Goodbye, Verizon...

In alt.cellular Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, do you like your MIL, or are you hoping the
> conspiracy guy is right?

My MIL rocks! It's my own mother that drives me insane

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Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In alt.cellular Larry Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Steve, I know Sprint recently activated a new tower in Victorville but
> > I'm still waiting for the two planned towers along Hwy 395 North of
> > Adelanto and South of Hwy 58. Once they get that coverage up and
> > running (which I hear is only about 4 or 5 months away) they will have
> > coverage just about everywhere I go.
>
> I wish I had an excuse to venture up there. My sister-in-law and her
> family live right up on the northern end of Adelanto, and she and her
> husband and my wife and about a gazillion other family members work for
> the Adelanto School District, so we're out there a lot, but I really
> have no reason to be north of Adelanto on 395.
>
> I wish I did; I'd be happy to check out the signal on both phones and
> report back to you... but we have to be careful with our gas usage...
>
> > By the way does your Vi660 have the new hardware and software
> > verisons? The original batch had some problems so they revised the
> > hardware on the newere batches.
>
> Uhhhhh. Other than our original Sprint phone, my wife's 8500, this is the
> only Samsung model we've ever owned. I really have no idea, but Phone Info
> says:
>
> PRL 10024
> S: ES.A660 XA28
> H: A660.11
>
> I have no idea what the last two lines mean - is that the info you're looking
> for? My Kyocera phones have always specifically said what the firmware
> revision is...
>
> So far, I love the phone, and have had no problems, but I've not had it
> even for a week yet...

Yes you do have the current versions of both hardware and software.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:04:09 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It's my own mother that drives me insane

Experience tells me that is their job.:-)

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:10:06 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, it'll cost us a grand total of less than $50 - two months worth of
>$15/month airtime plus taxes and fees. But enlighten me: what's the
>difference between using the argument for someone who's already ported,
>and porting and then using the argument? I don't understand.

If you've already ported before your termination date, you need a leg
to stand on as to why you shouldn't have to pay the EFT. The example
case I believe was someone who was very near the end of his contract
and ported before the expiration date. I never recall receiving an
answer as to whether he had paid the last bill by its due date. If he
did, that's where I think he had an argument that he had fulfilled the
requirements of his contract, and therefore owed no EFT. But to
answer your question, in theory, it should make no difference. My
suggestion was based on legal theory only. I've never seen or heard
it argued as an out for the EFT, probably because the porting issue is
so new. Since it's one of those 'I think it will work, but I won't
know until I try it' kind of things, I just wouldn't put myself in the
position of having to make that argument. The other poster had
already ported, so he had nothing to lose by using that argument. If
he had asked before he ported, I would have advised him to wait.

>Besides, I think the argument could very well work anyhow. They are NOT
>losing anything at all if I cancel right now. They will have received
>everything they would have received anyhow even if I did cancel.

That is my point exactly. And after receiving payment for the
remaining contract period, they can shut your service off and know you
won't be incurring any overage, SMS, or other charges. They will have
received their money up front, and will have one less customer putting
a demand on their system. I'm sure no one at VZW put any thought to
someone buying out the rest of their contract, so they never addressed
it in any contract I saw. I don't know about the new ones, though, as
my two year contract was up just last month. I think I'll play a
round of 'Stump the VZW CSR' next time I go in.

"Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Larry Thomas) wrote:
>
> > Steve, I know Sprint recently activated a new tower in Victorville but
> > I'm still waiting for the two planned towers along Hwy 395 North of
> > Adelanto and South of Hwy 58. Once they get that coverage up and
> > running (which I hear is only about 4 or 5 months away) they will have
> > coverage just about everywhere I go.
> >
> > By the way does your Vi660 have the new hardware and software
> > verisons? The original batch had some problems so they revised the
> > hardware on the newere batches.
>
> Buy when will SprintPCS go public with the problems of overheating and
> quick failures of the whole Sanyo line of cell phones?



The latest Sanyo lineup seems to be plagued with poor earpiece sound
quality (possible exception of 4920) and other problems such as the
redialing issue. I haven't heard much about overheating. They've
quietly released new batches with new hardware and software on many of
the newer phones (both Samsung and Sanyo) but most people would have
no way of ever knowing about this. It would be nice if Sprint sent
their customers a notice when this happens but at the same time I
understand why they don't. Hardware cannot be updated like
software/firmware can and the only way to get a phone with new
hardware is by swapping them out or buying a new one. Sending out a
notice about software updates could create an overwhelming rush of
customers to the stores as well as other expenses involved.

So theoretically carrier B could get a lot of "free" numbers and
carrier A will have to buy new numbers. An additional cost of losing
customers.


O/Siris wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>> Here is an interesting question. If someone has a phone from
>>carrier A before the portability was available, and ports the number to
>>carrier B, then cancels the account, does that number go back to the
>>carrier that paid for it, or is it now owned by carrier B?
>
>
> That's an interesting question indeed. I don't know. If I had to
> guess, I'd say it stays with the last carrier to service the number.
> But, as I say, that's a guess.
>
>
>> Is there still the problem where a carrier would 'run out of'
>>numbers and have to buy more? Or does the number pooling fee paid by
>>the carriers to the gobmnt make all numbers available to all carriers
>>now? If so, is all the money paid to buy numbers before just gone?
>>
>
>
> Yes, numbers can run out. And no, the pooling fee isn't for making
> all numbers available. It's another cost recovery fee because the
> FCC stopped allowing carriers to reserve numbers in 10,000 number
> blocks (effectively allowing a carrier to reserve an entire prefix).
> It's now 1,000 at a time. And I'm told that was a pretty major
> change in our accounting systems.
>
>

In alt.cellular Larry Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
> their customers a notice when this happens but at the same time I
> understand why they don't. Hardware cannot be updated like
> software/firmware can and the only way to get a phone with new
> hardware is by swapping them out or buying a new one. Sending out a
> notice about software updates could create an overwhelming rush of
> customers to the stores as well as other expenses involved.

The expense should be the manufacturer's, not the carrier's, as the
manufacturer is the company who built the defective phone. Sprint's a big
carrier - if they have a batch of defective phones they should be putting
pressure on the manufacturer to replace them.

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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yup. I'd probably not use Sprint if I was in NYC, since I've heard
> some horror stories. I know they were having problems in both NYC and
> Chicago for a while. Chicago has supposedly gotten better, but last
> time I was there I carried a Verizon phone.
>

My Brother was just in Chicago last Fall and reported no issues at all.
In fact, I spoke with him (PCS-PCS) for more than 30 minutes while he
was there and noted no problems with the call.

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