the phone or by giving a free car charger and/or case and/or
> hands free kit with the phone. http://www.intelenetwireless.com is such
> a reseller. They may also have in stock models of phones that SprintPCS
> might temporarily be out of, or have recently discontinued.
I think reseller commission chargebacks only happen within six months of
contract inception, so many won't care after that.
That means sproogles might do better to keep service at $35/mo if the
terms of the agreement with the kiosk only requires six months. Vacation
plans may also satisfy a reseller, though I'm not sure.
-mike
- 05-09-2004, 01:39 AM #13The Babynous CultGuest
Re: i really should not...
"John S." wrote:
>
> >is Sprint more evil MicroSoft...
>
> How is Microsoft evil.
>
> Surely you aren't one of those that believe that capitalism isn't fair?
>
i'm a capitalist, but if you're going to organize a social
heirarchy based on personal greed, you should have a goal of
'infinite greed'.
This idea is founded on the premise the trouble with the
world is not the people are too greedy, the trouble with the
world is that people, and corporations, are not greedy
enough. They are often content to waste their resources and
causually ignore oportunities to exploit the people &
environment that gawd has given them.
In short, fintie greed is the bane of short sightedness.
Anyways, if MircoSoft were to simply create a fine product,
and was interested in created a better world for themselves
and their children, then that form of capitalism would be admirable...
but they are not, they are grabbing at a few pennies, ( alot
of pennies ), while destroying the future, their 'dirty
tricks' and suppression of products and services that would
endanger their lame products & services are sellign short
their own future.
A world without MircroSoft ( or equivalent ) would be a much
richer technological world, and with greater diversity, the
multitude of companies would probably have been forced to
agree to a genuine set of universal standards for all
devices to communicate with one another, instead of each
individual product having it's own protocols...
MircoSoft has destroyed the Future, Your children will live
in a smaller, feebler world because of them.
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- 05-09-2004, 02:06 AM #14The Babynous CultGuest
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> ...
> > a reseller. They may also have in stock models of phones that SprintPCS
> > might temporarily be out of, or have recently discontinued.
>
> I think reseller commission chargebacks only happen within six months of
> contract inception, so many won't care after that.
> That means sproogles might do better to keep service at $35/mo if the
> terms of the agreement with the kiosk only requires six months. Vacation
> plans may also satisfy a reseller, though I'm not sure.
> -mike
Sproogles is a Salutation, not a Nomclemature.
When i began to realize what all the penalties were going to
cost me, instead of schemeing to 'outwit them' i instead
became more & more determined to get the hell away from
Sprint as fast as i could, damn the consequences...!
sproogles...
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- 05-09-2004, 07:28 AM #15EricGuest
Re: i really should not...
(The=A0Babynous=A0Cult) wrote:
<<What is the THEORY behind the $150 Cancelation Fee...? Is there any
other Consumer Product/Service that has anything like this...??? It's
been my experience in the past that when you're unhappy with some
product or service, the company will bend over backwards to straighten
it out, and absorb the 'bad blood' -- Sprint is exactly the opposite...!
what exactly have a stolen from them that costs $150...??? >>
hi hi hi...
Apparently, you have no experience in the real world in today's
standards because there are *lots* of companies that charge early
cancellation fees... its not limited to Sprint. If you sign up for
internet service to qualify for an instant rebate (like at stores like
Best Buy), you will get hit with an early cancellation fee if you don't
ride it out for a year or two. Many DSL/Cable internet packages that
include free or discounted hardware require users to sign an agreement
or be faced with a cancellation fee.
Sprint actually has one of the lowest Early Termination Fees in
comparison to Verizon ($175 per line) and T-Mobile ($200 per line). All
cellular companies give you 14 or 30 days (depending on the carrier) to
try out their service and see if its coverage meets your needs. If
coverage serverely deteriorates after that period, then you may have a
legit beef to cancel without an ETF after the trial period. But if
their service is horrible from day one and you wait around and "hope" it
gets better... than you would be responsible for the ETF fees. If you
return with the trial period, you will get your costs refunded (minus
service used and activation fees).
Make sure you read the fine print on any kind of promo or agreement you
sign. Everyone from cable companies to internet companies to cellular
companies are charging an early termination fee. Buyer Beware.
Eric
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