add F&C America roaming for one month?

[email protected] wrote:
> In article
> <Y2FybmFs.967e56bf130728fedeb81de48de369ae@1087143470.nulluser.com>, "dave" <>
> wrote:
>
>>Any one know if you can add the $5/mo roaming charge for
>>"one month only"?
>
>
> I believe it is permitted to put on FCA for just one month. The $5 version may
> not be available to affliate markets. Also beware that since the roaming usage
> data is of course collected by another carrier first, then transmitted to
> Sprint for billing, that it can take days or weeks for this info to be
> exchanged and that roaming usage hits your account only AFTER Sprint
> has received it from the other carriers. That is, you get charged when the
> usage data hits your account, NOT the actual point in time of your usage.
> Therefore, particularly if your roaming usage is towards the end of your
> billing cycle, you may need to leave on FCA for two months, to fully cover
> roaming usage from the prior month.

Insightful, but only partly valid.
From the Sprint T&Cs:

Invoicing. Invoicing cycles are approximately 30 days in length.
Invoicing cycles and dates may change from time to time. Except as
otherwise provided in your Service Plan, monthly recurring charges
(MRCs) are invoiced one invoicing cycle in advance. Charges for Services
are usually invoiced as soon as possible after the charges accrue. We
may, however, invoice you for usage and charges occurring before the
invoicing cycle being invoiced, if they were not previously invoiced. If
you are invoiced for usage incurred during a prior invoicing cycle,
those minutes will be applied to your Service Plan minutes for the
current invoicing cycle. However, if you change your PCS Service Plan
between the time the usage was incurred and the beginning of the current
invoicing cycle, those minutes from the prior invoicing cycle will be
charged at the rate per minute for usage over included minutes provided
in the Service Plan in effect at the time the usage was incurred.

So, if I have F&C America on month one, roam during that month and the
roaming is reported during month two, and if I've canceled F&C America
that monrh, I will be billed under the F&C America rate, but use minutes
from my month two bucket. For most plans, that means I'd use month two
daytime minutes, but no per-minute roaming charges.

-mike

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Bob Smith wrote:
> "Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article
>>><Y2FybmFs.967e56bf130728fedeb81de48de369ae@1087143470.nulluser.com>,
>
> "dave"
>
>>><>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Any one know if you can add the $5/mo roaming charge for
>>>>"one month only"?
>>>
>>>I believe it is permitted to put on FCA for just one month. The $5
>
> version
>
>>>may
>>>not be available to affliate markets. Also beware that since the roaming
>>>usage
>>>data is of course collected by another carrier first, then transmitted
>
> to
>
>>>Sprint for billing, that it can take days or weeks for this info to be
>>>exchanged and that roaming usage hits your account only AFTER Sprint
>>>has received it from the other carriers. That is, you get charged when
>
> the
>
>>>usage data hits your account, NOT the actual point in time of your
>
> usage.
>
>>>Therefore, particularly if your roaming usage is towards the end of your
>>>billing cycle, you may need to leave on FCA for two months, to fully
>
> cover
>
>>>roaming usage from the prior month.
>>
>>Heaven forfend SprintPCS be customer friendly and billing according to
>>when the time was used. Didn't AT&T get sued over such a delayed billing
>>practice?
>
>
> Forfend? That's a bit of an old word ... So, you are blaming SPCS for
> another carrier's delay in sending their bill to them for roaming calls?
> Last time I was in the Cayman Islands, it took 2 to 3 months for the calls
> to show up.
>
> Once again, another false complaint Phillipe ...
>
> Bob
>
>

Imagine the cost to Srint to monkey around with a $5 option for one
month and then the tighta.s cancels.

> Bob Smith wrote:
> > "Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>In article <[email protected]>,
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article
> >>><Y2FybmFs.967e56bf130728fedeb81de48de369ae@1087143470.nulluser.com>,
> >
> > "dave"
> >
> >>><>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Any one know if you can add the $5/mo roaming charge for
> >>>>"one month only"?
> >>>
> >>>I believe it is permitted to put on FCA for just one month. The $5
> >
> > version
> >
> >>>may
> >>>not be available to affliate markets. Also beware that since the roaming
> >>>usage
> >>>data is of course collected by another carrier first, then transmitted
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>Sprint for billing, that it can take days or weeks for this info to be
> >>>exchanged and that roaming usage hits your account only AFTER Sprint
> >>>has received it from the other carriers. That is, you get charged when
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>usage data hits your account, NOT the actual point in time of your
> >
> > usage.
> >
> >>>Therefore, particularly if your roaming usage is towards the end of your
> >>>billing cycle, you may need to leave on FCA for two months, to fully
> >
> > cover
> >
> >>>roaming usage from the prior month.
> >>
> >>Heaven forfend SprintPCS be customer friendly and billing according to
> >>when the time was used. Didn't AT&T get sued over such a delayed billing
> >>practice?
> >
> >
> > Forfend? That's a bit of an old word ... So, you are blaming SPCS for
> > another carrier's delay in sending their bill to them for roaming calls?
> > Last time I was in the Cayman Islands, it took 2 to 3 months for the calls
> > to show up.
> >



Forfend or not, AT&T paid heavily.

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Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Heaven forfend SprintPCS be customer friendly and billing according to
>> when the time was used. Didn't AT&T get sued over such a delayed billing
>> practice?
>
> Forfend? That's a bit of an old word ... So, you are blaming SPCS for
> another carrier's delay in sending their bill to them for roaming calls?
> Last time I was in the Cayman Islands, it took 2 to 3 months for the calls
> to show up.
>

Actually, I would have to agree with Phillip on this one. There is
absolutely NO reason why Sprint PCS can not see that if a given call
took place during a particular time frame, that it can not actually
apply it to the plan that was in force at that particular time.

I had this problem back when they offered me the $10 for 50 roaming
minutes. I used it for one month and the charges didn't even all arive
until the next. I was able to call and get them to fix it though, as it
was only a couple of minutes.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Heaven forfend SprintPCS be customer friendly and billing according to
> >> when the time was used. Didn't AT&T get sued over such a delayed
billing
> >> practice?
> >
> > Forfend? That's a bit of an old word ... So, you are blaming SPCS for
> > another carrier's delay in sending their bill to them for roaming calls?
> > Last time I was in the Cayman Islands, it took 2 to 3 months for the
calls
> > to show up.
> >
>
> Actually, I would have to agree with Phillip on this one. There is
> absolutely NO reason why Sprint PCS can not see that if a given call
> took place during a particular time frame, that it can not actually
> apply it to the plan that was in force at that particular time.
>
> I had this problem back when they offered me the $10 for 50 roaming
> minutes. I used it for one month and the charges didn't even all arive
> until the next. I was able to call and get them to fix it though, as it
> was only a couple of minutes.

Go back and see my prior comments Tom. I didn't agree or disagree with
Phillipe, I just said he was creating a false argument / complaint, as he
has in the past. Plus, per your comments above, they did take the extra step
and apply the credit.

Bob

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Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Forfend? That's a bit of an old word ... So, you are blaming SPCS for
>> > another carrier's delay in sending their bill to them for roaming calls?
>> > Last time I was in the Cayman Islands, it took 2 to 3 months for the
> calls
>> > to show up.
>> >
>>
>> Actually, I would have to agree with Phillip on this one. There is
>> absolutely NO reason why Sprint PCS can not see that if a given call
>> took place during a particular time frame, that it can not actually
>> apply it to the plan that was in force at that particular time.
>>
>> I had this problem back when they offered me the $10 for 50 roaming
>> minutes. I used it for one month and the charges didn't even all arive
>> until the next. I was able to call and get them to fix it though, as it
>> was only a couple of minutes.
>
> Go back and see my prior comments Tom. I didn't agree or disagree with
> Phillipe, I just said he was creating a false argument / complaint, as he
> has in the past. Plus, per your comments above, they did take the extra step
> and apply the credit.
>

Bob ... I left your prior comments exactly as you wrote them [above] and
it does not look like you supported the "false argument" accusation. It
does look to me like Phillip was saying what I agreed with, and that is
that Sprint PCS should credit minutes used to the plan month in which
they were used (meaing if I roam in July but don't get billed for the
minutes until September and I have since dropped F&CA, that is should
still apply to my F&CA as I had it in June at the time that I roamed).

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Thomas T. Veldhouse
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Think you got it wrong.

"those minutes from the prior invoicing cycle will be
charged at the rate per minute for usage over included minutes provided
in the Service Plan in effect at the time the usage was incurred."

will be charged at the rate per minute for usage 'over' included minutes
provided= $.40/min over included mins currently on F&C plans of all types.

Chris

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
> > In article
> > <Y2FybmFs.967e56bf130728fedeb81de48de369ae@1087143470.nulluser.com>,
"dave" <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Any one know if you can add the $5/mo roaming charge for
> >>"one month only"?
> >
> >
> > I believe it is permitted to put on FCA for just one month. The $5
version may
> > not be available to affliate markets. Also beware that since the roaming
usage
> > data is of course collected by another carrier first, then transmitted
to
> > Sprint for billing, that it can take days or weeks for this info to be
> > exchanged and that roaming usage hits your account only AFTER Sprint
> > has received it from the other carriers. That is, you get charged when
the
> > usage data hits your account, NOT the actual point in time of your
usage.
> > Therefore, particularly if your roaming usage is towards the end of your
> > billing cycle, you may need to leave on FCA for two months, to fully
cover
> > roaming usage from the prior month.
>
> Insightful, but only partly valid.
> From the Sprint T&Cs:
>
> Invoicing. Invoicing cycles are approximately 30 days in length.
> Invoicing cycles and dates may change from time to time. Except as
> otherwise provided in your Service Plan, monthly recurring charges
> (MRCs) are invoiced one invoicing cycle in advance. Charges for Services
> are usually invoiced as soon as possible after the charges accrue. We
> may, however, invoice you for usage and charges occurring before the
> invoicing cycle being invoiced, if they were not previously invoiced. If
> you are invoiced for usage incurred during a prior invoicing cycle,
> those minutes will be applied to your Service Plan minutes for the
> current invoicing cycle. However, if you change your PCS Service Plan
> between the time the usage was incurred and the beginning of the current
> invoicing cycle, those minutes from the prior invoicing cycle will be
> charged at the rate per minute for usage over included minutes provided
> in the Service Plan in effect at the time the usage was incurred.
>
> So, if I have F&C America on month one, roam during that month and the
> roaming is reported during month two, and if I've canceled F&C America
> that monrh, I will be billed under the F&C America rate, but use minutes
> from my month two bucket. For most plans, that means I'd use month two
> daytime minutes, but no per-minute roaming charges.
>
> -mike