Re: Web Browser for a620/vga1000 ? Fox News?

Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> My Sprint PCS phone did Text Messaging, but it was one-way receive.

Yes, most older Sprint phones are one-way SMS capable. That is a good
point. SMS is still text-messaging, two-way or not. I was just pointing
out to Bob that SMS and text messaging refer to the same service, and the
service Sprint is hawking on its website these days is actually the two-
way service.

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"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Bryan <bryanw20@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > went to 3gupload and they have a few "web" browsers, but after
downloading,
> > they don't work on my phone. Is there a web browser for this phone? I'm
> > particularily looking for FoxNews updates.
>
> If the 620 is a Vision phone, it *has* a web browser. Same with the
VGA1000,
> and the VGA1000 is a Video phone, is it not, which means it MUST use
vision.

Yes, it *is* a vison phone, and it has sprints browser, where you can get
stull like cnn, abc news headlines etc. I was looking for a basic browser
that could go to whatever address you type in. I guess most site wouldn't
look right, or maybe even work. I just saw some browsers on 3gupload and
thought this might be an option.

I didn't mean update like have them page me with breaking news headlines or
whatever they might offer, but a website I could browse to at my convience
and read the headlines, and continue on to the story if I wanted. Guess that
would mean Fox News would have to make a PCS compatiable site, right?

Bryan

>
> It's entirely possible that Fox News doesn't support wireless devices.
>
> Does Fox News advertise that you can get their updates via a wireless
device?
>
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"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > My Sprint PCS phone did Text Messaging, but it was one-way receive.
>
> Yes, most older Sprint phones are one-way SMS capable. That is a good
> point. SMS is still text-messaging, two-way or not. I was just pointing
> out to Bob that SMS and text messaging refer to the same service, and the
> service Sprint is hawking on its website these days is actually the two-
> way service.
>

LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome did.

TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...

Bob

Steven J Sobol wrote:
> Bryan <bryanw20@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>went to 3gupload and they have a few "web" browsers, but after downloading,
>>they don't work on my phone. Is there a web browser for this phone? I'm
>>particularily looking for FoxNews updates.
>
>
> If the 620 is a Vision phone, it *has* a web browser. Same with the VGA1000,
> and the VGA1000 is a Video phone, is it not, which means it MUST use vision.

The A620 and the VGA1000 are the same phone. It is a Vision-enabled
camera phone, and is equipped with a web browser.
-mike

Yes, all PCS Vision phones have WAP browsers, not HTML browsers. I
don't know what 3gupload is offering, but here's a link to a company
with an HTML browser. I haven't tried it myself. It used to list
compatibility with the A620, but they've removed it from the list of
compatible phones. I remember reading about some intermittent error
with the A620, but can't find the reference to it now.

http://www.reqwireless.com/webviewer.html


Bryan wrote:

> went to 3gupload and they have a few "web" browsers, but after downloading,
> they don't work on my phone. Is there a web browser for this phone? I'm
> particularily looking for FoxNews updates.
>
> Any one have input on Real one player or 1Ktv? Or anyother means of getting
> Fox News?
>
> Thanks
> Bryan
>
>

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Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

> LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome did.
>
> TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...

Wrong.

First off, I don't give a rat's patootie what Sprint says, the *rest* of
the industry says that "Text Messages" and "SMS" are the same thing. Given
that, I side with the opinion held by the majority of the carriers and other
industry players, as opposed to what Sprint's marketoons want you to think.

Sprint's marketoons are the same losers who, for years, insisted that
"analog" == "roaming" (sorry, that's a flat-out lie).

Second, at this point even *Sprint* is using the two terms interchangeably.

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Bryan <bryanw20@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I didn't mean update like have them page me with breaking news headlines or
> whatever they might offer, but a website I could browse to at my convience
> and read the headlines, and continue on to the story if I wanted. Guess that
> would mean Fox News would have to make a PCS compatiable site, right?

Compatible specifically with Sprint, no. Compatible with the web browsers
built into wireless phones in general, yes. That means a WAP site.

But there's nothing special about Sprint phones in this case - if I create a
site that any wireless browser can interpret and display, my Sprint phone will
automatically be able to display it.


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Text Messaging is one way. E-mail, Short Mail and SMS are two way.

Any time a Sprint PCS phone makes an analog call, it is roaming. That
is absolutely true. The Sprint PCS system is all PCS, and PCS is all
digital. Therefore if a call on a Sprint PCS phone is not digital it is
not on Sprint PCS' system and is roaming.


Steven J Sobol wrote:
> Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome did.
>>
>>TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...
>
>
> Wrong.
>
> First off, I don't give a rat's patootie what Sprint says, the *rest* of
> the industry says that "Text Messages" and "SMS" are the same thing. Given
> that, I side with the opinion held by the majority of the carriers and other
> industry players, as opposed to what Sprint's marketoons want you to think.
>
> Sprint's marketoons are the same losers who, for years, insisted that
> "analog" == "roaming" (sorry, that's a flat-out lie).
>
> Second, at this point even *Sprint* is using the two terms interchangeably.
>

Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Text Messaging is one way

Only according to Sprint, *if* they even use that definition anymore. Sorry.

> Any time a Sprint PCS phone makes an analog call, it is roaming. That
> is absolutely true.

I understand that. Unfortunately, I believe a lot of people think that of
*other* carriers also, and it's not true. We have Sprint to thank for that.
Sprint also continued to claim their call quality was superior long after
other carriers began deploying the same technology they were using. In fact,
I got my first GTE Mobilnet cell phone in 1993, and I remember them launching
CDMA digital in August or September of 1995. Sprint wasn't even doing CDMA
then, and they weren't offering service as Sprint PCS.

We won't even go into detail about the fact that for a LONG time, Sprint
refused to even allow digital roaming on other, compatible networks. So if
you were roaming, you were analog even if you were using Alltel or Verizon.
So of course Joe Sixpack who isn't familiar with the industry is automatically
going to assume those other networks suck.

Sprint has a lot of things going for them, but their marketing department
has traditionally been full of **** - more so than their counterparts at
other cellular carriers (IMHO).


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"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome
did.
> >
> > TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...
>
> Wrong.
>
> First off, I don't give a rat's patootie what Sprint says, the *rest* of
> the industry says that "Text Messages" and "SMS" are the same thing. Given
> that, I side with the opinion held by the majority of the carriers and
other
> industry players, as opposed to what Sprint's marketoons want you to
think.

The issue here Steve is not your opinion as you keep on stating, but what
happens with SPCS, and not with the rest of the industry. I realize I'm
repeating myself, but it's worth saying to you ... once again.

TMs are one way ... Everyday I receive a 3 day weather report from
mobile.msn.com for Charlotte around 7:00 AM that directly downloads to my
phone without going on Vision. I can not reply to these messages. Nor can I
reply, if someone sends me a TM via XXX-XXX-XXXX@messaging.sprintpcs.com .
If they include their telephone number, I can reply that by calling that
number, by clicking on the link, but I can't reply via a TM

Both the OP, yours truly & my family and 90% (my made up number) of the
phones currently on the system also have Shortmail, which is two way IMing,
which necessitates getting on Vision to compose and send the message. I
won't bring up email as that doesn't apply to this particular thread.

For the past 4 or so months, SPCS has changed to the industry standard of
SMS, where one doesn't have to get on Vision to receive or compose a
message.

>
> Sprint's marketoons are the same losers who, for years, insisted that
> "analog" == "roaming" (sorry, that's a flat-out lie).

Until they made roaming agreements with carriers with digital service,
that's all there was for roaming ... Analog ...

>
> Second, at this point even *Sprint* is using the two terms interchangeably
..

Yes, they are, but IMHO, it's for the new industry standard SMS that's
available on the new phones.

Bob

Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Yes, they are, but IMHO, it's for the new industry standard SMS that's
> available on the new phones.

You are correct, of course. Doesn't really negate the point I made (and
I replied about roaming in an earlier post). We could go back and forth
forever on this subject. I don't really see any point in continuing...

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